One more views question and that's it-I promise

Michael Ruggeri

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Jun 3, 2013, 12:38:58 PM6/3/13

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OK, I think you are all saying that if I post to the google groups server, that everyone using these other servers will see it, not just the few who connect through google groups. So if I continue posting at google groups, there is no problem with distribution. Is that correct? I have a backlog of posts I have held back until I got a handle on this question.

I was worried that only 2 or 3 people were reading posts. Now I understand that the views are much larger.

Mike Ruggeri

Trond Engen

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Jun 3, 2013, 3:09:51 PM6/3/13

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Michael Ruggeri:

That's right. And there's no way to know how large the real readership
is. Not incredibly large, though, since the group has been ridden by
endless discussions with trolls for years.

Also: In situations like this you can reply to the replies you get, or
follow up to your own posts, rather than opening new threads. That makes
it easier to keep track.

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Trond Engen

Eric Stevens

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Jun 3, 2013, 5:30:08 PM6/3/13

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The world is dotted with news servers. From time to time (hourly or
sometimes less) they compare notes with their neighbours and update
themselves with whatever is new. That way a new article will spread
around the world very rapidly. Subscribers are posting new articles to
various servers all the time and copies of these are being
interchanged and passed along in an almost continuous process.

In the context of Usenet, Google is just one more server. Some
articles start with Google and hopefully copies spread from there.
Other articles start a long way from Google but, equally hopefully,
copies should end up with Google in short order.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

Michael Ruggeri

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Jun 3, 2013, 6:06:16 PM6/3/13

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Thanks guys, that is appreciated,

Mike

Matt Giwer

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Jun 3, 2013, 11:01:20 PM6/3/13

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Ask ALL the questions you need to ask to understand it enough for what
you want to know. If you get too technical someone here will look up a
technical newsgroup or two on the subject and direct you to them. You
can go so far as to set up your own news server to talk to your ISP's
news server if you want.

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Wed, May 01, 2013 5:47:27 PM

Whiskers

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Jun 4, 2013, 9:36:19 AM6/4/13

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I've done that, but to connect with Individual.net and Datemas.de and
Gmane.org, so as to help overcome my ISP's stupid 'traffic shaping' which
blocks all usenet (NNTP) traffic between 8AM and 8PM from Monday to Friday.
I can store up messages received overnight, and store up any responses I
write during the day (such as this one) while my ISP blocks the
connections.

It's a bit geeky, but not all that difficult.

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Matt Giwer

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Jun 9, 2013, 1:31:01 PM6/9/13

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Isn't that what cron events are for?

I had an asshole flood-posting using my headers so I added unique info
to each header based upon the body content which made that impossible.
At the time I was only dealing with my ISP not being passed off to
newshosting so I did not run into unrelated problems.

Whiskers

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Jun 9, 2013, 3:41:28 PM6/9/13

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On 2013-06-09, Matt Giwer <jul...@tampabaynever.rr.com> wrote:
> On 6/4/2013 9:36 AM, Whiskers wrote:
>> On 2013-06-04, Matt Giwer <jul...@tampabaynever.rr.com> wrote:

[...]

>>> Ask ALL the questions you need to ask to understand it enough for what
>>> you want to know. If you get too technical someone here will look up a
>>> technical newsgroup or two on the subject and direct you to them. You
>>> can go so far as to set up your own news server to talk to your ISP's
>>> news server if you want.
>>
>> I've done that, but to connect with Individual.net and Datemas.de and
>> Gmane.org, so as to help overcome my ISP's stupid 'traffic shaping' which
>> blocks all usenet (NNTP) traffic between 8AM and 8PM from Monday to Friday.
>> I can store up messages received overnight, and store up any responses I
>> write during the day (such as this one) while my ISP blocks the
>> connections.
>>
>> It's a bit geeky, but not all that difficult.
>
> Isn't that what cron events are for?

I use cron to time my local news-server's connections with the upstream
public news-servers. Another cron job shuts down the computer at 8AM if
I've left it running to fetch new newsgroup articles while I sleep.

> I had an asshole flood-posting using my headers so I added unique info
> to each header based upon the body content which made that impossible.
> At the time I was only dealing with my ISP not being passed off to
> newshosting so I did not run into unrelated problems.

It's usually possible to get their NSPs to withdraw posting privileges from
such people.

Matt Giwer

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Jun 11, 2013, 2:23:34 AM6/11/13

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Except this guy did the Hollywood thing and did route through anonymous
servers. I found him eventually. He owned the ISP and his family owns a
big chunk of Bell Canada.

It was educational. A modestly garbled recounting is here.
http://www.giwersworld.org/computers/newsagent.phtml

The Revd

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Jun 14, 2013, 5:23:47 PM6/14/13

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In article <2_2tt.16328$Zv....@newsfe08.iad>,
Matt Giwer <jul...@tampabaynever.rr.com> wrote:

[crap]

DIE already, you ancient, boring, redundant, rotting
sack of shite... DIE!!

Matt Giwer

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Jun 17, 2013, 5:38:08 AM6/17/13

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There is a mature, adult, rational response if there ever was one. You
need to grow up and get off twitter.