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PRINCETON, N.J. -- (UPL) -- Larry
King will moderate Friday night's seance
debate between the late, great Immanuel
Velikovsky and the late Charles Darwin,
CNN announced today.
"It'll be the very first time I've had
two dead guests on my show, although
I've interviewed countless brain-dead
politicians and con artists over the years,"
said King..
Velikovsky was the pioneer in proving
that earth had been subjected to monu-
mental catastrophes in the long-ago past
while Darwin was long a proponent of
a tranquil earth that snoozed along
peacefully for billions, if not zillions, of
years.
The deceased also will debate the
bullshit theory of the evolution of man.
Velikovsky will elaborate on Ed
Conrad's discoveries of petrified
HUMAN remains between coal veins
in Pennsylvania'a anthracite region,
confirming that man -- in almost our
present form, although about 20 percent
larger --couldn't possibly evolve the way
that Chuck had long insisted.
< "It's just too bad that Ed Conrad
himself can't be here because he's
having transplant brain surgery that
morning," said King.
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> A few choice tidbits from the book, "Mankind in Amnesia,"
> by the late, great Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky:
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"But he (Charles Darwin) saw these animals,
their bones splintered, heaped in the strangest
assemblages -- giant sloths and mastodons together
with birds and mice.
<
He had to forget these pictures of disaster in order
to invent a theory of a peaceful earth unshaken in its
entirety . . . (but) he could not pass over it in silence
in 'Origin of Species'.
<
"He wrote: 'The extinction of species has been involved
in the most gratuitous mystery . . . No one can have
marveled more than I have done at the extinction
of the species.'
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"Darwin concluded: 'Certainly, no fact in the long history
of the world is so startling as the wide and repeated
extermination of its inhabitants'."
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Quoting Eisely, when at the University of Kansas in 1943,
quoting an observer of an awe-inspiring scene spread all
over Alaska:
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"... in certain regions of Alaska the bones of these extinct
animals lie so thickly scattered that there can be no question
of human handiwork involved.
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"Though man was on the scene of the final perishing,
his was not, then, the appetite nor the capacity for such
giant slaughter."
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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"These remains were obviously heaped together in single
actions of nature . . . Alfred Russel Wallace, who
simultaneously with Darwin announced the theory
of natural selection, in puzzlement drew the attention
of the scientific world to the Siwalik hills, at the foot
of the Himalayas, their several hundred miles of length
practically packed with bones of animals . . .
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"It seems impossible to attribute the phenomenon
to the unaided efforts of man. In this great carnage
are myriads of animals, limb torn from limb, in great
heaps, over tens of miles, mixed with splintered trees."
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In 1963, the editors of American Behavioral Scientist
magazine were convinced of the merits of Dr. Immanuel
Velikovsky's science -- contained in "Worlds in Collision"
and "Earth in Upheaval," published in the early 1950s --
and were aware of the mushroom cloud of denial that had
been generated from within the scientific community.
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The editors considered these events to be of major
importance to the history of science.
<
Therefore, they displayed tremendous courage by devoting
their September 1963 issue to defending Velikovsky.
<
It contained three papers dealing with the Velikovsky
controversy -- by Ralph Juergens, Livio Stecchini and
publisher Alfred de Grazia, as well as a paper submitted
by Velikovsky himself.
<
Three years later -- in 1966 -- this edition of American
Behavioral Scientist wound up as a hard-cover book entitled
"The Velikovsky Affair: The Warfare of Science and Scientism," edited
by de Grazia and published by University Books Inc., New Hyde Park,
N.Y.
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> "THE VELIKOVSKY AFFAIR"
> Foreward
> (By Alfred de Grazia)
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In 1950, a book called Worlds in Collision, by Dr.
Immanuel Velikovsky, gave rise to a controversy in
scientific and intellectual circles about scientific
theories and the sociology of science.
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Dr. Velikovsky's historical and cosmological concepts,
bolstered by his acknowledged scholarship, constituted
a formidable assault on certain established theories
of astronomy, geology and historical biology, and on
the heroes of those sciences.
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Newton, himself, and Darwin were being challenged, and
indeed the general orthodoxy of an ordered universe.
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The substance of Velikovsky's ideas is briefly presented
in the first chapter of this book.
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What must be called the scientific establishment rose in
arms, not only against the new Velikovsky theories but
against the man himself.
<
Efforts were made to block dissemination of Dr. Velikovsky's
ideas, and even to punish supporters of his investigations.
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> Universities, scientific societies, publishing houses,
> the popular press were approached and threatened; social
> pressures and professional sanctions were invoked
> to control public opinion.
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There is no doubt that in a totalitarian society, not only
would Dr. Velikovsky's reputation have been at stake, but
also his right to pursue his inquiry, and perhaps his own
personal safety.
<
As it was, the "establishment" succeeded in building a wall
of unfavorable sentiment around him: to thousands of scholars the name
of Velikovsky bears the taint of fantasy,
science-fiction and publicity.
<
He could not be suppressed entirely. In the next few years
he published three more books. He carried on a large
correspondence. And he was helped by friends and by
a large general public composed of persons outside of the
establishments of science.
<
The probings of spacecraft tended to confirm -- never to disprove --
his arguments.
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> Eventually, the venomous aspects of the controversy,
> the efforts at suppression, the campaign of vilification
> loomed almost as large, in their consequences to science,
> as the original issue.
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Social scientists, who had been generally aware of Dr. Velikovsky's
work, now found themselves in the thick of
the conflict. The involvement of the social and behavioral sciences in
the scientific theories of Velikovsky was higher than had been earlier
appreciated.
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The social sciences are the basis of Velikvsky's work: despite his
proficiency in the natural sciences, it is by
the use of the methodology of social science that Velikovsky launched
his challenge to accepted cosmological theories.
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No one pretends that this method is adequate. New forms
of interdisciplinary research are needed to wed, for example, the
study of myth with the study of meteorites.
<
Nor does one have to agree that Velikovsky is the greatest technician
of mythology, even while granting his great conceptual and
synthesizing powers.
<
Whatever the scientific substance, the controversy itself could not be
avoided or dismissed by behavioral science.
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The problem of sicence is one of the agitating problems
of the twentieth century. The issues are clear: Who determines
scientific truth: Who are its high priests, and what is their warrant?
How do they establish their canons? What effects do they have on the
freedom of inquiry, and on public interest?
<
In the end, some judgment must be passed upon the behavior of the
scientific world and, if adverse, some remedies must be
proposed . . .
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It is our hope that the publication of these papers in the present
volume (a revised and enlarged version) will make
it less easy for Velikovsky's new work to be suppressed, or lightly
dismissed.
<
We hope, too, that they will help scientists and interested laymen
everywhere to rehearse the problems and to reform the errors of the
vast enterprise of science.
<
< END OF FOREWARD
>
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Ed Conrad
http://www.edconrad.com
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< PSEUDOBIRDS STILL FLYING HIGH
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TRUTH FINALLY CATCHING UP TO PERPETRATORS
OF DECEIT, DECEPTION, COLLUSION & CONSPIRACY
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> MAN AS OLD AS COAL
> All Specimens Found Between Anthracite Veins
<
Strata geologically dated at a minimum of 280 million years
<
Here are just a few of the thousands upon thousands of specimens of
petrified bones, teeth and/or even soft organs -- some human --
discovered between two separate anthracite veins in Northeastern
Pennsylvania over the past 28 years.
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HUMAN REMAINS BETWEEN COAL VEINS
CONFIRMS EVOLUTION IS A DEAD HORSE
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http://likethedew.com/img/beating-a-dead-horse.gif
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http://www.edconrad.com/pics/FINGERSx.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/OldestHumanSkull.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/z11calv.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Skullx.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/skullb.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/SkullBoulderSide.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/z8femur.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/FOSSILS08/HumanFemur.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/HumanBrain.jpg
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http://www.edconrad.com/pics/newtibia.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/HumanJaw3.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/TestResults.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/FirstDiscovery.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/OldestTool.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/MoreFossils.jpg
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http://www.edconrad.com/pics/InSlate3.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/InSlate2.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/InSlate11.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/GallBladder1.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/GallBladder2.jpg
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http://www.edconrad.com/pics/GallBladdery.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Scorpion.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/PetrifiedPP.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/newtibia.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/HumanJaw3.jpg
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< WHERE THESE BEAUTIES WERE FOUND
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Here's a map showing a spectacular cross-section of coal
veins beneath Mahanoy City, Pa. It reveals the impact
of an asteroid, meteor or comet having struck the earth
and offering the uundeniable physical evidence
of a catastrophe.
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Some of the URLs below showing the result of the impact
can be enlarged by clicking on them.
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< THE ANATOMY OF A CATACLYSM
< "Oh, the Humanity"
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http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=22&f=1472383101&p=61
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http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=22&f=1472392315&p=62
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http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=22&f=1472383097&p=63
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< OLDEST HUMAN SKULL EVER FOUND
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http://www.edconrad.com/images/z11calv.jpg
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Wilton M. Krogman, one of the world's foremost experts on human
anatomy, holds what he had identified as a petrified human calvarium,
a skull with the eye sockets broken off, that was discovered between
coal veins.
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http://www.edconrad.com/images/krogwskull.jpg
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Krogman is shown at his desk at the world-famous Cooper Clinic in
Lancaster, Pa., where moments later he beckoned a colleague -- a
medical doctor -- to examine what he told him was "the oldest human
skull ever found."
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A CATscan was performed on this specimen with favorable results.
<
http://www.edconrad.com/images/catcalv.jpg
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Meanwhile, Haversian canals were identified in the
cell structure, the tell-tale sign of bone. And dried
blood was found on the specimen during testing at
American Medical Laboratories in Chantilly, Va.
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This is the official report from AML which had
performed Calculus Analysis by Crystallography.
The final report, dated April 21, 2000, was issued
by Dr. Nathan Sherman, director of laboratories.
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> "The specimen consists of 1 irregularly
> shaped, brown calculus weighing less
> than 0.0010 grams and measuring 1X1X0.5
> mm. No nidus is observed. The calculi
> indicates a composition of dried blood
> intermingled with a few small crystals
> resembling calcium oxalate dihydrate."
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http://www.edconrad.com/images/z12calv.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/images/z13cav.jpg
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< SEM COMPARISON OF SPECIMEN THAT
< TOP ANATOMIST IDENTIFIED AS A TIBIA
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http://www.edconrad.com/pics/newtibia.jpg
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Scanning Electron Microscopy of internal surface of the fossil that
Krogman identified as a tibia. Both photos were taken at 2,000X.
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http://www.edconrad.org/images/bones.jpg
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This is the specimen that Paul PZ Myers, then of Temple U. and now a
disgrace to the University of Minnesota, along
with Andrew MacRae, then at the University of Calgary, had "tested."
<
MacRae had been entrusted with a specimen that Krogman
identified as a ibia, then -- in cahoots with Myers -- had
fraudulently "prepared" a ground section from a rock or
concretion and displayed the internal structure on MacRae's
Web page.
<
It was a rather enterprising but unfortunately feeble effort
to conceal the presence of Haversian canals that exist
in the genuine specimen. The Haversian canals confirm
it indeed is B-O-N-E and prove beyond all reasonable doubt
that Myers and MacRae are an insult and a disgrace to every
honest, courageous, truth-seeking scientist who ever lived
especially Copernicus,Galileo, Kepler. Immanuel
Velikovsky and, in particular, Ed Conrad).
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www.edconrad.com/pics/Dartboard.jpg
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RESEARCH ON PETRIFIED HUMAN CALVARIUM
AND FEMUR DONE BY LIN LIANGTAI OF TAIWAN
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THE PETRIFIED HUMAN CALVARIUM
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/z11calv.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/OldestHumanSkull.JPG
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CALVARIUM REPORT by Lin Liangtai of Taiwan
http://groups.google.com/group/idfossil/web/new-calvarium-article?hl=en
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PETRIFIED HUMAN FEMUR
http://www.edconrad.com/FOSSILS08/HumanFemur.jpg
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FEMUR REPORT by Lin Liangtai of Taiwan
http://groups.google.com/group/idfossil/web/femur-article?hl=en
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HUMAN TOE (a very costly test)
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Here is a CT video of the Carboniferous human toe (discovered by Ed
Conrad between coal veins) that disproves the theory of Evolution).
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http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=22&f=1472406809&p=61
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< Here are 120 micrographs of the human toe:
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http://www.wretch.cc/album/album.php?id=lin440315&book=14&page=1
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Lin Liangtai's Web Page
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/lin440315
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DEATH DOES NOT EXIST
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Miracle.jpg
http://edconrad.com/lifeafterdeath
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Ed Conrad (rear) and his wolf named Blue.
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/EdnBlue.JPG
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Ed Conrad's e-mail address:
edcon...@edconrad.com
(Replace ... with rad)
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(No explosives inside your attachments, PLEASE)
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Ed Conrad
http://www.edconrad.com
Man as Old as Coal
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On Dec 14, 4:12 pm, Intrepid <Intrepid...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> ==========================>            NEWS BULLETIN
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>  PRINCETON, N.J. -- (UPL) Larry King

< will moderate Friday night's seance
> debate between the late, great Immanuel
> Velikovsky and the late Charles Darwin,
> CNN announced today.
>      "It'll be the very first time I've had
> two dead guests on my show, although
> I've interviewed countless brain-dead
> politicians and con artists over the years,"
> said The King.
>
<
Larry King did himself proud last night. That was quite a show.
<
I thought the ghost of Dr. Velikovsky beat the living -- I mean,
deceased -- shit out of Charlie Darwin, especially when he
had Chuck stuttering like a machine gun when trying to answer
one of the good Doc's quesions about Ed Conrad and his
mind-boggling discoveries of human body parts between
coal veins.
<
The highlight, I suppose, was when they almost came to
invisible blows right near the end. This was not nice at all.
<
It's just a shame that the terrible winter snowstorm caused
the transmission satellite in space to seize up, causing
most of the country to see a crappy rerun of Howie Mandell.
<
Mary Mary
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