Who can identify these yellow flowers?

Evert Meulie

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Oct 13, 2003, 4:03:57 AM10/13/03

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Hi everyone!

I've recently come in the possession of a painting that contains a vase
with yellow flowers, and I'd like to know what kind of flowers they are.

If you have a second, please check out
http://www.meulie.net/Fotootjes/2_paintings/painting1 and tell me your
(educated) guess. :)

Regards,
Evert Meulie

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Tina Gibson

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Oct 13, 2003, 8:26:47 AM10/13/03

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kinda hard to tell from the painting (which is very lovely!!) but looks
almost like tansy.

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Evert Meulie esq.

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Oct 13, 2003, 2:17:22 PM10/13/03

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Do you mean these: http://graysharbor.wsu.edu/Weeds/tansy.gif ?

I can see some similarity, I don't think they're the same... The tansy
seems to have its buds closer together than the kind on the
painting...

Thank you for your swift reply though! :)

Any more/other suggestions?

Regards,
Evert Meulie

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Evert Meulie esq.

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Oct 13, 2003, 2:19:12 PM10/13/03

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PS. Click on the image to make it bigger... :)

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Gene Newcomb

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Oct 13, 2003, 3:16:11 PM10/13/03

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If the painter is from the warmer climes, probably an acacia (wattle).

Gene Newcomb

Stewart Robert Hinsley

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Oct 13, 2003, 3:15:39 PM10/13/03

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In article <7856bc24.03101...@posting.google.com>, Evert
Meulie esq. <ev...@meulie.net> writes

>Do you mean these: http://graysharbor.wsu.edu/Weeds/tansy.gif ?
>
>I can see some similarity, I don't think they're the same... The tansy
>seems to have its buds closer together than the kind on the
>painting...
>

Assuming that the painting is accurate, it's not tansy. For a start the
foliage is different.

The gross form of the inflorescence looks similar to that of Buddleia x
weyeriana, but the jizz is wrong for this.

The gross form of the inflorescence again looks similar to that of
Acacia, but the foliage is wrong for this.

I interpret the plant to have capitate clusters of flowers borne at
intervals along leafless flowering branches. I am assuming that the
foliage belongs to the same plant.
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P van Rijckevorsel

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Oct 13, 2003, 3:54:33 PM10/13/03

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Stewart Robert Hinsley <{$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk> schreef

> The gross form of the inflorescence again looks similar to that of
> Acacia, but the foliage is wrong for this.

> I interpret the plant to have capitate clusters of flowers borne at
> intervals along leafless flowering branches. I am assuming that the
> foliage belongs to the same plant.

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My first impression was Acacia, some species of which are cultivated in
fairly temperate regions:

http://www.beyond.fr/flora/mimosa.html

However this would require the foliage to be from a separate plant or the
painter to be unfaithful, neither of which can be precluded
PvR

David Hill

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Oct 13, 2003, 5:51:30 PM10/13/03

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Mimosa

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David Hill

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Oct 13, 2003, 6:24:29 PM10/13/03

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Try http://www.jungleseeds.co.uk/SeedOrders/en-gb/dept_7.html

Acacia Dealbata (Mimosa)

Elizabeth

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Oct 13, 2003, 8:37:12 PM10/13/03

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My first impression, too, was Acacia, Then I thought maybe Podocarpus. Now I
can't decide :-)

elizabeth

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Evert Meulie esq.

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Oct 14, 2003, 2:33:20 AM10/14/03

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The painting is signed with 'Latour'. This makes me believe it's
either an original or a copy of a work by Henri Fantin-Latour (
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/fantin-latour/ ), a French
painter.

Greetings,
Evert Meulie

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Peter Jason

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Oct 14, 2003, 3:07:32 AM10/14/03

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Wattle

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marcel.roche2

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Oct 14, 2003, 4:46:03 AM10/14/03

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Certainly acacia.
Certainly not dealbata, may be retinoides, because leaves
Marcel Roche

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Evert Meulie esq.

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Oct 19, 2003, 12:08:15 PM10/19/03

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You might be right here... It does look quite a bit like the various
images of wattle I have found on the Internet. If only I'd be able to
find the painting in some catalogue, then the 'mystery' would be
solved quickly I'd think...

Regards,
Evert

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David Hill

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Oct 19, 2003, 3:41:11 PM10/19/03

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I did send before saying Mimosa,
You say the painting is French........well for many years the French sent
"Mimosa" to the UK as a cut flower from around February.
The plant in question is Acacia dealbata "Silver Wattle" see
http://www.anbg.gov.au/images/photo_cd/Acacia_1318/dealbata_069.html

P van Rijckevorsel

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Oct 19, 2003, 5:02:01 PM10/19/03

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Well, to keep the record straight: you were the second or third or fourth to
suggest Acacia dealbata, but as has been pointed out several times the
leaves are wrong.

Apparently there are species with "leaves" which fit better, such as the
suggested
(http://www.floracyberia.net/spermatophyta/angiospermae/dicotyledoneae/mimos
aceae/acacia_retinoides.html), but it is not a good fit.

The most likely explanation is that the flowers in the picture are indeed
Acacia dealbata and the foliage is something else, but there is no
reality-check. The flowers are long gone (no DNA-sampling is possible). A
catalogue is not necessarily the answer, given the level of errors commonly
found in catalogues when it comes to such matters.

Getting an approximate date for the painting and comparing this to the
cultivation history of Acacia dealbata and other Acacia species in France
might help considerably.
PvR

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