The 1~10% hollow moon / Brad Guth
BradGuth
planetoid Selene/moon that has a little something hollow to say about
itself;
Gravity Force Inside a Spherical Shell (is always zero)
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/Mechanics/sphshell2.html#wtls
This zero gravity environment of course wouldn't fully apply to our
naked Selene/moon interior unless that hollow was a substantial sphere
at nearly dead center, but none the less it's still worth our
considering the possible implications, and it’s especially what-if
topic worthy when the bulk of lunar mass is clearly being held within
its thick and highly paramagnetic basalt crust, with no obvious
indications of an iron or otherwise dense core.
Natural/geothermal and isotope generated gas bubbles could easily have
created such a geode hollow(s) or even pockets of trapped mineral
brines and perhaps a few as having become crystal lined volumes of
weird geological anomalies representing livable voids deep within the
moon, as well as for the continual tidal pull of Earth’s gravity may
have significantly offset the original soft/molten interior core,
leaving a substantial hollow/caverness void rising towards the
extremely thick backside crust, as well as for the Earth/Selene
lithobraking encounter should have caused something to shift within
this unusual planetoid we call our moon.
First of all, I have never once suggested anything lower mass than
7.35e22 kg (if anything I’ve proposed an extra mass of <262 km worth
of ice for a grand total of 8.5e22 kg), nor have I ever suggested that
our Selene/moon was 90% hollow, nor otherwise have I ever insisted the
interior density below the thick basalt crust being as low as 1 kg/m3
(although the element sodium is kinda minimal density at .97 g/cm3,
not to mention lithium). So don’t get yourselves all defensively
crazy and huffy about any of this.
If the thick and paramagnetic basalt plus mineral saturated crust with
many of those heavier lunar elements (including thorium, uranium,
plutonium and of course radium as supposedly derived from the core of
Earth plus via whatever else as having impacted Earth) are situated or
somehow having been coagulated/solidified near the surface, not to
mention a bazillion naked meteor deposits of carbonado/lonsdaleite and
of course always those much heavier metallic elements including
thorium, iron, nickel, platinum and loads of titanium, plus a little
of whatever else was part of Earth. So, for the purely what-if of
this semi-hollow moon topic, how about our considering a 10% hollow
moon (2.2 billion cubic kilometers worth)?
How many personally safe interior habitats is 2.2e18 m3 actually
worth?
At 1000 m3 per habitat is offering 2.2e12 units. Given a wide
percentage (more than half) for a perfectly rational (meaning
intelligent) infrastructure is still going to offer 1e12 units of 1e3
m3 each.
However, even if we’re talking of a 1% hollow Selene is still offering
an off-world viable habitat that’s worthy of safely hosting 100
billion units, along with 55% as still going for infrastructure.
Seems more than adequate if such a semi-hollow moon were to be
utilized as an off-world shelter or that of an interstellar survival
craft (red supergiant and helium flashover lifeboat), and of course it
gets all the better yet if it should became heavily iced over along
the way.
Along with my LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator and Counter Mass with
the terrific amount of ISS habitat interior) is what makes the to/from
aspects of utilizing our semi-hollow Selene/moon rather simple and
energy efficient, though most likely as owned and operated by China
and India (so expect to pay a hefty toll).
> Father Haskell:
> How will you feed all 100 billion of those units?
Chinese and India takeout from their LSE-CM/ISS (Selene L1) outpost/
gateway, and otherwise direct fly-by-rocket shipments of fish and rice
via North Korea, and perhaps fresh fruit from Cuba (via Guantanamo
Space Port).
As I'd said, roughly 55% as the lunar community infrastructure should
provide enough volume as industrial greenhouse and accommodating
whatever assortments of chickens, turkeys and pigs. You know, Earth
isn't ever going to be very far away, and even I can think of all
kinds of ways for a continuous supply of just about anything, in
exchange for He3 and any number of other precious elements that would
be mostly robotic mined, processed and efficiently exported to Earth,
or effectively stored for future needs.
Obviously we'd need to accommodate at most fewer than 10 billion such
units as our lunar interior habitats, thereby leaving 95% available as
infrastructure for working within this 1% hollow moon.
Remember, if most everyone is living inside the moon, Eden/Earth
stands a darn good chance of once again becoming a thriving plant and
animal sanctuary that's nearly devoid of humans and their industrial
scale polluting. (perhaps at most 1% stays with Earth in order to
repair/salvage the frail environment and help feed the other 99% of
folks living within the moon, and the subsequent visiting of Earth by
these others would become a highly restricted privilege).
However, if our continuing recession turns into WWIII, that gets all-
out and downright nuclear dirty, plus otherwise chemical and
biologically lethal, there may be few if any safe places on Earth
worth risking further genetic mutations to your frail DNA.
Trust me, I have a reasonably failsafe plan. It's rather complex and
certainly not perfect, but at least it's offering a whole lot better
constructive option than most any other plan of salvaging humanity
that’s designed mostly to benefit only the rich and powerful surviving
off-world, while the rest of us village idiots get to tough it out and
otherwise end up paying for everything that primarily benefits these
rich and powerful individuals (including fighting their wars).
Btw; If a black hole were merely that of an event horizon shell of
whatever horrific mass and density (say a thick swarm of tightly
packed electrons orbiting this hollow void or perhaps sustaining a
small core of positron antimatter) as surrounded by whatever makes you
a happy camper:
Once again, a little physics food for thought: The gravity force
inside a spherical shell is always zero, that is unless it has some
kind of an extremely massive core that’s magnetically centered or
somehow electrostatic isolated within this otherwise hollow sphere.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/Mechanics/sphshell2.html#wtls
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
BradGuth
If we could manage to access even 1% of the 1% that's likely hollow,
our initial lunar failsafe habitat and logistics depot would be more
than fulfilled. However, going by way of old NASA seismic data, of
when those 14 tonne upper Saturn stages impacted and having indicated
something weird, as suggesting more than 10% hollow, because solid and
fully compacted forms of geology that’s gravity and vacuum packed
simply doesn't ring like a bell unless that extremely tough outer
crust is hiding an unusually low density interior, and/or including a
few of those potential geode voids that I keep suggesting should
exist.
Of course our public funded wizards at NASA most likely by now taped
over that kind of seismic data with those valuable episodes of "I Love
Lucy".
There's still no peer replicated objective proof that Eden/Earth has
always had such a moon, or that our moon isn't semi-hollow, but
there's certainly every deductive good enough reasons to believe that
it’s of a more recent moon and at least partially enough hollow to
count, and otherwise I've never stipulated as to the specific amount
or locations of such pockets or voids, but then our DARPA and NASA has
never objectively proven their Apollo missions, and our spendy LRO
mission is thus far sharing perhaps at best 0.1% of its remote
science. Go figure as to why such public funded science is always so
insider moderated, need-to-know or being kept taboo/nondisclosure
rated.
For all we know, portions of our Selene/moon interior are in fact
hollow (as even our NASA lunar seismic research has that likelihood
nailed). There’s also no indications of any significant iron, thorium
or other heavy element saturated core, and if anything the interior
mass of a relatively low average density has been significantly offset/
pulled towards Earth (especially while having to deal with the much
thicker backside crust), improving the odds of having a backside
underground matrix of geode hollows, if not that offering a massively
cavernous interior to work with, as protected under such a thick and
mineral saturated crust of mostly basalt (<100 km thick). In other
words, this moon of ours is one unusual but tough cookie.
If humanity stays on this auto-destruct, environmentally unfriendly,
anti-green and anti-biodiversity policy (exterminating most everything
in sight), and otherwise remains politically passive/dumbfounded as
well as forever stuck in faith-based denial upon denial to boot,
eventually we may have few options but to consider abandoning ship (so
to speak), and having our semi-hollow Selene/moon as our extremely
robust lifeboat may not be as far fetched as one might care to think.
For the honest geology and/or planetology argument sake of showing how
easily a slight/minor shift in average density gives us that 1% hollow
moon of 7.345e22 kg, the following what-if should more than suffice.
Paramagnetic basalt density via cobalt, iron, thorium, uranium, radium
and nickel can easily become worth <5g/cm3, as opposed to nearly pure
terrestrial basalt >2.7 g/cm3. Using an average density of 3.38 g/cm3
seems perfectly reasonable, as well as the average density of 3.71 g/
cm3 isn’t entirely out of line, especially when dealing with such an
unusually thick and heavy mineral saturated basalt crust.
Radius
1738.0 km = 2.1991e19 m3
869.0 km = 2.7488e18 m3
434.5 km = 3.4360e17 m3
374.45 km = 2.1992e17 m3 (1% volume)
173.8 km = 2.1991e+16 m3 (.1% volume)
At zero hollow, solid volume : 2.199e19 & 3.34e3 kg/m3 = 7.345e22 kg
At 1% hollow, the solid volume = 2.177e19 m3 x 3.38e3 = 7.336e22 kg
* 10% hollow, solid volume offers 1.979e19 m3 x 3.71e3 = 7.343e22 kg
So, which is it? (or is it worth something more than 10% hollow?)
As expected, this topic has certainly brought out all the brown-nosed
clowns that Usenet/newsgroups and Google Groups can muster. Too bad
that honest physics and the best available science can't be given a
fair shot at much of anything these fays without our having to deal
with so many of these mainstream clowns, spooks and moles as having
such career invested and ulterior motives.
You'd think a 1% hollow moon would actually become a good thing, and a
10% hollow moon is certainly a whole lot better. At least on Earth
there are any number of natural and more than a few artificial
cavernous hollows, and as Earth cools, further solidifies and we keep
hard-rock mining plus excavating for valuable minerals as well as
sucking aquifers dry, there should become more (not less).
On average, that extremely tough and mineral saturated basalt crust of
our Selene/moon is at least five to six times thicker than what Eden/
Earth has to work with, and that's what I mean by saying it's one
tough cookie. However, its relatively soft or low density interior is
clearly offset, as pulled towards Earth by more than enough to
compensate for that much thicker mascon worth of its backside crust.
If nothing else, below that tough crust should be relatively cozy and
easy digging for a mostly robotic tunnel boring machine and its
conveyer train of mineral excavating technology.
http://www.niagarafrontier.com/tunnel.html
http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/future/undergraduate/geotechnical.shtml
http://redhawk500.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/now-for-some-really-heavy-stuff-part-one-near-miss/
We should be so lucky to find underground water within Selene, as that
would be too much to ask for. Fortunately, getting terrestrial salt
water to our moon shouldn’t be all that difficult, or spendy since
there’s no great demand for the speed of delivery.
BradGuth
a ball via gravity and thereby made solid and progressively more dense
to its very core, is perhaps what made the first dozen (US and USSR)
probes of orbital, impactors and hard landers somewhat trial and
error, or rather continually off-course and sort of hit and miss.
Now, I wouldn’t go so far as to suggest that our Selene/moon was ever
something artificially created, however the idea of there being a
significant portion (>1%) as hollow seems to fit the best available
science rather nicely, if not conservatively.
http://keelynet.com/unclass/luna.htm
“Lunar probes from both the United States and the Soviet Union were
more succesful after this. This cannot most likely be attributed to
some sudden advance in the quality of the hardware or telemetry
methods of both space programs, whereas it is much more likely to be a
result of recalculation of the lunar gravitational gradient.“
“The lunar orbiting space missions demonstrated even more evidence
that the moon might not be a solid homogenous rock throughout it's
volume.“
If there was ever anything watery/brine, mud like fluid or compressed
gaseous about the interior of that physically dark orb of such thick
crust that’s populated by such unusual surface mascons, whereas having
been existing within such a vacuum and having been so nicely freeze
dried by night and obviously illuminated and thus roasted to death by
day would have likely sucked her dry and evaporated anything that
wasn’t 100% sealed off by solid basalt or the likes of crystal
fortified geode pockets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geode
http://www.whitebearenergies.net/crystals/cave.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/787776.stm
http://www.crystalinks.com/mexicocrystals.html
Such 100% sealed geode pockets or voids of once hosting fluids or
compressed gasses could still to some extent exist, but other than
discovered via random dumb luck we’ll likely need 3D seismic mapping
in order to find them. However, existing orbital science plus laser
and radar altimeter data that should be 100% public accessible, will
have by now indirectly mapped our Selene/moon semi-hollow interior to
within a resolution >10 km (possibly as good as 1 km resolution might
be interpreted).
BradGuth
Hollow moon related and in further support of one orb worth of
interactive gravity keeping another nearby orb of a mostly fluid mass
a little extra physically modulated and thereby kept extra toasty from
the inside out:
If the unusual fluid mascon worth of the Jupiter atmosphere can manage
to keep the innards of the fully tidal locked Io more than smoking hot
and bothered, imagine what our Selene/moon with its far better (moon :
planet) mass ratio and subsequent 2e20 N/sec (55.5e12 kw.hr if you
like) of what its tidal binding force is doing mostly to us.
“Io is a truly nightmarish hell of a moon and has about several
hundred volcanoes. It is the second hottest object in the Solar System
after the Sun and as an added bonus, the sulphuric lava is hundreds of
degrees hotter than the lava on Earth.”
“The force behind Io's phenomenal heat is the gravity of Jupiter and
the other large moons. This heats up the interior of Io and causes
rock to liquify.”
In exchange for having been keeping Eden/Earth physically modulated
and thus extra hot, there’s a darn good chance this companion/binary
planet Selene/moon of ours has become semi-hollow (mostly under/within
its extremely robust far-side interior), whereas it’s worth
considering that perhaps <10% hollow shouldn’t be all that unexpected.
Hagar
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3ea7f198-1cec-4074...@i8g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
Here�s yet another edited food for thought topic, about our local
planetoid Selene/moon that has a little something hollow to say about
itself;
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Say GuthBall, you could run all the needed calculations using your
head as a model. It is 1 - 10% hollow. Now apply all the parameters,
perform your calculations and then multiply the result by the Moon/your head
ratio. I bet the result is "Zero" every time.
BradGuth
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
A dysfunctional 5th grader could have offered a better reply to this
topic. Are you suggesting that you're not even that good?
Earth is perhaps 0.1% hollow, and if Yellowstone blows its lid is
exactly what could easily exceed that mark.
Removing all fluids of water, brines, muds, oil and gasses from within
Earth is what I'm talking about, whereas our Selene/moon should be at
least somewhat similar if not a whole lot more so hollow because of
it's unusually thick and extra dense crust that's surrounding the
relatively low mass interior, that's on average 5 fold greater than
Earth has to work with. For all we know <10% of the lunar mass is
represented by that robust crust and surface deposits.
BradGuth
I’ve recently had to exclude using this hot link / Sakib Rasool
http://f r e e w e b s.com/starsurf/jupiter.htm
Because whenever included it caused my topic or whatever reply to be
rejected. Did something about this Starsurfing from downunder, Asia
or middle Eastern manage to break wind, or what?
This seems entirely odd, because this one of Jupiter and other pages
are truly quite informative, and credit is always given as to the
original source of context. Even the page of hot links are as equally
informative, decently entertaining and exceptionally harmless. So,
what the hell gives?
http://rtoddking.com/chinawin2009_hb_if.htm
http://rtoddking.com/chinawin2009_hb_sf.htm
BradGuth
I kid you not. That thick and mineral saturated crust that's magnetic
and/or paramagnetic could actually represent 10% of the lunar mass.
BradGuth
I still kid you not. That extremely thick and heavy mineral saturated
crust that's extensively mascon populated, as well as magnetic and/or
paramagnetic could actually represent 10% of the lunar mass. Even a
dysfunctional 5th grader should appreciate what this means.
The 1%<10% hollow and/or extremely low density interior of our Selene/
moon is actually a good thing, even if only China and India develop
such for their own good.
BradGuth
Apparently any sort of hollow moon is taboo/nondisclosure rated, as ir
utilizing Selene L1 because the geology Gods have so stipulated.
ASTRONOMY September 2009 (Vol. 37 Issue 9), page 39
Why is it that we keep getting these intentionally pastel images, of
such limited DR(dynamic range), in that my old cell-phone camera has
better DR and even better color/hue range including purple and violet
sensitivity?
It seems LROC has even worse DR, and where exactly are those color/hue
saturated images of the mineral fluorescence and those of SAR, X-ray
plus gamma spectrometry of our physically dark Selene/moon?
When are we ever going to start getting our public funded moneys
worth?
BradGuth
Where is the mainstream objective or even subjective evidence that our
Selene/moon is not semi-hollow?
~ BG
BCC Meteorites
Listen here you freak. There is not one scintilla of evidence the Moon
is one percent or any percent hollow. Yes it has lots of depressions
and even canyons but these are not hollow in any sense of the word.
You are having a conversation with yourself and please come to your
senses. What do you know about compression and gravity? How do you
know it was not compressed as a result of gravity? It was a
combination of gravity, internal geological processes and the fact
that outer space has 12-14 atmospheres of vacuum pressure. Do you
understand what that means. You have no clue how the Moon formed and
you are trying to complicate a simple process, like a few scientists
still to this day advance the unlikely notion that the Moon was a
remnant of a collision with a solid mars sized body. The evidence does
not show that nor is the Moon hollow in any sense of the word. You're
complicating simple matters and getting lost in the translation. Take
a vacation.
Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse
www.bccmeteorites.com
BradGuth
Your subjective and lack of any deductive interpretation is noted, as
is your dumbfounded mindset.
Apparently 0.1% of the public funded science is good enough for the
likes of yourself, whereas I'd like to review the other 99.9% that
we've paid for.
It's because of silly brown-nosed folks like yourself that LUNAR-A
never got deployed, and other highly economical surface probe
deployments never took place. It's also because of you that what
little science data we have is either extensively inaccessible, lost
or destroyed.
Do you have seismic 3D mapping of our moon's interior, or are you just
blowing it out your naysay ass?
BradGuth
Where is your objective science that's suggesting our Selene/moon is
traditionally solid to its core?
The lunar surface is by far the most mascon populated surface
discovered to date. If it were as uniformly compression solid and so
otherwise nicely solidified as you say, then why were the first dozen
US/USSR missions so dismal?
~ BG
BradGuth
Speaking about moon and planet anomalies (including weird monoliths)
that could somehow benefit us in more ways than just nifty eyecandy.
The “Stepping Stone To Mars” article by James Oberg in DISCOVER
magazine is as good as any.
Contributed from our infomercial spewing Pat Flannery:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2572537/Mars-monument-proof-of-life.html
Monolith on Phobos also?
Buzz thinks so.
Here's a photo of it:
http://palermoproject.com/Mars_Anomalies/PhobosAnomalies1.html
... bit round for a monolith. Looks more like a rock that was in the
same orbit as Phobos and settled onto its surface.
But nope, it is a monolith:
http://palermoproject.com/Mars_Anomalies/PhobosAnomalies2.html
It's crap like this that makes you really appreciate Neal Armstrong
keeping his mouth shut, unlike the Buzzer.
“crap like this” says it all about the bipolar mindset of our Pat
Flannery.
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Phobos, the odd little captured and thoroughly pulverized moon of Mars
that’s of such low average density and yet “nearly dark as coal” (at
roughly an albedo of 7%, is just a reflective/albedo rating of being
4% less reflective than our much odder Selene/noon at 11%). Depending
on illumination angle, surface coarseness or nearly soot like dusty
crystallization and of course water and various mineral composition,
terrestrial coal offers a range of 0.05 to 0.15 (5%<15%). Also, it
seems with the terrific dynamic range of the modern CCD camera can
offer the deductive eyecandy of mineral fluorescence, of which our
physically dark moon has even more of such complex minerals and
collected deposits to offer. However, add in the near 50 story item
of a vertical rectangular anomaly that’s nicely parked on Phobos
(possibly deployed from that extremely long and narrow ET probe that
the Russian Phobos-II mission encountered), and you got yourself a
very interesting rock of an extremely dusty and otherwise low density
substance of darn little gravity (minimal to/from delta-V).
Of course our 1%<10% semi-hollow Selene/moon is so much better yet,
and the Selene L1 (accommodating my LSE-CM/ISS) offers an ideal to/
from delta-V of zero. The same applies for my POOF City at Venus L2
that offers yet another near zero delta-V for accommodating our Venus
Gateway/oasis and/or staging depot..
BradGuth
If a volume of primordial gas were to be trapped or sealed under a 50+
km worth of a fully solidified crust of heavy mineral saturated
basalt, plus other gasses were being continually generated by the
ongoing thermal and radiation decay, as such might suggest a viable
method for our Selene/moon having created substantial geode pockets of
gaseous hollows and/or fluid filled formations.
BradGuth
If a volume of primordial gas were to become trapped or sealed under a
50+ km thickness of a fully solidified crust of such a heavy mineral
saturated basalt, plus other gasses were being continually generated
by the ongoing thermal and radiation decay process, as such might
reasonably suggest a viable method for our Selene/moon having created
substantial geode pockets of gaseous hollows and/or fluid filled
formations.
Earth is perhaps 0.1% hollow, and if Yellowstone blows its lid is
exactly what could easily help exceed that mark. Between Krakatoa and
Yellowstone, if those two geothermal mega litho-sphere vents manage to
blow their gasket at the same time is when we’re in deep trouble with
having to deal with that Warhol “lake of fire”, or perhaps there will
be two lakes of fire (actually the undersea volcanic trauma and
subsequent magma is likely a whole lot worse yet). But at least we
can forget about whatever cosmic fireballs and asteroid encounters for
a while, because even that of encountering a 10 km asteroid of mostly
iron and thorium isn’t going to be all that significant unless it’s a
highly suicidal retrograde and thereby crust penetrating impactor, or
obviously something as big as another icy Selene (<8.5e22 kg) as for
glancing off from the rear would get our attention.
Apparently my tired old idea of relocating our Selene/moon out to
Earth L1 is another one of those too little too late sort of things.
Sorry about that, and just forget all about where all of that 2e20 N/
sec of orbital mechanics and tidal force is going or otherwise doing
to mother Earth.
Removing all fluids of water, brines, muds, oils and of course pockets/
layers of gasses from within Earth (excluding active lava because it’s
simply too damn hot) is what I'm talking about, whereas our Selene/
moon should be at least somewhat similar if not a whole lot more so
hollow because of it's unusually thick and extra dense crust that's
surrounding the relatively low mass interior, whereas that's on
average offering a 5 fold greater crust thickness than Earth has to
work with. For all we know <10% of the lunar mass is represented by
that thick and extremely robust crust, and otherwise by those uneven
surface mascon considerations, plus those countless deposits that made
those impressive craters and thereby whatever landings and even nearby
orbital considerations extremely complex.
Because that unusual moon of ours wasn’t traditionally compressed into
a uniform ball via gravity and thereby made solid and progressively
more dense to its very core, is perhaps what made the first dozen (US
and USSR) probes of orbital, impactors and hard landers somewhat trial
and error, or rather continually off-course and sort of hit and miss.
Now, I wouldn’t go so far as to suggest that our Selene/moon was ever
something artificially created, however the idea of there being a
significant portion (>1%) as hollow seems to fit within the best
available science rather nicely, if not conservatively.
http://keelynet.com/unclass/luna.htm
“Lunar probes from both the United States and the Soviet Union were
more succesful after this. This cannot most likely be attributed to
some sudden advance in the quality of the hardware or telemetry
methods of both space programs, whereas it is much more likely to be a
result of recalculation of the lunar gravitational gradient.“
“The lunar orbiting space missions demonstrated even more evidence
that the moon might not be a solid homogenous rock throughout it's
volume.“
If there was ever anything watery/brine, mud like fluid or compressed
gaseous about the interior of that physically dark orb of such thick
crust, that’s populated by such unusual surface mascons, whereas
having been existing within such a vacuum and having been so nicely
freeze dried by night and obviously illuminated and thus roasted to
death by day would have likely sucked her dry, and evaporated most
anything that wasn’t 100% sealed off by solid basalt or the likes of
some crystal fortified geode pockets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geode
http://www.whitebearenergies.net/crystals/cave.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/787776.stm
http://www.crystalinks.com/mexicocrystals.html
Such 100% sealed geode pockets or voids of once hosting fluids, muds
or compressed gasses could still to some extent exist, but other than
discovered via random dumb luck we’ll likely need 3D seismic mapping
in order to find them. However, existing orbital science plus laser
and radar altimeter data that should be 100% public accessible, will
have by now indirectly mapped our Selene/moon semi-hollow interior to
within a resolution >10 km (possibly as good as 1 km resolution as
might be interpreted via such remote science).
I seriously kid you not. That thick and heavy mineral saturated crust
that's magnetic and/or nicely paramagnetic could actually represent
10% of the lunar mass, and the lower density core mass (as possibly
including sodium) has been clearly offset/pulled towards Earth, which
should make for any 50 km altitude of orbital mapping more than a bit
compromised as well as inefficient.
BradGuth
~ BG
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1203028/Will-Krakat...
BradGuth
That moon of ours isn't a solid rock. At best it's a mineral
saturated basalt crust surrounding a relatively low density interior.
BradGuth
Too bad we still do not have any platform of instruments (including
astronomy and laser cannons) as interactively parked within our
efficient and otherwise ideal Earth-moon L1 (aka Selene L1).
According to our NASA and Apollo wizards, whereas within that gravity
nullified and subsequent maximum vacuum (<3e-21 bar) area of Selene
L1, and for some distance to/from, isn’t the least bit radiation testy
of anything from IR to gamma, in fact it’s supposedly extremely cold
according to their Apollo 13 documentation of having nearly frozen to
death.
Instead it’s nearly 50 years of mostly LEO stuff and only a relatively
few missions outside of that, and finally we have LCROSS that “detects
life on Earth!” (and to think that we actually pay our NASA and their
public funded teams of associated wizards for this kind of instrument
calibration analogy, that’s already as good or better accomplished by
at least a dozen previously accomplished and spendy missions that were
of all things also public funded). Of course our spendy OCO mission
that was recently foiled by Big Energy, disabled just so that we can
not so easily quantify and otherwise zero in on each of the natural
and artificial sources of such terrestrial vapors, gasses and thermal
considerations.
I find it more than a little odd that the our spendy and extremely
belated LRO/LCROSS combined mission finds that Earth via their onboard
spectrometry (aka duh-101 spectrometer) as having identified
terrestrial water and other elements of life (as yet another NASA
infomercial published hype along with their usual nifty eyecandy, all
at public expense) , and yet nearby Venus with thousands of acidic h2o
teratonnes (<500 teratonnes worth of pure h2o none the less) still
doesn't matter. Are they actually still thinking those Venus clouds
are made entirely of toxic sulphur dust?
The latest good science of Venus being by way of ESA’s Venus EXPRESS,
and before that was our Magellan that is still being mainstream
ignored and/or banished (interpreted as only that of a hellish world
with no redeeming qualities or value, not even for technologically
advanced ETs)
This coming lunar impact and remote extracted seismology and
spectrometry via LCROSS and whatever else has also been accomplished
many previous times, each of which discovering essentially zero ppb
worth of freed h2o atoms (other than vaporized out of the solid crust/
bedrock), perhaps mostly because we can’t hardly penetrate deep enough
into that tough mineral saturated basalt crust that’s covering such an
unusually low density and/or semi-hollow interior. However, previous
impactors of 14 tonnes each via those Apollo upper stage rockets
should have more than accomplished the trick as of nearly 40 years
ago, not to mention many other lunar impactors (artificial as well as
natural) that have been monitored ever since.
BradGuth
So what if our moon is already hollow enough for some of us to safely
survive within?
What's the big deal about keeping such lunar geology a big dark and
scary secret?
The same can be said of its L1; why all the mainstream obfuscation?
~ BG
BradGuth
This topic should have been a no-brainer, and yet it's like having to
pull teeth without novocaine.
Double-A
If only your theory had some teeth.
Double-A
BradGuth
If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, but otherwise yes,
some geophysical teeth as to why our moon has such an unusually low
density interior that's clearly offset towards us would also be nice.
The LUNAR-A mission was supposed to give us a 3D interior look-see,
but of course that never happened.
~ BG
hanson
>
On Aug 13, 12:54 pm, "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 13, 12:41 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 7:56 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 12, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jul 28, 5:16 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
thing.... thru the remaining 10% of his cavitated hollow teeth
which turned him into a raving lunatic and so he wrote:
>
Brad wrote:
If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
but of course that never happened.
>
Brad, you poor sod, when and if Obama care will happen &
you will get some dentures then your Selenic nightmares
will end. Keep the faith, baby, as long as it's not faith-based.
Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
>
Thansk for the laugh guy... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
BradGuth
> ------- WHOAAAAahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ----------
>
> > > On Aug 13, 7:56 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Aug 12, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 28, 5:16 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
>
> ... was profusely talking to himself, for weeks, about the same
> thing.... thru the remaining 10% of his cavitated hollow teeth
> which turned him into a raving lunatic and so he wrote:
>
> Brad wrote:
>
> If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
> but of course that never happened.
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> Brad, you poor sod, when and if Obama care will happen &
> you will get some dentures then your Selenic nightmares
> will end. Keep the faith, baby, as long as it's not faith-based.
> Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
> Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
>
> Thansk for the laugh guy... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
Your intellectual fornication is noted, and republican none the less.
~ BG
hanson
--- My good friend Brad wants to see his before & after again ---
>
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 13, 3:58 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
On Aug 13, 12:54 pm, "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 13, 12:41 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 13, 7:56 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Aug 12, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 28, 5:16 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
... was profusely talking to himself, for weeks, about the same
thing.... thru the remaining 10% of his cavitated hollow teeth
which turned him into a raving lunatic and so he wrote:
>
Brad wrote:
If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
but of course that never happened.
>
hanson wrote:
Brad, you poor sod, when and if Obama care will happen &
you will get some dentures then your Selenic nightmares
will end. Keep the faith, baby, as long as it's not faith-based.
Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
>
Brad wrote:
Your intellectual fornication is noted, and republican none the less.
>
C'mon dude, you really wanna keep on looking like
that: <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9> and keep on with the
complaining like you do?... To boot, Brad, why are you
so fucking mean, when I just did you the enormous favor
of having put your lunatic tripe back on top of the "stack".
>
AFA as that "republican" put-down by you is concerned
be advised that hanson is not a party member, faith-based
or otherwise. Hanson travels alone, hanson makes his own
music, & hanson marches to his own drum beat... ahaha...
ahahahaha... ahahanson
BradGuth
>
> C'mon dude, you really wanna keep on looking like
> that: <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9> and keep on with the
> complaining like you do?... To boot, Brad, why are you
> so fucking mean, when I just did you the enormous favor
> of having put your lunatic tripe back on top of the "stack".
>
> AFA as that "republican" put-down by you is concerned
> be advised that hanson is not a party member, faith-based
> or otherwise. Hanson travels alone, hanson makes his own
> music, & hanson marches to his own drum beat... ahaha...
> ahahahaha... ahahanson
So, you still got nothing for this topic. But then, do you ever have
anything of value?
btw, your friend and mentor MICHAEL SAVAGE (aka the racist republican)
is banned from England and a few other nations because he is an
extremely hateful and revengeful Jewish warlord sleeper-cell of one.
Perhaps Henry Kissinger can finally retire.
~ BG
BradGuth
we outsiders speak if doing anything with our moon or that of its L1.
At the same time, notice how they promptly send in those brown-nosed
clowns in order to topic/author stalk, as to rally their species up to
defending whatever others of their own kind get to say or do, no
matters how intentionally racist, bigoted, arrogant or dishonest
(obfuscation applied to their black heart's content). It's seems
negative consequences and remorse are simply not any part of that
kosher faith that has so much disregard for others as well as our
frail environment.
Perhaps this Selene/moon thing, or that of utilizing it's L1 for lunar
as well as terrestrial and astronomy applications (especially
including the zero delta-V aspects of exploring off-world places) is
just a little too gosh darn reveling as to what a true faith-based and
otherwise open mindset analogy might otherwise extrapolate.
hanson
>
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> cranked himself while
he weaseled and is desperately again in severe need to be
administered to by "hanson" <han...@quick.net> who wrote:
>
hanson reposted what embarrassed Brad had snipped:
--- My good friend Brad wants to see his before & after again ---
>
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 13, 12:54 pm, "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 13, 12:41 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 13, 7:56 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Aug 12, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
thru the remaining 10% of his cavitated hollow teeth
which turned him into a raving lunatic and so he wrote:
>
Brad wrote:
If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
but of course that never happened.
>
hanson wrote:
Brad, you poor sod, when and if Obama care will happen &
you will get some dentures then your Selenic nightmares
will end. Keep the faith, baby, as long as it's not faith-based.
Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
Thanks for the laughs, guy... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
>
Brad wrote:
Your intellectual fornication is noted, and republican none the less.
>
C'mon dude, you really wanna keep on looking like
that: <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9> and keep on with the
complaining like you do?... To boot, Brad, why are you
so fucking mean, when I just did you the enormous favor
of having put your lunatic tripe back on top of the "stack".
>
AFA as that "republican" put-down by you is concerned
be advised that hanson is not a party member, faith-based
or otherwise. Hanson travels alone, hanson makes his own
music, & hanson marches to his own drum beat... ahaha...
ahahahaha... ahahanson
>
So, you still got nothing for this topic. But then, do you ever
have anything of value?
>
Well, Brad, YOUR topic was (see above): "If only I had some
teeth..."... on which I gave you valuable information for your
sorry condition, but apparently you blew that in the wind for
the sake of your fanatical partisan politics.. and you prefer
to stay looking like this: <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
>
Brad wrote:
btw, your friend and mentor MICHAEL SAVAGE (aka the
racist republican) is banned from England and a few other
nations because he is an extremely hateful and revengeful
Jewish warlord sleeper-cell of one.
Perhaps Henry Kissinger can finally retire.
>
So Brad, in your embarrassment you decided to make a
quick-switch-topic-change & attribute to me a "friend" whom
I have never heard of. Well, what did that MICHAEL SAVAGE
do to you, that YOU bring him up?.... ahahahaha....
>
AFA, kike Henry Kissinger, who "negotiated" to lose the Vietnam
War for the USA, was boozing & fucking with the yentls in
Hollywood, while our young men died in vain over there .... and
...still Kissinger is around giving foreign policy advice (1) to the
Obama Admin for the benefit of the Zios & Israel. So, what makes
you think that he will retire?... Henry is still in the news.
>
But, Brad, due to your fanaticism you got the underlaying
subliminal tone of the game wrong: Whitey is setting up the
Jews to take the blame: .. GW Bush got goaded into Iraq
by the Jewish Neocons. Bush retaliated and nominated DHS
Michael Chertoff to head this extremely unpopular program (2).
>
Obama, more clever than GWB, hedged against failures and
fuck-ups,... to lay potential blame.... by having selected Israeli
born, dual citizen Emanuel Rham as Chief of Staff (3), and
Obama has Ezekiel Rham, (the grandma-plug-puller originator)
as his advisor for the Health Care Reform (4) effort...& furthermore
Obama instated Kenneth Feinberg as Bonus Czar to fuck with the
Wallstreet crowd (5)... and these are just a few (1-5) examples
of a whole slew of other such apps... all designed and set up
===== to generate and increase Anti-Semitism...=====
>
.... and the effects of that unwritten policy can be seen by the
of the bloggers, left & right, & in the Usenet posting like yours
.... while the still loud, but increasingly discounted noise by the
jerUSAlem cockroach press and media is reflected in the
posts, like Perkinsky's who has been brain washed to believe
that ------ JEWISH SHIT DON'T STINK --- & where he & some
other feeble minded fools do still deny, apologize, defend,
and promote any and all Jewish criminality... with the result
that unknowingly, these kikes & their goyim-serfs do increase
and foster Anti-Semitism.... as is clearly evident even in your
posts when you do waffle, Brad, on the 10% hollow side of
the moon.... ahahahaha....
>
So, Brad, you can see, everything that is so heavily trolled by
yourself is firmly *con*trolled by the ones who roll in the right
circles, wherein you still are neither trolling & much less rolling in...
>
Hell, you haven't even managed to be banned by google's
kikes, ahahahaha... That is how ineffective your are.... BUT,
Thanks for the laughs, Brad.... ahahahahahanson
BradGuth
> ------- WHOAAAAahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ----------
>
> he weaseled and is desperately again in severe need to be
> administered to by "hanson" <han...@quick.net> who wrote:
>
> hanson reposted what embarrassed Brad had snipped:
> --- My good friend Brad wants to see his before & after again ---
>
So, other than your usual brown-nosed flatulence, you've still got
nothing to offer of any value. Figures, doesn't it, and to think
you're not even the least bit funny, though pathetic you've got
nailed.
~ BG
BradGuth
Notice how these public funded brown-nosed clowns and/or pretend-
atheists as official spooks and moles like "hanson" keep responding
without ever contributing anything of any topic value. Notice how
they only do this kind of tactic upon topics and authors that
represent a clear threat to their cartel/cabal closed policy and
mindset.
hanson
BradGuth
Notice how these public funded brown-nosed clowns and/or pretend-
atheists as official usenet/newsgroup spooks and moles like our
"hanson" keep responding without their ever contributing anything of
topic value. Also notice how they only do this kind of public media
damage-control tactic as focused upon the sorts of topics and authors
that represent a clear threat to their cartel/cabal closed policy and
kosher mindset of global domination.
hanson
Brad Guth wrote: Brad_Guth wrote: Brad.Guth wrote: BradGuth wrote:
BG / �Guth Usenet: "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com>, the Faith-
based Pinko-Green Narcissist and L1 Fanatic wants to be on top
of the "stack" and burn brightly: -- <http://tinyurl.com/o59txw > --
ahahahaha...
>
Brad wrote:
If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
but of course that never happened.
>
BradGuth
> -------- WOAAAAHahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ----------
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/o59txw>
As per usual, it seems lord, spook/mole "hanson" has absolutely
nothing topic constructive to offer. But then what should a
dysfunctional 4th grader and eventual adult pervert have to offer?
~ BG
BradGuth
Our brain-dead lovechild of Deco and Levy, "hanson" is certainly
providing proof positive that I'm right. Notice how my topics cause
their Zionist/Nazi mindset to quiver and spazzem. It seems no one
else can make these brown-nosed clowns dance about like I can do.
~ BG
hanson
Brad, I'm sorry that I forget to give you credit for the most profound
statement that you ever uttered in your obese narcissism. See ###:::...
>
Brad Guth wrote: Brad_Guth wrote: Brad.Guth wrote: BradGuth wrote:
BG / �Guth Usenet: "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com>, the Faith-
based Pinko-Green Narcissist and L1 Fanatic wants to be on top
of the "stack" and burn brightly: -- <http://tinyurl.com/o59txw > --
ahahahaha...
>>
Brad wrote:
If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
but of course that never happened.
>
Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
>
WOAAAAHahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha.. ahahanson
hanson
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote... that Brad is
always so upset and bothered ... no matters how intentionally
racist, bigoted, arrogant or dishonest his black heart is.
It seems negative consequences and remorse are simply not
any part of Brad's kosher faith that has so much disregard for
others as well as our frail environment.
>
hanson wrote:
Brad, I'm sorry that I forget to give you credit for the most profound
>
Brad Guth wrote: Brad_Guth wrote: Brad.Guth wrote: BradGuth wrote:
BG / �Guth Usenet: "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com>, the Faith-
based Pinko-Green Narcissist and L1 Fanatic wants to be on top
of the "stack" and burn brightly: -- <http://tinyurl.com/o59txw > --
ahahahaha...
>>
Brad wrote:
###::: I, Brad Guth, do have important things to share:
If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
but of course that never happened.
>
Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
>
WOAAAAHahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha.. ahahanson
BradGuth
> hanson wrote:
>
> Brad, I'm sorry that I forget to give you credit for the most profound
> statement that you ever uttered in your obese narcissism. See ###:::...
>
> Brad Guth wrote: Brad_Guth wrote: Brad.Guth wrote: BradGuth wrote:
>
> based Pinko-Green Narcissist and L1 Fanatic wants to be on top
> of the "stack" and burn brightly: -- <http://tinyurl.com/o59txw> --
> ahahahaha...
>
> Brad wrote:
>
> ###::: I, Brad Guth, do have important things to share:
> If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
> but of course that never happened.
>
> Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
> Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
>
>
>
> WOAAAAHahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha.. ahahanson
And the retro grade mindset of a slime-mold called hanson continues to
amaze the world with how little worth it is being of that introverted
species (of no spine and no exoskeleton shell).
What would happen if the hanson slime-mold were converted into a
synfuel? (could we even get a BTU/kg?)
~ BG
BradGuth
Apparently the zero delta-V worth of the Selene/moon L1 is as much
taboo/nondisclosure rated as is the hollow nature of our moon. Same
taboo/nondisclosure goes for Venus L2. I wonder how many other zero
delta-Vs have to be excluded and/or banished because of my LSE-CM/ISS.
Perhaps it's the 3e-21 bar vacuum of Selene L1 that's putting so many
folks at risk, or perhaps we can accept the mainstream status-quo of
how extremely cold and lacking in any kind of harmful radiation this
Earth-moon L1 (Selene L1) represents, at least according to the Apollo
13 data.
~ BG
hanson
it is not clear whether it was...
Brad Guth **before** improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
or...
Brad Guth **after** improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
when Brad Guth wrote the following 3 paragraphs which
appear to be "the important things that Brad has to share":
>
Bard Guth wrote:
(1) Brad Guth wrote: Brad_Guth wrote: Brad.Guth wrote:
BradGuth wrote: BG / �Guth Usenet, the Faith-based
Pinko-Green Narcissist and L1 Fanatic wants to be on top
of the "stack" and burn brightly: -- <http://tinyurl.com/o59txw >
(2) "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
... that Brad is always so upset and bothered ... no matter how
intentionally racist, bigoted, arrogant or dishonest his black heart
is. It seems negative consequences and remorse are simply not
any part of Brad's kosher faith that has so much disregard for
others as well as our frail environment.
(3) "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> who wrote:
What would happen if the hanson slime-mold were converted
>
hanson wrote:
Do you mean with your ***"we"** that there are more like you?
Brad, I'm sorry that I forget to give you credit for the most profound
>
Brad wrote:
###::: I, Brad Guth, do have important things to share:
If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
but of course that never happened.
>
Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
>
hanson
it is not clear whether it was...
Brad Guth **before** improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
or...
Brad Guth **after** improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
when Brad Guth wrote the following 3 paragraphs which
appear to be "the important things that Brad has to share":
>
Bard Guth wrote:
(1) Brad Guth wrote: Brad_Guth wrote: Brad.Guth wrote:
BradGuth wrote: BG / �Guth Usenet, the Faith-based
of the "stack" and burn brightly: -- <http://tinyurl.com/o59txw >
(2) "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
... that Brad is always so upset and bothered ... no matter how
intentionally racist, bigoted, arrogant or dishonest his black heart
is. It seems negative consequences and remorse are simply not
any part of Brad's kosher faith that has so much disregard for
others as well as our frail environment.
So, here�s yet another edited food for thought from
(3) "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> who wrote:
>
hanson wrote:
Do you mean with your ***"we"** that there are more like you?
>
Brad wrote:
###::: I, Brad Guth, do have important things to share:
If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
but of course that never happened.
>
Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
>
BradGuth
> hanson wrote:
>
> it is not clear whether it was...
> Brad Guth **before** improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
> or...
> Brad Guth **after** improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
> when Brad Guth wrote the following 3 paragraphs which
> appear to be "the important things that Brad has to share":
>
> Bard Guth wrote:
> (1) Brad Guth wrote: Brad_Guth wrote: Brad.Guth wrote:
>
> Pinko-Green Narcissist and L1 Fanatic wants to be on top
> of the "stack" and burn brightly: -- <http://tinyurl.com/o59txw>
>
> ... that Brad is always so upset and bothered ... no matter how
> intentionally racist, bigoted, arrogant or dishonest his black heart
> is. It seems negative consequences and remorse are simply not
> any part of Brad's kosher faith that has so much disregard for
> others as well as our frail environment.
> (3) "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> who wrote:
> What would happen if the hanson slime-mold were converted
> into a synfuel? (could ***we*** even get a BTU/kg?)
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> Do you mean with your ***"we"** that there are more like you?
> Brad, I'm sorry that I forget to give you credit for the most profound
> statement you ever uttered in your obese narcissism. See ###:::...
>
> Brad wrote:
>
> ###::: I, Brad Guth, do have important things to share:
> If only I had some teeth would be an improvement, ....,
> but of course that never happened.
>
> Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
> Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> WOAAAAHahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha.. ahahanson
?
Hagar
news:5f7e01cf-9fa5-47d3...@r38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
?
***************************
You see, GuthBall, we are just as dazzled by your inane
rants as you are by Hanson's. You two should get
together and write a book ... call it something profound,
like "Stupidity for Dummies" ...
BradGuth
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Or how about “Brown-Nosed Clown for Dummies”, and we’d use your nose,
because Hanson’s brown nose doesn’t really exist outside of your
mainstream butt-cheeks, whereas yours is always stuck out in public
view.
~ BG
Hagar
~ BG
**********************************
Your extraordinary witticisms make me repeatedly slap my
thighs with gales of laughter ... NOT !!!!!
BradGuth
>
> Your extraordinary witticisms make me repeatedly slap my
> thighs with gales of laughter ... NOT !!!!!
But most of your zingers are not all that funny either. What gives?
btw, where's your anti-hollow-moon physics and whatever science?
Are you suggesting the innards and core of that Selene/moon is somehow
considerably more dense than the mineral saturated, unusually mascon
populated, paramagnetic, excessively meteor and asteroid impacted/
deposited, and otherwise extremely thick and dark basalt crust?
You do realize the exposed bedrock of our crystal dry and highly
electrostatic charged Selene/moon is something near or below 0.05
reflectance (every bit as dark or darker than coal, as perhaps nearly
carbon lampblack).
~ BG
Hagar
~ BG
****************************************
First read this, you dingaling:
http://jersey.uoregon.edu/~mstrick/AskGeoMan/geoQuerry27.html
Now, since I know that the Moon was created by an glancing-blow impact by a
celestial object smaller than the Earth and the Moon accreted from most of
that debris, it also stands to reason that the Moon is composed mostly of
granite, and not basalt, as you so erroneously have stated in the past.
Since granite is considerably lighter than basalt, it will affect the
standard calculations of size, relative to weight and may indeed give the
impression that the Moon appears somewhat hollow, when in reality is solid,
but composed of the lighter granite, rather than the Earth composition of
both granite and the much denser and thus heavier basalt.
Glad to help you out there, GuthBall.
BradGuth
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Good thing you know all there is to know. However, at least that's as
good of subjective swag as any, though I don't happen to buy it, but
then I'm not the kind of dumbfounded fool on the hill that you and
others might care to think.
Btw, I've never stated the moon was made entirely of basalt. So, once
again you've proven yourself to be a liar.
What exactly does the bell like seismic ring of solid granite sound or
otherwise record like?
~ BG
BradGuth
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Btw; granite is NOT considerably lighter than basalt, although it may
compress somewhat better than basalt.
~ BG
~ BG
hanson
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> after he brown
nosed in "mainstream butt-cheeks" seen here at his
best in <http://tinyurl.com/nnc243> and so he wrote:
>
hanson wrote:
< http://tinyurl.com/n68mbt> [1] wherein one can see:
Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
>
Brad Guth didn't get the meaning of [1], wondered & wrote
---------- "?" -----------
>
Haggard Hagar wrote:
You see, GuthBall, we are just as dazzled by your inane
rants as you are by Hanson's. You two should get
together and write a book ... call it something profound,
like "Stupidity for Dummies" ...
>
Or how about �Brown-Nosed Clown for Dummies�, and
we�d use your nose, because Hanson�s brown nose
doesn�t really exist outside of your mainstream butt-cheeks,
whereas yours is always stuck out in public view.
>
Brad, your extraordinary witticisms make me repeatedly
slap my thighs with gales of laughter ... NOT !!!!!
>
But most of your zingers are not all that funny either.
physics and whatever science?
>
hanson wrote:
You are such an ingrate, Brad!... There I go to extreme
lengths to put your 99% hollow tripe with << 1% meat
on top of the stack again... and to boot, I finally I manage
to reel in a haggard victim for you. ...
But what do you do? You attack Hagar right off the bat...
& even after he gives you valuable advice!.... Sheesh!...
>
Brad, what makes you think that you are doing "science"
and much less contributing to it?.. You are just a ridiculously
hilarious schmuck well worth to be roasted continuously.
>
Hence, I will keep on with administering to you cuz you are
enormously funny & much easier to crank than are Zio-Nazis,
Goyim-Serfs of Kikes, Ass-venters or bible beaters or Little
Green Idiots who work for the ELF like you do.... ahahaha
So carry on and thanks for the laughs... ahahahanson
BradGuth
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Notice how spook(s)/mole(s) Hanson goes unpoliced and gets their glee
from topic/author stalking and bashings, just like a good Zionist
Nazi. With such kosher brown-nosed Hanson clowns is exactly why and
how Hitler accomplished so much collateral damage with so little other
intelligence of his own.
Obviously of what I have interpreted and to say is worth the effort by
those of the Hanson brown-nosed kind, as otherwise why should the
kosher mindset bother.
Btw, I still can't seem to find your solid granite moon analogy as
backed up with any seismic data. Perhaps you could help us out, as to
why our moon rings like a bell instead of a solid granite and iron
core kind of dull thud.
~ BG
Hagar
*******************************************
No, GuthBall, you never said one way or the other ... you just keep
insisting that it is 1 to 10% hollow, sort of a miniature version of your
cranium, which is 80 to 90% hollow. So I'm not a liar, but it makes you a
Doofus.
Hagar
**************************************
I beg to differ. Granite is considerably lighter than basalt. That is why
continents are mostly granite (lighter materials float to the top) and the
ocean floors are generally basalt (heavier stuff sinks). I know it is a
difficult concept for you to grasp, but perhaps you should try reading my
previous attachment again, but this time, open your eyes.
Hagar
************************************
And just like all Liberal Democrat whining slut-puppies, when confronted
with the truth, or if any of your lofty pipe-dreams are challenged, you
resort to the NAZI/Brown Shirt/Swastika defense, since any logical
discussion is beyond your ability and comprehension.
Nancy Pelosi is a fine example of this cowardly behavior, so is cocksucker
Barney Frank and that stoic idiot Harry Reid. But you wouldn't know that,
since the Liberal Media does not show their outbursts and insults to the
American public.
Hagar
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
news:jqNim.2818$Jg....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> WOAAAAHahaha... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
> "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> after he brown
> nosed in "mainstream butt-cheeks" seen here at his
> best in <http://tinyurl.com/nnc243> and so he wrote:
>>
> hanson wrote:
> < http://tinyurl.com/n68mbt> [1] wherein one can see:
> Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
> Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
> WOAAAAHahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha.. ahahanson
>>
> Brad Guth didn't get the meaning of [1], wondered & wrote
> ---------- "?" -----------
>>
> Haggard Hagar wrote:
> You see, GuthBall, we are just as dazzled by your inane
> rants as you are by Hanson's. You two should get
> together and write a book ... call it something profound,
> like "Stupidity for Dummies" ...
>>
> Brad Guth sniffs Hagar's turd, gets irate and wrote:
> doesn�t really exist outside of your mainstream butt-cheeks,
> whereas yours is always stuck out in public view.
>>
> Haggard "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote:
> Brad, your extraordinary witticisms make me repeatedly
> slap my thighs with gales of laughter ... NOT !!!!!
>>
> "BradGuth" wrote:
> But most of your zingers are not all that funny either.
> What gives? ... btw, where's your anti-hollow-moon
> physics and whatever science?
>>
> hanson wrote:
> You are such an ingrate, Brad!... There I go to extreme
> lengths to put your 99% hollow tripe with << 1% meat
> on top of the stack again... and to boot, I finally I manage
> to reel in a haggard victim for you. ...
> But what do you do? You attack Hagar right off the bat...
> & even after he gives you valuable advice!.... Sheesh!...
>>
> Brad, what makes you think that you are doing "science"
> and much less contributing to it?.. You are just a ridiculously
> hilarious schmuck well worth to be roasted continuously.
>>
> Hence, I will keep on with administering to you cuz you are
> enormously funny & much easier to crank than are Zio-Nazis,
> Goyim-Serfs of Kikes, Ass-venters or bible beaters or Little
> Green Idiots who work for the ELF like you do.... ahahaha
> So carry on and thanks for the laughs... ahahahanson
>
Give him hell, Hanson, hehehehehhhhh
hanson
"Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote:
>
hanson wrote:
WOAAAAHahaha... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
See "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> at his best,
here in <http://tinyurl.com/nnc243> after he brown nosed
in "mainstream butt-cheeks" and so Brad wrote:
>
hanson wrote:
< http://tinyurl.com/n68mbt> [1] wherein one can see:
Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
WOAAAAHahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha.. ahahanson
>
Brad Guth didn't get the meaning of [1], wondered & wrote
---------- "?" -----------
>
Haggard Hagar wrote:
You see, GuthBall, we are just as dazzled by your inane
rants as you are by Hanson's. You two should get
together and write a book ... call it something profound,
like "Stupidity for Dummies" ...
>
Brad Guth sniffs Hagar's turd, gets irate and wrote:
we�d use your nose, because Hanson�s brown nose
whereas yours is always stuck out in public view.
>
Haggard "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote:
Brad, your extraordinary witticisms make me repeatedly
slap my thighs with gales of laughter ... NOT !!!!!
>
"BradGuth" wrote:
But most of your zingers are not all that funny either.
What gives? ... btw, where's your anti-hollow-moon
physics and whatever science?
>
hanson wrote:
You are such an ingrate, Brad!... There I go to extreme
lengths to put your 99% hollow tripe with << 1% meat
on top of the stack again... and to boot, I finally I manage
to reel in a haggard victim for you. ...
But what do you do? You attack Hagar right off the bat...
& even after he gives you valuable advice!.... Sheesh!...
>
Brad, what makes you think that you are doing "science"
and much less contributing to it?.. You are just a ridiculously
hilarious schmuck well worth to be roasted continuously.
>
Hence, I will keep on with administering to you cuz you are
enormously funny & much easier to crank than are Zio-Nazis,
Goyim-Serfs of Kikes, Ass-venters or bible beaters or Little
Green Idiots who work for the ELF like you do.... ahahaha
So carry on and thanks for the laughs... ahahahanson
>
Give him hell, Hanson, hehehehehhhhh
>
Oh no, Hagar. I wouldn't do that, not in my wildest dreams.
I am a Good Samaritan who tends to and administers to the
mentally needy & the emotionally handicapped, like Brad Guth.
>
I do it in the splendid spirit of the Bumper sticker that says:
=== Hire the Handicapped! -- They are fun to watch! ===
Thanks for the laughs, Hagar... ahaha....ahahahanson
Hagar
>
> "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote:
>>
> hanson wrote:
> WOAAAAHahaha... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
> See "BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> at his best,
> here in <http://tinyurl.com/nnc243> after he brown nosed
> in "mainstream butt-cheeks" and so Brad wrote:
>>
> hanson wrote:
> < http://tinyurl.com/n68mbt> [1] wherein one can see:
> Brad Guth before improvement <http://tinyurl.com/plgvt9>
> Brad Guth after improvement <http://tinyurl.com/qfh8s5>
> WOAAAAHahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha.. ahahanson
>>
> Brad Guth didn't get the meaning of [1], wondered & wrote
> ---------- "?" -----------
>>
> Haggard Hagar wrote:
> You see, GuthBall, we are just as dazzled by your inane
> rants as you are by Hanson's. You two should get
> together and write a book ... call it something profound,
> like "Stupidity for Dummies" ...
>>
> Brad Guth sniffs Hagar's turd, gets irate and wrote:
> we�d use your nose, because Hanson�s brown nose
handicapped loon for your entertainment ... he delivers it free,
daily, timely as Big Ben. Venus, Moon/Selene and L1 all included
for free ... only at your local NG.
BradGuth
I supposed that I too could become a mindless mainstream parrot, as
only that would make yourself and others of your kind into happy
campers. At least that's what Hitler counted on, and pretty much got
from all of his brown nosed clowns and kosher minions.
~ BG
BradGuth
> "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
>
> news:9aYim.2828$nh2...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>
>
>
> > "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote:
>
> > hanson wrote:
> > WOAAAAHahaha... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
Plus we have your brown-nosed clownism and parrot mindset that's
remorseless and always available for creating the next holy war of
ethnic cleansing and economical readjustments, of getting as much of
our hard earned loot transferred into your retirement and benefits,
plus offshore tax avoidance banking/investment accounts.
~ BG
BradGuth
I supposed that I too could become another mindless mainstream parrot,
whereas only that would make yourself and others of your kind into
happy campers. At least that's what your warlord puppet Hitler
counted on, and pretty much got from all of his brown nosed clowns and
kosher minions.
Imagine how short WWII would have been, especially if there were more
of those kosher folks that were a whole lot more considerate and
compassionate, as well as otherwise independently thinking much like
myself and thereby getting in Hitler's face, or simply not
accomplishing whatever we were being asked to do on his behalf. I
don't believe Hitler could have managed to survive the first year.
~ BG
BradGuth
> Notice how the kosher mindset is always so upset and bothered whenever
> we outsiders speak if doing anything with our moon or that of its L1.
> At the same time, notice how they promptly send in those brown-nosed
> clowns in order to topic/author stalk, as to rally their species up to
> defending whatever others of their own kind get to say or do, no
> matters how intentionally racist, bigoted, arrogant or dishonest
> negative consequences and remorse are simply not any part of that
> kosher faith that has so much disregard for others as well as our
> frail environment.
>
Apparently the zero delta-V worth of our Selene/moon L1 as a gateway/
outpost/OASIS is still as much taboo/nondisclosure rated as is the
hollow nature of our moon. Same taboo/nondisclosure policy goes for
that of discussing Venus L2. I wonder how many other zero delta-Vs
have to be excluded and/or banished because of my LSE-CM/ISS, Boeing
OASIS and Clarke Station.
Perhaps it's the 3e-21 bar vacuum of Selene L1 that's putting so many
mainstream folks at further risk, or perhaps we can accept the
mainstream status-quo of how extremely cold and lacking in any kind of
harmful radiation while within this Earth-moon L1 (Selene L1), at
least according to the Apollo 13 data and most of everything our NASA
dares to share, it's relatively passive/inert and nearly always cold
out there.
BradGuth
Where's the objective evidence, or even the subjective interpretations
of the best available science, suggesting that our moon isn't the
least bit hollow?
Double-A
Do you subscribe to the hollow Earth theory too?
Double-A
BradGuth
Perhaps 0.1% hollow, but otherwise a highly compressed volume of
helium and of course hydrogen. 98.5% of this Eden/Earth is fluid,
leaving 1.5% as relatively solidified.
~ BG
BradGuth
>
> Double-A
Perhaps 0.1<1% hollow, but otherwise hosting a highly compressed core
volume of helium and of course good old hydrogen. 98.5% of this Eden/
Earth is by most interpretations fluid and continually interactive or
on the move (so to speak), leaving 1.5% as relatively solidified and
providing a crust/shell that’s containing all else that’s fluid or
that of compressed gaseous elements.
By hollow I don’t mean to imply as empty space at merely one bar worth
of interior pressure. A swimming pool or whatever underground tank is
void worthy, simply because it can be easily drained or pumped out.
I figure our extremely unusual Selene/moon is at least ten fold more
hollow than Earth, making our moon worth at least 1% hollow.
~ BG
Double-A
They say the Moon rang like a bell when it was impacted, leading some
to wonder if it were hollow. But maybe they meant more that it shook
like a bowl of jello. So maybe the Moon is filled with jello! (There
goes the blue cheese hypothesis!)
Dobule-A
BradGuth
Whatever's inside is hiding something of a lower density (less than
compressed basalt), perhaps even as low of density as sodium.
However, by rights there should be a few pockets or layers of mineral
brines, or voids as having been sucked crystal dry by the surrounding
3e-15 bar vacuum.
The unusually thick surface crust of Selene could be worth nearly 10%
of the mass, though at least worth half that much.
~ BG
Double-A
Perhaps it has a cream filled center, surrounded by a thick chocolate
crust, and a few silicate rocks and dust thrown on top for disguise!
A tasty snack that God is saving for later.
Double-A
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Pressure accrues; were BradGuth at the center of the earth,
there'd be 6 zetta·tons of wild-hot lava converging on him, ouch !
Where's the energy source to create such a powerful vacuum there ?
BradGuth
> On Aug 21, 1:37 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 21, 1:24 pm, Double-A <double...@hush.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 21, 1:12 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 21, 10:50 am, Double-A <double...@hush.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > > > Double-A
>
> > > > Perhaps 0.1<1%hollow, but otherwise hosting a highly compressed core
> > > > volume of helium and of course good old hydrogen. 98.5% of this Eden/
> > > > Earth is by most interpretations fluid and continually interactive or
> > > > on the move (so to speak), leaving 1.5% as relatively solidified and
> > > > providing a crust/shell that’s containing all else that’s fluid or
> > > > that of compressed gaseous elements.
>
> > > > of interior pressure. A swimming pool or whatever underground tank is
> > > > void worthy, simply because it can be easily drained or pumped out.
>
> > > >hollowthan Earth, making ourmoonworth at least 1%hollow.
>
> > > > ~ BG
>
> > > to wonder if it werehollow. But maybe they meant more that it shook
> > > like a bowl of jello. So maybe theMoonis filled with jello! (There
> > > goes the blue cheese hypothesis!)
>
> > > Dobule-A
>
> > Whatever's inside is hiding something of a lower density (less than
> > compressed basalt), perhaps even as low of density as sodium.
> > However, by rights there should be a few pockets or layers of mineral
> > brines, or voids as having been sucked crystal dry by the surrounding
> > 3e-15 bar vacuum.
>
> > The unusually thick surface crust of Selene could be worth nearly 10%
> > of the mass, though at least worth half that much.
>
> > ~ BG
>
> Perhaps it has a cream filled center, surrounded by a thick chocolate
> crust, and a few silicate rocks and dust thrown on top for disguise!
> A tasty snack that God is saving for later.
>
> Double-A
I'm thinking there's a lot of sodium and bauxite inside, whereas by
now it's crystal dry and being kept otherwise just a little bit warm
from its offset core of thorium.
~ BG
BradGuth
banishment enforced policy or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means ignoring any fix to our badly GW traumatized environment we call
Eden/Earth, or merely improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed to exist
unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get to
dominate. (isn't that special)
All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.
In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid public sharing of whatever knowledge, because we
(those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it is.
~ BG
BradGuth
I've never said anything about any vacuum within the core of Earth or
the moon.
Why does a void or whatever's hollow have to be without pressure?
Just answer; at what pressure does helium turn solid?
Same question goes for hydrogen and a few other mostly gaseous
elements, especially when those elements are hot.
~ BG
BradGuth
The lunar crust is much thicker and tougher than any crust of Earth,
so there's no good reason to interpret that kind of reasonable science
as meaning the lunar substances within and below that robust crust are
100% solid. In fact, there could still be a gaseous core to deal
with, as well as trapped layers or pockets of mineral brines (just
like deep within Earth).
~ BG
BradGuth
Geothermal/geodynamic derived gasses plus atomic produced hydrogen and
helium (under great pressure) = fast p-waves > 8 km/sec (obviously
stellar compressed gasses far exceed p-waves of 100 km/sec), but then
Earth and most everything else is after all made of star stuff.
Supposedly at 65 GPa, hydrogen offers a p-wave velocity of <20 km/sec
(depending on temperature, whereas the higher the temperature you’d
think the faster those p-waves), although the low density metallic
element of sodium by rights should also offer a relatively fast
seismic p-wave, from which the average interior density of our Selene/
moon can be interpreted. However, the potential hollowness of our
moon needs 3D seismic mapping that should have been accomplished as of
decades ago.
Mysteries of the Inner Earth (including our hollow moon)
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/inner_earth/inner.htm#contents
The Solid Earth Hypothesis
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/inner_earth/inner1.htm
“Since the density of the Earth increases with depth you would expect
the waves to slow down with increasing depth. Why, then, do both P-
and S-waves speed up as they go deeper? This can only happen because
the incompressibility and rigidity of the Earth increase faster with
depth than density increases. [2]”
“Thus geophysicists simply adjust the values for rigidity and
incompressibility to fit in with their preconceptions regarding
density and velocity distribution within the earth! In other words,
their arguments are circular.”
“*P-wave velocity = square root of [(incompressibility + 4/3rigidity)
divided by density]. S-wave velocity = square root of [rigidity
divided by density]. In a fluid, rigidity vanishes and S waves cannot
propagate at all.”
“On 8 June 1994, one of the largest deep earthquakes of the 20th
century, with a magnitude of 8.3 on the Richter scale, exploded 640 km
beneath Bolivia. It caused the whole earth to ring like a bell for
months on end; every 20 minutes or so, the entire planet expanded and
contracted by a minute amount. A significant feature of the Bolivian
earthquake was that it extended horizontally across a 30- by 50-km
plane within the 'subducting slab'. This undermines the hypothesis
that such quakes are caused by olivine within the 'cold' centre of a
slab suddenly being transformed into spinel in a runaway reaction when
the temperature rises above 600°C. It also undermines the theory that
gravity increases with depth; if this were true, the motion of
earthquakes at such depths should be nearly vertical [4]. There
appears to be something very wrong with scientific theories about what
exists and what is happening deep within the earth.”
“Rock density is generally expected to increase with depth, as
pressures rise. Results from the Kola hole indicated that densities
did increase with depth initially, but at 4.5 km the drill encountered
a sudden decrease in density, presumably due to increased porosity.
The results also showed that increases in seismic velocity do not have
to be caused by an increase in rock basicity. The Soviet Minister of
Geology reported that 'with increasing depth in the Kola hole, the
expected increase in rock densities was therefore not recorded.
Neither was any increase in the speed of seismic waves nor any other
changes in the physical properties of the rocks detected. Thus the
traditional idea that geological data obtained from the surface can be
directly correlated with geological materials in the deep crust must
be reexamined“
It seems below 4.5 km is where the density of Earth starts decreasing,
as though the basalt reinforced shell/crust above is taking most of
the gravity compression load, and of what’s below is simply less than
understood by way of any interior model or geophysical computer
simulations.
Geomagnetism:
“An alternative theory has been proposed by J.M. Herndon, who
suggests that the earth's magnetic field is largely produced by
electric currents generated by a self-sustaining nuclear fission
reaction in a uranium (and thorium) subcore at the centre of the
earth, having a density as high as 26 g/cm³ [5]. However, the
existence of such a subcore is entirely hypothetical.”
Apparently the geomagnetic/electromagnetic cause and affect that
sustains our vast and protective magnetosphere at a trillion+ fold
greater worth than anything humanly devised or even proposed is yet
another highly subjective piece of physics and science work that we’re
supposed to accept as mainstream objective matter of fact, even though
there are few actual facts, because any thoughts of revising our
interpretations are forbidden.
Gravity Force Inside a Spherical Shell (is always zero)
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/Mechanics/sphshell2.html#wtls
This only applies to the ideal hollow sphere, which of course does
not represent Earth or that of our Selene/moon. However, perhaps
somewhat in between the realm of absolute compressed solids and
whatever highly compressed metallic fluids could be a little give and
take, whereas compress gasses at less gravity would coexist without
causing problems or imposing weirdness upon the robust outer shell and
of it’s fluid liner.
There is obviously much we do not objectively know, and it seems there
are many here in Usenet/newsgroups that never want us to discover or
better understand whatever makes Earth and our moon tick (so to
speak), much less to ever utilize the zero delta-V of our moon/Selene
L1, Venus L2 or consider how applied technology makes the planet Venus
perfectly viable for an intelligent species (such as us humans). In
order to fend off the general media and other public interest, there’s
a gauntlet of topic/author stalking applied for everything that puts
their mainstream mindset and policy at risk, and otherwise there’s
always topic/author banishment, and apparently of their faith-based
sins no matters how egregious are to be forgiven, even though the past
and ongoing benefits from such faith perpetrated and unpoliced
debauchery are in charge of most everything that counts.
No wonder we have so much social/economic disparity, wars and global
inflation that primarily benefits the mostly faith-based rich and
powerful that seemingly can’t be avoided, perhaps because being a
mainstream bully requires hardly any real intelligence outside of brut
force or false flagged efforts.
BradGuth
this core of mostly atomic gasses happens to be surrounded by an
extremely robust outer crust, and the local gravity within that core
is near zero?
~ BG
> http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/inner_earth/inner.htm#...
BradGuth
> What's the pressure at the inner most core of a planet ormoonwhen
> this core of mostly atomic gasses happens to be surrounded by an
> extremely robust outer crust, and the local gravity within that core
> is near zero?
>
> ~ BG
For some weird reason, it's only the Zionist Nazis and their army of
brown-nosed minions that are upset over this topic. Apparently one of
my loose cannons must have hit some kosher private parts.
~ BG
Peter Webb
the moon is made from green cheese:
1. This aligns better with measurements of the moon's mass and hence average
density
2. Most cheeses are incompressible, and hence the outer layers of the moon
would not eventually collapse into the centre (as would be the case if the
mon was hollow).
HTH
BradGuth
Your dysfunctional 5th grade "The 1~10% green cheese moon" is noted.
Now change you diaper and take a long overdue nap.
Moon innards of sodium and other low density substances is more
likely, not that iron and other heavy elements are missing.
~ BG
Pat Flannery
May I suggest Parmesan cheese rather than green cheese?
The impact of the Apollo S-IVB stages on the Moon made the whole Moon
ring like a bell, as was detected by the seismometers the astronauts
left on its surface.
Wheels of Parmesan cheese are checked for ripeness and quality by
tapping them with a wooden mallet and noting the sound they emit.
Also, a Italian origin for the cheese the Moon's core is made out of is
suggested by the song "That's Amore" in which the Moon "hits you in the
eye like a big pizza pie" - a concept no doubt predicated on the
resemblance of craters to pepperoni slices, lunar mountains looking like
ground sausage, and the maria looking a lot like hot tomato sauce that
flowed up through the melted Mozzarella cheese on baking after severe
impacts by large mushrooms on its surface rearranged the crust.
Pat
BradGuth
Notice how the usual brown-nosed clowns of Usenet/newsgroups come out
to play "The 1~10% green cheese moon" game.
Obviously another of my loose cannons hit Pat squarely in his kosher
private parts, as otherwise why bother with any topic that I've
created.
Our Selene/moon simply isn't as solid and/or as densely compacted to
its core as their mainstream and public media damage control has
suggested, and lunar orbiting missions are simply not doing very well
because of all the secondary/recoil radiation, surface mascon issues,
electrostatic charged dust and that pesky sodium coming off the moon.
No wonder we only get to review 0.1% of the 100% public funded
science.
~ BG
Double-A
>
> - Show quoted text -
Do you suppose the moon, Selene, could be filled with selenium? Now
wouldn't that be ironic?
Double-A
BradGuth
Supposedly the gamma/neutron spectrum detector of our spendy LRO
mission will give us another clue. Too bad we only get to review 0.1%
of all that public funded science. It's exactly as though they have
something to hide.
The LCROSS portion may run itself out of fuel and essentially miss
their target, so that perhaps little if any further geophysical
spectrometry data of whatever our Selene/moon represents may be DOA or
SOL as is.
~ BG
BradGuth
spendy and otherwise unsustainable, as well as undefendable against
whatever is headed our way. We can hardly manage to keep our own LEO
stuff from controlled or rogue encountering or otherwise interacting
with one another as is. If something seriously bad should happen to
Earth, there’s certainly no good odds that being in whatever LEO
habitat is going to be entirely failsafe, and certainly doomed if
there’s no further ground support.
If your sun was about to shift from its relatively supermassive red
giant phase, down to that of a little white dwarf of less than an
eighth its original (pre red supergiant) stellar mass, and if an icy
planetoid or proto-moon were going to suddenly become tidal radii
discarded and headed in the right/general direction, away from its
failing home solar system and migrating towards that of another nearby
passive solar system, then by all means such an icy planetoid could
become safely utilized as your multi-generation interstellar space
craft, as an entirely capable sphere of hosting sustainable life (no
matters how weird, dumb or unnecessary some of that life might
represent).
However, many are correct in thinking that most of us can't seem to
manage or otherwise pay for living here on Earth, especially within
any similar controlled ecosystem as would be required in space travels
or upon some other planet or moon that isn't already Eden approved.
Our unusual Selene/moon is however nearby but not too close, and it
likely has most everything except fresh water to work with as is,
including interior voids our hollows worth utilizing as is.
If you don’t happen to like that idea of ever utilizing our moon,
there’s always the planet Venus that’s only a hundred times further
away every 19 months, and it certainly has more than a sufficient
cache of fresh water in those acidic clouds as is, as well as all the
minerals and elements of Earth, plus unlimited local energy that’s
essentially renewable to boot.
~ BG
Hagar
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If you don�t happen to like that idea of ever utilizing our moon,
there�s always the planet Venus that�s only a hundred times further
away every 19 months, and it certainly has more than a sufficient
cache of fresh water in those acidic clouds as is, as well as all the
minerals and elements of Earth, plus unlimited local energy that�s
essentially renewable to boot.
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GuthBall, perhaps you forgot, but there is one teeny problem, namely
all the good stuff on Venus is on ground level and that's a cauldron of
high temperature, pressure and sulfuric acid. Good luck with that.
BradGuth
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
True, it's hot from the ground up, perhaps because Venus isn't very
old.
However, even the worse of that thermally toasty environment isn't
outside of existing technology that can withstand and function within
811 K. There's actually a range of 600 K up to perhaps 780 K upon
that surface as depending most on elevation (-4 km to +11 km),
secondly polar/equator location and the slight day/night (+/- 10 K)
differences. There are however thousands of geothermal vents and
likely more than a few hundred active mud/lava flows that are
extremely hot (just like here on Earth).
~ BG
Ken
I've run across BGuth elsewhere, but never knew he was such a fuckin'
loon.
Sure likes talking to himself...K
BradGuth
An example of your expertise is?
~ BG
BradGuth
Why does your rabbi Father keep showing up at the old topic?
"The 1% hollow moon / Brad Guth"
Is there something unkosher about it, or is it just a family trait
that's deeply encoded into your incest mutated DNA?
Otherwise it's true about the planet Venus, that it's extremely hot
from the ground up, though perhaps it's because Venus isn't very old,
and otherwise because it's losing 20.5 w/m2.
BradGuth
An example of your expertise is?
That's what I'd thought, whereas it seems you don't have any expertise
or valid feedback to offer.
~ BG
Hagar
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Well, good luck digging a foundation for your first Venusian house at
that altitude ... or anchoring your dirigible ... or planting your veggie
garden ... or drilling a water well ... you'd probably want to use gravity
draining toilets, but don't piss off the Venusians with your flying shit ...
Hagar
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You've rendered him speechless with your brilliance. Far as I know,
you're the only person who speaks perfect "Imbecilic".
BradGuth
Same question for you; An example of your expertise (outside of being
a kosher parrot) is?
~ BG
BradGuth
With unlimited local energy and that terrific atmospheric buoyancy
plus only 90.5% gravity, we could make enough snow and ice for hosting
a full scale indoors version of the Winter Olympics. At least
everything needed is already there.
~ BG
Hagar
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My expertise lies in "Bullshit Detection" ...
however, in your case it doesn't really require an expert, GuthBall.
Hagar
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You're a blessed man, GuthBall ... rumor has it that God looks out for
drunks and idiots ... and you're not a drunk ...
BradGuth
Your lack of spunk an inability to think deductively is noted.
~ BG
BradGuth
As expected, you've never had anything to actually contribute. The
good news is that you don't have to own any parrots, because that's
built in.
Did you always do/mimic exactly as you were told, or do you hold a
masters degree in parrot?
~ BG
Hagar
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You, talking about mimicking ??? Do a search and see how many times
during the past year you have penned the utterly ridiculous words
Nazi/Zionist.
When you're done counting, get back with me for further instructions. For
the next step you'll need a handgun and bullets ..... just one bullet will
do ...