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rem...@aol.com

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Jul 2, 2007, 8:28:36 PM7/2/07
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NASA NUKED JUPITER

Read http://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html .

P.S.: ALSO read:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/11/02.html .

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"The Truth IS STRANGER than fiction."
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"OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL."
"The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME."

Joe Strout

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Jul 2, 2007, 11:09:24 PM7/2/07
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In article <1183422516.5...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
rem...@aol.com wrote:

> 3>
> NASA NUKED JUPITER


>
>
> "EVERYTHING you know is WRONG."
> "The Truth IS STRANGER than fiction."
> "The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR."
> "OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL."
> "The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME."

"Usenet is FULL of KOOKS and loonies, and rem460 is ONE OF THEM."

Sheesh.

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Jul 2, 2007, 11:19:08 PM7/2/07
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Joe Strout wrote:

> In article <1183422516.5...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> rem...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> 3>
>> NASA NUKED JUPITER
>>
>>
>> "EVERYTHING you know is WRONG."
>> "The Truth IS STRANGER than fiction."
>> "The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR."
>> "OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL."
>> "The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME."
>
> "Usenet is FULL of KOOKS and loonies, and rem460 is ONE OF THEM."

Is dropping nuclear material into Jupiter a good thing or a bad thing?
Personally, I think dropping nuclear material into Jupiter is similar to
dropping nuclear material into the Sun.

Joe Strout

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Jul 3, 2007, 12:13:33 AM7/3/07
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In article <Mejii.3414$tj6...@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Craig Fink <WeBe...@GMail.Com> wrote:

I agree. It's also similar to spitting into the ocean, or exhaling into
the atmosphere.

Best,
- Joe

Space Balls

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Jul 3, 2007, 3:07:46 AM7/3/07
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"Craig Fink" <WeBe...@GMail.Com> wrote in message
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Could be, but the trouble is we don't know. Either way...this was an
interesting read. I'm not a mathemetician or a physicist, but it makes for
a good story.

Frapple Bonk

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Jul 3, 2007, 1:16:05 AM7/3/07
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Cool ! A Google-poster *and* an AOL address!

Does your left show up with knicker teabag book-binding
incoherent plut0nium sharp fin sand buggy glossy floyd?

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surfduke

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Jul 3, 2007, 9:08:04 AM7/3/07
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It was better than letting it smash into a moon of interest.

Carl

Craig Fink

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Jul 3, 2007, 10:35:39 AM7/3/07
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surfduke wrote:

> It was better than letting it smash into a moon of interest.

Very true, but what's that spot in on Jupiter?
http://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html
the Meecker's image on October 19, 2003
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/countdown/
Galileo impacted on Sept 21, 2003

Is the spot located at the impact location?
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/countdown/jupiter_impact.mpg
looks like the equator

So, the Meecker image near a pole has nothing to do with Galileo.

ein...@gmail.com

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Jul 3, 2007, 8:00:59 PM7/3/07
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Just out of curiosity, what do you think would happen if we would dump
reactive material into the Sun?

Remember, the Sun is a rather large fusion furnase. Compared to the
share amount of energy being produced there every second, a nuclear
bomb looks somewhat small.

Einar

KellyMc...@gmail.com

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Jul 3, 2007, 8:09:59 PM7/3/07
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On Jul 2, 8:28 pm, rem...@aol.com wrote:
> 3>
> NASA NUKED JUPITER
>
> Readhttp://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html.
>
> P.S.: ALSO read:
> http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/11/02.html.

>
> Robert E. McElwaine
> PAO Member
> Eckankar Initiate
> B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EChttp://members.aol.com/rem547PLUShttp://members.aol.com/rem460

> Preserve BOTH on CD-R and PRINT-OUTS
> ALSOhttp://www.geocities.com/remspiral7/

>
> P.S.2: PASS IT ON !
>
> "EVERYTHING you know is WRONG."
> "The Truth IS STRANGER than fiction."
> "The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR."
> "OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL."
> "The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME."

Except, uhh, err, Plutonium-238 (the isotope used in RTG's) is not
fissile (i.e. will not support a chain reaction). Pu-239 is the
fissile isotope used in nuclear weapons (since it will support a chain
reaction), but is completely unsuited for use in RTG's.


ein...@gmail.com

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Jul 4, 2007, 9:11:31 AM7/4/07
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That does rather put a spanner in his theory :)

Cheers, Einar

ein...@gmail.com

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Jul 4, 2007, 9:13:51 AM7/4/07
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> Is dropping nuclear material into Jupiter a good thing or a bad thing?
> Personally, I think dropping nuclear material into Jupiter is similar to
> dropping nuclear material into the Sun.

Indeed, a drop in the ocean.

Cheers, Einar

Craig Fink

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Jul 4, 2007, 9:17:00 AM7/4/07
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KellyMc...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Jul 2, 8:28 pm, rem...@aol.com wrote:
>> 3>
>> NASA NUKED JUPITER
>>
>> Readhttp://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html.
>>

> Except, uhh, err, Plutonium-238 (the isotope used in RTG's) is not


> fissile (i.e. will not support a chain reaction). Pu-239 is the
> fissile isotope used in nuclear weapons (since it will support a chain
> reaction), but is completely unsuited for use in RTG's.

Is Cassini going to take the plunge, at the end of it's mission? I had to
read it again, a little more closely. He addresses your issue a bit in it
and a bunch of others that I had. But a correlation of one, isn't much. I'm
still sceptical, but it's interesting to think about.

No plunge planned yet.
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/operations/cassini-calendar-ALL.cfm
Maybe NASA will protect Titan, like the decision to protect Europa from
future contamination, and then watch a little closer.

Craig Fink

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Jul 4, 2007, 10:04:18 AM7/4/07
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ein...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> KellyMcDonal...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jul 2, 8:28 pm, rem...@aol.com wrote:
>> > 3>
>> > NASA NUKED JUPITER
>> >
>> > Readhttp://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html.

>> Except, uhh, err, Plutonium-238 (the isotope used in RTG's) is not


>> fissile (i.e. will not support a chain reaction). Pu-239 is the
>> fissile isotope used in nuclear weapons (since it will support a chain
>> reaction), but is completely unsuited for use in RTG's.
>
> That does rather put a spanner in his theory :)
>
> Cheers, Einar

Isn't it the unexpected results where discoveries are quite often make, the
explanation or conclusion on the web page may or may not be correct. The
correlation between the two events may or may not be correct. I think the
sensationalism and moral judgments made in the wording of the page can be
ignored. But it's interesting to think about, all the things that were done
to protect Earth during the launch of the material also protects the
material during reentry at Jupiter. Designed for maximum intact
survivability, heat and impact. Some sort of high order detonation in less
than a second, or burning over hours creating an up welling? Weapons test
are limited to short time frames on Earth. What about a slow squeeze? I
don't know.
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Jochem Huhmann

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Jul 4, 2007, 2:24:45 PM7/4/07
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Craig Fink <WeBe...@GMail.Com> writes:

> But it's interesting to think about, all the things that were done
> to protect Earth during the launch of the material also protects the
> material during reentry at Jupiter. Designed for maximum intact
> survivability, heat and impact. Some sort of high order detonation in less
> than a second, or burning over hours creating an up welling? Weapons test
> are limited to short time frames on Earth. What about a slow squeeze? I
> don't know.

It's not only a slow but also a constant and increasing pressure, so you
don't need a chain reaction so sustain some fission.

Jochem

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