re Greaves and his synthetic anger against AAVSO
ukastronomy
Nicholson uttered
"How curious that none of the people Greaves has claimed as
supporters"
you are such a little word twister Nutterson.
No one claimed any supporters.
Simply put these people said your eJAAVSO 86 and 92 were meaningless.
They didn't support anyone in any campaign, they just looked at the
papers. They don't care about you or your stuff particularly, well
one or two don't like you and one of them you have managed to teach to
hate you via a mutual return of your hate of them, but that's all.
There is not even any need for supporters, the papers are drivel.
Simple as that. You still think it is a debating game don't you?
They don't stop being drivel if their supporters have 100 people and
their detractors have 5 people. They're drivel because they are
drivel. It is a science you know, things have to make sense and
algorithms and procedures used contextually, not just quoted.
Have you forgotten already how you went around touting to a mail list
or two asking where you could get your O-C values for these stars
published? Because you'd neglected to research properly again, and
despite a plethora of examples all over the web you managed not to
realise the simple fact that people don't log and record O-C, they log
and record ToM, from which O-C can be generated given elements, ie a
period and epoch.
No supporters claimed. None needed.
And yes one of them at least did, privately, to keep off your hate
mail lists and blogs, and all on their ownsome, without prompting,
tell Arne Henden that if empty papers like that were going to be
published in ejaavso it would be the same as people publishing a whole
paper every time they got a ToM or two.
And one other did say you'd got the sums wrong, which is no great
surprise incidentally.
There is no matter of "support" or people feeling the need to get
themselves slagged off on your snotty little blogs and all over usenet
and google groups.
For a lot of them are high up volunteers and staff members of various
groups. They don't need to play with you in public.
What most of them are really worried about is why the hell AAVSO
published those papers in the first place.
And it looks like it might have some effect on which venue some of
them choose when it comes to publishing their own work in future.
You sure have some effect on publishing venues. OEJV had to introduce
an editorial board because of your tricks, and there were always the
rumours that you pissed of IBVS editors, but it's trickier to pin down
primary sources for that one, so it's only rumour, not demonstrable.
You have to be the old drama queen again though and talk about support
and assuming their are groups and cliques. We're talking about people
able to think for themselves here. They see rubbish passed off in a
journal, they know how to think on it. No need for support or
cliques.
O-C is O-C you soft sod, it can tell us things only if it is asked
properly. If not asked properly it cannot.
If you spent as much time doing literature reading work as you do
claiming drivel all over the web you might get a bit further.
This usenet and blog thing sure is easy to do compared to research and
literature read up and writing analyses up, must be easier for you
seeing how much cut and paste you do and how you don't bother checking
your science, I can see why you're so prolific at it, day after day
week after week month after month.
Your turn to have the last word, oh dim one. I'm only playing with
you now, I know you love to have the last word because it makes you
think you won. So I reply.
It's called taking the piss.
khadema al suna
In Spain under the Umayyads and in Baghdad under the Abbasid Khalifas,
Christians and Jews, equally with Muslims, were admitted to the
Schools and universities - not only that, but were boarded and lodged
in hostels at the cost of the state. When the Moors were driven out of
Spain, the Christian conquerors held a terrific persecution of the
Jews. Those who were fortunate enough to escape fled, some of them to
Morocco and many hundreds to the Turkish empire, where their
descendants still live in separate communities, and still speak among
themselves an antiquated form of Spanish. The Muslim empire was a
refuge for all those who fled from persecution by the Inquisition.
The Western Christians, till the arrival of the Encyclopaedists in the
eighteenth century, did not know and did not care to know, what the
Muslim believed, nor did the Western Christian seek to know the views
of Eastern Christians with regard to them. The Christian Church was
already split in two, and in the end, it came to such a pass that the
Eastern Christians, as Gibbon shows, preferred Muslim rule, which
allowed them to practice their own form of religion and adhere to
their peculiar dogmas, to the rule of fellow Christians who would have
made them Roman Catholics or wiped them out.
For the Muslims, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are but three forms
of one religion, which, in its original purity, was the religion of
Abraham: Al-Islam, that perfect Self-Surrender to the Will of God,
which is the basis of Theocracy. The Jews, in their religion, after
Moses, limited God's mercy to their chosen nation and thought of His
kingdom as the dominion of their race.
Even Christ himself, as several of his sayings show, declared that he
was sent only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel and seemed to
regard his mission as to the Hebrews only; and it was only after a
special vision vouchsafed to St. Peter that his followers in after
days considered themselves authorized to preach the Gospel to the
Gentiles. The Christians limited God’s mercy to those who believed
certain dogmas. Every one who failed to hold the dogmas was an outcast
or a miscreant, to be persecuted for his or her soul’s good. In Islam
only is manifest the real nature of the Kingdom of God.
The two verses (2:255-256) of the Qur’an are supplementary. Where
there is that realization of the majesty and dominion of Allah (SWT),
there is no compulsion in religion. Men choose their path - allegiance
or opposition - and it is sufficient punishment for those who oppose
that they draw further and further away from the light of truth.
In Egypt the Copts were on terms of closest friendship with the
Muslims in the first centuries of the Muslim conquest, and they are on
terms at closest friendship with the Muslims at the present day. In
Syria the various Christian communities lived on terms of closest
friendship with the Muslims in the first centuries of the Muslim
conquest, and they are on terms of closest friendship with the Muslims
at the present day, openly preferring Muslim domination to a foreign
yoke....
From the expulsion of the Moriscos dates the degradation and decline
of Spain. San Fernando was really wiser and more patriotic in his
tolerance to conquered Seville, Murcia and Toledo than was the later
king who, under the guise of Holy warfare, captured Grenada and let
the Inquisition work its will upon the Muslims and the Jews. And the
modern Balkan States and Greece are born under a curse. It may even
prove that the degradation and decline of European civilization will
be dated from the day when so-called civilized statesmen agreed to the
inhuman policy of Czarist Russia and gave their sanction to the crude
fanaticism of the Russian Church.
There is no doubt but that, in the eyes of history, religious
toleration is the highest evidence of culture in a people. Let no
Muslim, when looking on the ruin of the Muslim realm which was
compassed through the agency of those very peoples whom the Muslims
had tolerated and protected through the centuries when Western Europe
thought it a religious duty to exterminate or forcibly convert all
peoples of another faith than theirs - let no Muslim, seeing this,
imagine that toleration is a weakness in Islam. It is the greatest
strength of Islam because it is the attitude of truth.
badastrobuster
It is my view that it is to a large extent by what you write and what
you do and to a lesser extend by what people, reliable people, people
from Northampton and people who attended the joint AAVSO/BAA meeting
in Cambridge say about you, your personality and your EMPLOYMENT
HISTORY.
Simple really.
You condemn yourself through the wide range of organisations and
people you have "attacked" in print. Selected highlights can be found
at http://www.geocities.com/badastrobuster/index.htm. It is all there
- the attacks, your subsequent shamefaced admissions of error and
your
banning from multiple groups.
You condemn yourself through your anonymous postings, the vast array
of different user names you also post under, the identity theft that
you admitted in 2008 and repeated in 2009, the lies, the obsessive
repetition of claims made without evidence, your condemnation of
behaviour you exhibit yourself ... the list goes on and on and on.
You condemn yourself through the results you published, then called
"totally spurious" but were too idle to correct.
Well time for me to move on. I've really enjoyed creating a permanent
record of your misdeeds and I am sure it will be in safe hands now it
has been passed on. I've got houses to sell, inheritances to spend,
schools to oversee, projects to finish so ... no more time for the
"Nutter from Northampton".
Have a sad life John - like you do at present.
Androcles
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