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Davoud

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Jul 1, 2009, 8:40:11 PM7/1/09
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... at the Midwest Astro-Imaging Conference, where Chris was a
presenter and I was a rapt listener. And what a pleasure it was to meet
Chris!

Photo of this historic meeting at
<http://www.primordial-light.com/mwaic0627.html>.

Davoud

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usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names

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Jul 1, 2009, 8:53:26 PM7/1/09
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Thanks for posting the photo.

Here in the midst of health care, wars, rumors of war, commies,
socialists, rightwingnuts, biblethumpers, Michael Jackson's death and
resurrection, it's great to see some real people doing something
worthwhile!!!


I.N. Galidakis

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Jul 1, 2009, 9:32:52 PM7/1/09
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Davoud wrote:
> ... at the Midwest Astro-Imaging Conference, where Chris was a
> presenter and I was a rapt listener. And what a pleasure it was to meet
> Chris!
>
> Photo of this historic meeting at
> http://www.primordial-light.com/mwaic0627.html.

Something is very wrong here. You are using a Dell and Chris is using a Mac?!
:-)

> Davoud
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Ioannis

Sketcher

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Jul 1, 2009, 9:48:23 PM7/1/09
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Davoud wrote:
>
> Photo of this historic meeting at
> <http://www.primordial-light.com/mwaic0627.html>.
>
What? Are you trying to say that some posters to saa are real
people? The photo is obviously a hoax. Davoud's black "Mac" tells
all ;-)

Sketcher,
To sketch is to see.

Sam Wormley

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Jul 1, 2009, 10:02:18 PM7/1/09
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Davoud wrote:
> ... at the Midwest Astro-Imaging Conference, where Chris was a
> presenter and I was a rapt listener. And what a pleasure it was to meet
> Chris!
>
> Photo of this historic meeting at
> <http://www.primordial-light.com/mwaic0627.html>.
>
> Davoud
>

Good combination!

Also the Hotspot and the MacBook Pro!

Chris L Peterson

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Jul 1, 2009, 11:34:47 PM7/1/09
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The Slammer

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Jul 2, 2009, 8:46:49 AM7/2/09
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"Davoud" <st...@sky.net> wrote in message
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> ... at the Midwest Astro-Imaging Conference, where Chris was a
> presenter and I was a rapt listener. And what a pleasure it was to meet
> Chris!
>
> Photo of this historic meeting at
> <http://www.primordial-light.com/mwaic0627.html>.
>
> Davoud

Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber?

Michael Toms

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Jul 2, 2009, 10:29:14 AM7/2/09
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People being what they are and the internet being what it is they could be
anyone.


AJ Sanderlin

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Jul 2, 2009, 12:29:38 PM7/2/09
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"Michael Toms" <to...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> People being what they are and the internet being what it is they could be
> anyone.

Good point. I seriously doubt it's them, and no one has showed up to
confirm it. From the images, one guy looks about 80 and the other 70, not
the impression I get from their lively and sometimes controversial
interactions.

AJ

Davoud

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Jul 2, 2009, 2:04:30 PM7/2/09
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AJ Sanderlin wrote:

> Good point. I seriously doubt it's them, and no one has showed up to
> confirm it. From the images, one guy looks about 80 and the other 70, not
> the impression I get from their lively and sometimes controversial
> interactions.

Thank you for your unkind words. I just turned 65. Chris is
considerably younger, but I don't know his age and wouldn't reveal it
if I did.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, that I am 80 years old, or perhaps
90. You must have very limited life experience if you think that such a
person cannot have a "lively" interaction with the world. I would
recommend a visit to the Iridium Jazz Club at Broadway & 51st, where
93-year-old Les Paul plays two sets every Monday night. I wonder how
well you will be performing at 93! I'll bet that I am doing a _lot_ of
things that would surprise any person with a sufficiently high level of
ignorance.

This was unexpected. If you are serious in thinking that's not Chris
and me, why not go to mwaic.com and look at the pictures of the
presenters? You will see Chris's photo there. And then you might tell
yourself that since I told the truth about that being Chris on the
right, maybe I also told the truth about that being me on the left. Or
you could look at Facebook or davidillig.com or the photo at the top of
this page <http://www.primordial-light.com/technique.html>.

Of maybe not; they could all be hoaxes, since I am a known conspirator
in the CIA/NSA/Air Force/Department of Agriculture/Nevada Highway
Commission/Taft/Eisenhower/Nixon/Clinton/Bush/Obama/Leftist/Rightist/
Islamic/UN/NRA/ACLU/Liberal Press/RushLimbaugh/Illuminati/
Your-Favorite-Here coverup of the aliens that we are holding at Area
51. I may also have participated as a rock and sand painter in the
Moon-landing hoax.

Maybe there was no MWAIC; if there was a meeting at all, maybe it was
for the purpose of planning to move the Area 51 aliens to Guantanamo --
dressed as Arabs, of course.

Maybe that wasn't me in the story in the February, 2009, issue of
MacLife. Maybe the story that my wife had published in the November,
2008, issue of Sky & Telescope wasn't about me.

In other words, the pic is what it is. It was posted for the amusement
of SAA regulars who have brains in their heads, not to offer anyone the
opportunity to display their lack of civility or to feed the paranoid
nutsos. Come to think of it, maybe it's the paranoid nutsos who aren't
real. And wouldn't that be great!

Davoud

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Jul 2, 2009, 2:08:16 PM7/2/09
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Davoud wrote:
> > Photo of this historic meeting at
> > <http://www.primordial-light.com/mwaic0627.html>.

Sam Wormley replied:


> Good combination!
>
> Also the Hotspot and the MacBook Pro!

We don't do Mac/Windows talk any more, but I will comment on the
Verizon MiFi device. For those not familiar with it, it accesses the
Net via Verizon's 3G network and rebroadcasts it via WiFi.

Two thumbs up. I had a Verizon express card, which I liked very much,
but it only serves one computer at a time, and when my wife wanted
wi-fi on a trip it necessitated setting up "Internet Sharing via
AirPort" on the Mac. No big thing, but when breakfasting with several
friends (up to five connections at once) or on the road when my wife
needs wi-fi as well, the MiFi is very convenient. I use a closed
network with WPA2 encryption and a non-trivial password. Connection is
instantaneous and it holds. In the photo it was tethered to the
computer, but it need not be; the battery lasts for about four hours of
continuous use and can go on standby after an interval of disuse.

These things are not inexpensive @ $60 per month, but when we're on the
road my wife and I agree that it's worth every penny. If I recall, the
wireless was more $10 or so per day at the Marriott, so there was $30
of my $60, and I saved another $40 earlier in June. In other words, the
use of the MiFi was free for June and put me $10 in the black. Highly
recommended for info-junkies.

Davoud

* Please would note that in the photo I had my hands on the Dell. Nice
computer, nice size. Notice that Chris had his hands at his sides,
perhaps unwilling to touch that other computer ;-)

VicXnews

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Jul 2, 2009, 2:21:42 PM7/2/09
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my son has one for work(and play)...he loves it...he bought it brought it
to work and showed them...now they are paying for it...they see how much
more work he can get done

Chris L Peterson

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Jul 2, 2009, 2:53:34 PM7/2/09
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:29:38 -0400, "AJ Sanderlin" <aj...@ez.net> wrote:

>Good point. I seriously doubt it's them, and no one has showed up to
>confirm it. From the images, one guy looks about 80 and the other 70, not
>the impression I get from their lively and sometimes controversial
>interactions.

I can assure you it really is us. Davoud normally looks much younger,
but the strain of sitting for ten seconds in front of a Dell running
Windows 7 really took its toll on him...
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

Martin R. Howell

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Jul 2, 2009, 7:17:18 PM7/2/09
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:29:38 -0400, "AJ Sanderlin" <aj...@ez.net>
wrote:

>"Michael Toms" <to...@nospam.net> wrote in message


. . .and you are coming across here as around age 13 (or younger).


Martin R. Howell

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Jul 2, 2009, 7:19:19 PM7/2/09
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:46:49 -0400, "The Slammer" <slamm...@bam.net>
wrote:


Either one of them is smarter on their dumbest day than you will ever
be on your smartest day. Plus, each have achieved something in life.
Have you?

The Slammer

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"Martin R. Howell" <martin...@ilikestarsandyoudotoo.com> wrote in message
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Really? Well, how about I throw a little integration/ differentiation at
them and see how they do, or some organic/inorganic chemistry. The latter
stops most folks in their tracks fast. Yes, I think it would be an
interesting challenge.


Plus, each have achieved something in life.
> Have you?

And what might that be? "Davoud" spends most of his time here blasting this
one or that one with his quite opinionated discussion. Hard to tell if he's
achieved anything to speak of. As for Chris, I'm uncertain, although his
conversations are far more factual, for the most part, than Davoud's.

Davoud

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Jul 2, 2009, 10:13:22 PM7/2/09
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The Slammer wrote:

> Really? Well, how about I throw a little integration/ differentiation
> at them and see how they do, or some organic/inorganic chemistry. The
> latter stops most folks in their tracks fast. Yes, I think it would be an
> interesting challenge.

Is that the limit of your definition of achievement? Rembrandt,
Shakespeare, Goethe, Proust, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Salk, Eisenhower--just
a bunch of slackers, eh?

> "Davoud" spends most of his time here blasting this
> one or that one with his quite opinionated discussion.

Er, ah, who's doing the "blasting" here? Never mind. For $80 per hour,
or fraction thereof, plus expenses, I'll come to your home and/or
office and show you how to add my name to your kill-file.

> Hard to tell if he's achieved anything to speak of.

I can assure you that I have achieved very little to speak of. Bet you
won't solve that riddle!

Martin R. Howell

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Jul 2, 2009, 10:32:56 PM7/2/09
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:09:55 -0400, "The Slammer" <slamm...@bam.net>
wrote:

Your lack of knowledge of this group is more than apparent to any of
the many longtime residents here. Lurk awhile before making
statements which show you clearly have no handle those that post here.
Oh, by the way, I am not interested in the ill informed response your
will shoot back at me. so. . .PLONK

Martin R. Howell

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Jul 2, 2009, 10:39:29 PM7/2/09
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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:32:56 -0700, Martin R. Howell
<martin...@ilikestarsandyoudotoo.com> wrote:


>
>Your lack of knowledge of this group is more than apparent to any of
>the many longtime residents here. Lurk awhile before making
>statements which show you clearly have no handle those that post here.
>Oh, by the way, I am not interested in the ill informed response your
>will shoot back at me. so. . .PLONK

should read. . ."you're going to shoot back at me"
sleepy and past my bedtime when I posted the error
good night

The Slammer

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:06:32 AM7/3/09
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"Davoud" <st...@sky.net> wrote in message
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> The Slammer wrote:
>
>> Really? Well, how about I throw a little integration/ differentiation
>> at them and see how they do, or some organic/inorganic chemistry. The
>> latter stops most folks in their tracks fast. Yes, I think it would be
>> an
>> interesting challenge.
>
> Is that the limit of your definition of achievement? Rembrandt,
> Shakespeare, Goethe, Proust, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Salk, Eisenhower--just
> a bunch of slackers, eh?

So, you're trying to compare yourself to poets, playrights and past
presidents? Sorry, don't think so.

>> "Davoud" spends most of his time here blasting this
>> one or that one with his quite opinionated discussion.
>
> Er, ah, who's doing the "blasting" here? Never mind. For $80 per hour,
> or fraction thereof, plus expenses, I'll come to your home and/or
> office and show you how to add my name to your kill-file.

For double that rate, I'll come to your house and teach you lessons in net
etiquette.

>> Hard to tell if he's achieved anything to speak of.
>
> I can assure you that I have achieved very little to speak of. Bet you
> won't solve that riddle!

Don't want to solve it, thanks, but if you think you've been courteous and
respectful to others here, think again.

AJ Sanderlin

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:18:50 AM7/3/09
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"Davoud" <st...@sky.net> wrote in message
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> AJ Sanderlin wrote:
>
>> Good point. I seriously doubt it's them, and no one has showed up to
>> confirm it. From the images, one guy looks about 80 and the other 70,
>> not
>> the impression I get from their lively and sometimes controversial
>> interactions.
>
> Thank you for your unkind words. I just turned 65. Chris is
> considerably younger, but I don't know his age and wouldn't reveal it
> if I did.

Well, you look at least 75 in the image. The color is way off in that image
and I suppose if saturation was added, you'd look more your age.

> Suppose, for the sake of argument, that I am 80 years old, or perhaps
> 90. You must have very limited life experience if you think that such a
> person cannot have a "lively" interaction with the world.

When I visit the elderly realm, I see two things generally: either 1) people
doing very well for their age (one 85 year old I know walks 5 mi/ day) or 2)
people doing poorly (the vast majority of those I see at 80+). So, my
experience is not limited, but realistic.

I would
> recommend a visit to the Iridium Jazz Club at Broadway & 51st, where
> 93-year-old Les Paul plays two sets every Monday night. I wonder how
> well you will be performing at 93!

For every exception, we have at least four non-exceptions not doing so well.
If you look hard enough, you can find exceptions to every rule.

I'll bet that I am doing a _lot_ of
> things that would surprise any person with a sufficiently high level of
> ignorance.

I don't know you, so perhaps, perhaps not. Whatever you're doing would have
to be compared with the majority of people at your age to find out if your
activities are surprising.

> This was unexpected. If you are serious in thinking that's not Chris
> and me, why not go to mwaic.com and look at the pictures of the
> presenters? You will see Chris's photo there. And then you might tell
> yourself that since I told the truth about that being Chris on the
> right, maybe I also told the truth about that being me on the left. Or
> you could look at Facebook or davidillig.com or the photo at the top of
> this page <http://www.primordial-light.com/technique.html>.

Anything on the web can be faked, even to the extremes you're speaking of.

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yourmommycalled

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On Jul 2, 8:09 pm, "The Slammer" <slammers...@bam.net> wrote:
> "Martin R. Howell" <martinhow...@ilikestarsandyoudotoo.com> wrote in messagenews:e1gq4596k476s9ud4...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:46:49 -0400, "The Slammer" <slammers...@bam.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >>"Davoud" <s...@sky.net> wrote in message

> >>news:010720092040111400%st...@sky.net...
> >>> ... at the Midwest Astro-Imaging Conference, where Chris was a
> >>> presenter and I was a rapt listener. And what a pleasure it was to meet
> >>> Chris!
>
> >>> Photo of this historic meeting at
> >>> <http://www.primordial-light.com/mwaic0627.html>.
>
> >>> Davoud
>
> >>Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber?
>
> > Either one of them is smarter on their dumbest day than you will ever
> > be on your smartest day.
>
> Really?  Well, how about I throw a little integration/ differentiation at
> them and see how they do, or some organic/inorganic chemistry.  The latter
> stops most folks in their tracks fast.  Yes, I think it would be an
> interesting challenge.
>
>  Plus, each have achieved something in life.
>
> > Have you?
>
> And what might that be?  "Davoud" spends most of his time here blasting this
> one or that one with his quite opinionated discussion.  Hard to tell if he's
> achieved anything to speak of.  As for Chris, I'm uncertain, although his
> conversations are far more factual, for the most part, than Davoud's.

Hmm Integration/Differentiion is discussed in the first part of
Calculus-I which is taught to most high school seniors except where
"creation science" is taught. What is difficult about Calc-I??? Based
on 35 years teaching and doing research at a major US university, the
only people who have trouble with organic chemistry are the doctor-
wanna-be's. So why do you think a ordinary educated high-school senior
would have troubles when you "throw a little integration/


differentiation at them and see how they do, or some organic/inorganic

chemistry. " Oh I get it!!! You came a creation "we call creation
science because we make it up as we go" science state and you still
think Algebra is hard and dinosaurs and people roamed the earth
together. He Ed and Lin here is another believer

The Slammer

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Jul 3, 2009, 10:30:48 PM7/3/09
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"yourmommycalled" <mommy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Hmm Integration/Differentiion is discussed in the first part of
Calculus-I which is taught to most high school seniors except where

"creation science" is taught...."

True for the first part of your statement, however the subject is NOT taught
to MOST high school seniors, only a very few. Also, I don't know where you
get the "creation science" term and what relevance that has to whether or
not the teaching of Calculus occurs.

"What is difficult about Calc-I??? Based
on 35 years teaching and doing research at a major US university, the
only people who have trouble with organic chemistry are the doctor-

wanna-be's.... "

Again, I don't know where you get this.... opinion... as this is your
opinion. Doctors as well as anyone else can run into problems with organic
chemistry. Depends a LOT on where you take it, who teaches it, and what
text is used.

"So why do you think a ordinary educated high-school senior
would have troubles when you "throw a little integration/
differentiation at them and see how they do, or some organic/inorganic

chemistry. "......."

Well, for one, Calculus in high school mostly does *not* apply to an
"ordinary" high school senior. In fact, a lot of college prep students
don't take it either while in high school. My response wasn't to them
directly, but in response to the challenge someone made to me regarding
them. However, indirectly my response was to them also.

"Oh I get it!!! You came a creation "we call creation
science because we make it up as we go" science state and you still
think Algebra is hard and dinosaurs and people roamed the earth
together. He Ed and Lin here is another believer"

Interesting how you keep redirecting your answers to "creation" issues,
apparently something you're not comfortable with yourself. BTW, even if a
science is taught in a "creation" environment, that doesn't mean it isn't
taught properly by any stretch of the imagination. Ever read "Advanced
Chemisty In Creation"? Also, matter of factly, algebra can be difficult at
first until it is understood, and I won't touch the dinosaurs/people issue
as that is something best left to another group. I have not stated my
opinion one way or the other here, so no relevance to these "Ed" or "Lin"
individuals.

Most of what you wrote was irrelevant and failed to address the scope of the
previous discussion/ responses.

Rick

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:47:43 PM7/6/09
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"Davoud" <st...@sky.net> wrote in message
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> Davoud wrote:
> These things are not inexpensive @ $60 per month, but when we're on the
> road my wife and I agree that it's worth every penny. If I recall, the
> wireless was more $10 or so per day at the Marriott, so there was $30
> of my $60, and I saved another $40 earlier in June.

Marriott hasn't charged for in room WiFi since 2004 and started offering
free WiFi in its lobby in 2007. Even budget and cheapo hotels and motels
offer free WiFi these days.

Rick

Chris L Peterson

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Jul 8, 2009, 1:51:44 AM7/8/09
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:47:43 GMT, "Rick" <ri...@nospammers.not> wrote:

> Marriott hasn't charged for in room WiFi since 2004 and started offering
> free WiFi in its lobby in 2007. Even budget and cheapo hotels and motels
> offer free WiFi these days.

The Marriott in Hoffman Estates, where most of the MWAIC attendees
stayed, charges $9.95 per day for WiFi access.

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