Q , anybody know Egyptian pyramids distances apart at the peaks , capstones
kangarooistan
can find info about the distances between the 3 pyramids at Giza
i have their measurements , but not the distances apart
Especially from peak to peak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giza_pyramid_complex_%28map%29.svg
i could calculate the scale from this link assuming the scale is
correct
But it may be nice to have a accurate distance
Can you offer any advise , am I overlooking the info ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Khufu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_pyramid_complex
kanga
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Peter Alaca
Use Google Earth's measuring tool.
kangarooistan
i have seen it done but not sure how
Ill try and read up , its about a km using the scale and a ruler on
the screen
ill read up google earth
kangarooistan
Any tips on how to use google earth to measure distances ??
Peter Alaca
There is a ruler in the toolbar. Click it, then click one point,
then click a second point, and read the distance in the unit you like.
JerryT
> I was doing a bit of research and wondered if anybody knows where I
> can find info about the distances between the 3 pyramids at Giza
>
> i have their measurements , but not the distances apart
>
> Especially from peak to peak
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giza_pyramid_complex_%28map%29.svg
>
> i could calculate the scale from this link assuming the scale is
> correct
>
> But it may be nice to have a accurate distance
>
>
> kanga
> ======
http://www.ronaldbirdsall.com/gizeh/corrections/s92.html
JT
kangarooistan
> kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> 22/12/2009 15:41 wrote:
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> > On Dec 22, 9:42 pm, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I was doing a bit of research and wondered if anybody knows where I
> >> can find info about the distances between the 3 pyramids at Giza
>
> >> i have their measurements , but not the distances apart
>
> >> Especially from peak to peak
>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giza_pyramid_complex_%28map%29.svg
>
> >> i could calculate the scale from this link assuming the scale is
> >> correct
>
> >> But it may be nice to have a accurate distance
>
>
> >> kanga
> >> ======
>
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> > Any tips on how to use google earth to measure distances ??
>
> >http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/1982
>
> There is a ruler in the toolbar. Click it, then click one point,
> then click a second point, and read the distance in the unit you like.
many thanks Peter , I will give it a go
YES mate , I am a dummy
kanga
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kangarooistan
> On 22 Dec, 12:42, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I was doing a bit of research and wondered if anybody knows where I
> > can find info about the distances between the 3 pyramids at Giza
>
> > i have their measurements , but not the distances apart
>
> > Especially from peak to peak
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giza_pyramid_complex_%28map%29.svg
>
> > i could calculate the scale from this link assuming the scale is
> > correct
>
> > But it may be nice to have a accurate distance
>
>
> > kanga
> > ======
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>
THANKS JT
This link looks very interesting
Ill read up over the holidays
Im interested in WHY the pyramids were placed where they are , and WHY
several minor adjustments seem to have been made
I assume the adjustments probably indicate some Astrological
measurements were involved and that the Pyramids may have been used in
the land surveys after annual flooding , amongst other religious
reasons too , I get the impression the Pyramids may have been
scientific measuring tools as well as other possible reasons
the precision and detail seem to indicate they were not placed by
accident , nor built to random heights
more particularly I noticed this exact same height ratio ,
sequence , , and alignment Nth Sth , , and position , matches a
site I am investigating in south australia , and it seems its no
coincidence of nature either , but lacking the degree of refinement of
construction ,seems HEIGHT and position was very important to them
though from my observations
granted the celestial bodies would be seen differently from the
southern hemisphere , mathematicians trained in the ancient world
would all probably have studied the then EXPERTS in the field ,
EGYPTIAN ideas MAY have spread and been copied
Dont laugh yet mate , this site continues to yield more and more
evidence every day , there is NIL doubt there was indeed ancient
mining activity in the area between 5000 years ago , until about 2500
years ago mining cassiterite and gold on a truly VAST scale
Thanks for the link mate
kanga
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Kendall K Down
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kangarooistan <kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Im interested in WHY the pyramids were placed where they are , and WHY
> several minor adjustments seem to have been made
The availability of suitable ground for the foundations, plus ease of
access from the valley.
Ken Down
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> > Im interested in WHY the pyramids were placed where they are , and WHY
> > several minor adjustments seem to have been made
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> The availability of suitable ground for the foundations, plus ease of
> access from the valley.
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I suspect the site may have been chosen based on some practicele
reasons
But the position , hieght alignment and distance apart may have had
several other possible uses
Survey of land after flooding was done annually
It seems astrological study was used to set calendars and in some ways
I suspect the Pyramids and obelisks played a part
to do triangulation you need acurate measurement of 2 points a known
distance apart
visible from where you wish to identify boundaries , like in land
survey
im no expert at this , but I assume the ancient Egyptians were , I
assume pyramids and obelisks were made to specific heights and placed
in specific positions for some reason
I know the ancient Egyptians understood how to measure things very
accurately
I assume some of this skill was shared over time around the world
The Pyramids and skills and canals and even boats buried in the
Pyramids indicate they had everything they needed to travel anywhere
on earth , and I assume they probably did , granted their HQ was in
Egypt so I don't expect to see pyramids all around the world but the
possibility exists we may see evidence of triangulation if they
erected or created two or more points to measure new sites
I have identified several major earth works in south australia that
pre date white settlement by a very long way and are not of
Aboriginal origin
there is now no doubt at all there was VAST mining settlement in the
area over 2500 years ago that was mined for several thousand years
literally moving millions of tons of earth
My present research centres on the mountain called mount Barker in
south australia and the " possibility "of human manipulation of the
several peaks as seen in some pics
It seems likely the southern most " peak" is man made , a very long
time ago , it is possible to see it online in some pics ,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Mt_barker_from_mt_lofty.jpg
WHO and WHY , seem related to the VAST amount of mining activity seen
in the areas within sight of Mount Barker , probably some form of
measuring tool ?? not sure , but Im happy to check it out further just
in case , the more research I do the more evidence of the ancient
mining appears and sooner or later the site will reveal its secrets
http://stable.toolserver.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Mount_Barker,_South_Australia¶ms=35_04_S_138_51_E_region:AU-SA_type:city%2825000%29
The centre " peak " seems manipulated to height , but the one on the
right is an made almost completely rubble , almost nothing grows on
it
the peaks are very closely matched to the 3 pyramids at Giza as to
height difference , alignment to each other , and north south
alignment , and a possible link to the highest point on near by
Kangaroo Island has IMHO clear signs of human manipulation too , they
have VISIBLE earth ramps leading up to them a km long , why manipulate
the height of hills using hundreds of tons of earth and rock in the
middle of no where 2500 years ago
Human occupation of Kangaroo Island ceased about 2,500 years ago
As did 90% of the human activity on the near by mainland , according
to , " Midden deposition rates " , a large increase in human activity
occurred during the period called , "The Bronze age "
the Kartan stone tools found in the area are exactly the same as those
found at the unfinished Obelisk site in Egypt
the local Aboriginal tribes / languages do seem unusually similar to
those from the middle east 2500years ago
google , Martu , Kartan , Peramangk , karna [ phoenetian ]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kartan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peramangk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaurna
The Kaurna people are a group of Indigenous Australians whose
traditional lands include the area around the Adelaide Plains of South
Australia. Pronunciation of the word "Kaurna" varies slightly by the
background and origin of the speaker; the most common is [ga:na],
sometimes [gauna], [gauɲa] or, less often, [khana].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia
Phoenicia (Phoenician: ��������, Canaan or Kana'an,
there is nil doubt somebody mined vast quantities of tin and gold in
the area 2500 years ago and were here for several thousand years in
modest numbers ,
they would have left some evidence in the local peoples
examination of the local peoples languages and genetics leaves no
doubt the ancient miners were from the middle east
ancient mine sites from that era yield very very little artifacts
other than earth works and waste heaps , but there is a growing body
of evidence that will one day confirm the identity of who was
responsible for the many unusual earth works / mines seen in the area
eventually
kanga
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Nomen Nescio
The pyramids' "peak to peak" measurements are listed on this link
http://www.legon.demon.co.uk/dimens.htm, assuming "centre to
centre" and "apex to apex" (in plan view) mean the same thing.
Assuming that it does, then the following data is all you need to
compute the "peak to peak" distances:
Axial Distances between the Centres of the Three
Pyramids, as stated by Petrie in Inches
From N to S E to W
Centre of 1st to Centre of 2nd Pyramid 13931.6 13165.8
Centre of 2nd to Centre of 3rd Pyramid 15170.4 9450.2
Centre of 1st to Centre of 3rd Pyramid 29102.0 22616.0
See also:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/gpsp.html
http://www.legon.demon.co.uk/gizaplan.htm
http://www.kolumbus.fi/lea.tedder/OKAD/Gizaplan.htm
http://vejprty.com/gizaplan.htm
I've read that there are detailed wireframes (3d) of the Giza
pyramid complex on the internet, but I haven't been able to
find them.
--
Jon
Nomen Nescio
before, http://www.ronaldbirdsall.com/gizeh/corrections/s92.html.
Thanks also for that great link. The corrected list looks like this:
Axial Distances between the Centres of the Three
Pyramids, as stated by Petrie, in Inches,
corrected per Stephen Brabin's analysis:
From N E Direct
Centre of 1st to Centre of 2nd Pyramid 13931.6 13165.8 19168.4 at 43d 22m 52s
Centre of 2nd to Centre of 3rd Pyramid 15170.5 9450.2 17873.1 at 31d 55m 12s
Centre of 1st to Centre of 3rd Pyramid 29102.1 22616.0 36856.7 at 37d 51m 06s
I'm still looking for the Giza pyramids complex wireframe on-line, to
get the full 3D data set that can be loaded into a cad program.
--
Jon
Nomen Nescio
and surrounding ancient structures. Then I'll bow out from this
thread unless, or until, invited back in.
I am not satisfied with the usage of the word "axial." Axial to
what, the center of the earth? Or to a imaginary "3d-space" model
without respect to any center of mathematical curvature, or
its gravitational attraction, such as with respect to a surface
location on Earth which has plenty of gravity, or a mathematical
model which has none? Where's the attraction in their model?
--
Jon
kangarooistan
> In <news:4b30e442$0$50672$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl>,
>
>
>
> >kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> 22/12/2009 15:41 wrote:
> >> On Dec 22, 9:42 pm, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I was doing a bit of research and wondered if anybody knows where I
> >>> can find info about the distances between the 3 pyramids at Giza
>
> >>> i have their measurements , but not the distances apart
>
> >>> Especially from peak to peak
>
> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giza_pyramid_complex_%28map%29.svg
>
> >>> i could calculate the scale from this link assuming the scale is
> >>> correct
>
> >>> But it may be nice to have a accurate distance
>
> >>> Can you offer any advise , am I overlooking the info
> >>> iza_pyramid_complex
>
> >>> kanga
> >>> ======
>
> >> Any tips on how to use google earth to measure distances ??
>
> >>http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/1982
>
> >There is a ruler in the toolbar. Click it, then click one point,
> >then click a second point, and read the distance in the unit you like.
>
> centre" and "apex to apex" (in plan view) mean the same thing.
> Assuming that it does, then the following data is all you need to
> compute the "peak to peak" distances:
>
> Axial Distances between the Centres of the Three
> Pyramids, as stated by Petrie in Inches
> From N to S E to W
> Centre of 1st to Centre of 2nd Pyramid 13931.6 13165.8
> Centre of 2nd to Centre of 3rd Pyramid 15170.4 9450.2
> Centre of 1st to Centre of 3rd Pyramid 29102.0 22616.0
>
> See also:
>
>
> I've read that there are detailed wireframes (3d) of the Giza
> pyramid complex on the internet, but I haven't been able to
> find them.
>
> --
Some more really great info
Im not up to speed on the topic , seems a lot of work has been done on
the subject
I have read several of the links and will re read them ALL over the
next few weeks
There is HEAPS of info that may INDEED help explain the most unusual
earth works and mining activity I keep uncovering at the site in South
Australia
There is no NIL doubt the Summit peaks at Mount Barker have been
manipulated and do match the layout as seen in the GIZA Pyramids
i will need to study this in much greater detail , there is more and
more evidence mounting to suggest the ancient miners were using
triangulation skills and mining methods exactly like in ancient
Egypt , and seems Mount Barker was visible to most of them from many
km away , using Egyptian skills and charts / maths / survey tools all
they needed was a base line to work off EXACTLY the same as the scale
used in Egypt
PERHAPS ????
the Mount barker Summit was not man made , but the small peak seen in
pic south of the Summit WAS man made
http://www.desertdreams.com.au/images/summit_east_wide.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Mt_barker_from_mt_lofty.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/10534607.jpg
main mount is natural
http://www.adhills.com.au/tourism/towns/mountbarker/images/Mt_Barker_Summit.jpg
smaller mount seen in some pics IS man made , naturally it is
obscured in photos from north or south
http://www.frogandtoad.com.au/genimages/photos/sasv/barker.gif
and it matches the layout seen here in GIZA , EXACTLY , if your aim
is triangulation for survey / mining , or navigation you need a
baseline
http://www.legon.demon.co.uk/gizaplan.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuth
The concept is used in many practical applications including
navigation, astronomy, mapping, mining and artillery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_trigonometric_functions#Development
Trigonometry is not the work of any one person or nation. Its history
spans thousands of years and has touched every major civilization.
[edit] Early trigonometry
The ancient Egyptians and Babylonians had known of theorems on the
ratios of the sides of similar squares for many centuries. But pre-
Hellenic societies lacked the concept of an angle measure and
consequently, the sides of triangles were studied instead, a field
that would be better called "trilaterometry".[3]
The Babylonian astronomers kept detailed records on the rising and
setting of stars, the motion of the planets, and the solar and lunar
eclipses, all of which required familiarity with angular distances
measured on the celestial sphere.[4] Based on one interpretation of
the Plimpton 322 cuneiform tablet (circa 1900 BC), some have even
asserted that the ancient Babylonians had a table of secants.[5] There
is, however, much debate as to whether it is a table of Pythagorean
triples, a solution of quadratic equations, or a trigonometric table.
The Egyptians, on the other hand, used a primitive form of
trigonometry for building pyramids in the 2nd millennium BC.[4]
Lots more work to do on the theory mate , but its more and more
interesting as I research it more , it may be coincidental , but it
may also explain the MANY anomalies seen in the local geology, that
look EXACTLY like an ancient mine sites and the ONLY evidence to
challenge MY FINDINGS is the so called ," FACT " there was nobody here
back then who could have mined the site
Its very clear there WERE people who had reason and opportunity and
motive to mine the site
We KNOW the methods they used
The EXACT same methods and evidence IS SEEN in South Australian site
and the ancient Egyptian mine sites , FROM THAT ERA
Ill bury my head in the links I have so farfrom you and the others
and test them out on the site , I live in the area and can go examine
the evidence on site in a few hours to " test " my theory , keep me
busy for weeks
MANY thanks Nomen Nescio
So far every last thing fits EXACTLY ,
there is NIL doubt a truly VAST very long life mining enterprise was
INDEED carried out between about 4/ 6000 yrs ago , and ending about
2500 years ago here in south Australia ,
I can not give links YET as the research is still currently being done
BUT watch this site ,it WILL sooner or later turn up as headline
news , once a complete examination is carried out there can be no
other explanation , even though most will continue to LAUGH , based on
THEIR knowledge of history EVERYBODY knows there were no ancient
voyages to Australia
White people discovered Australia a few hundred years ago , It says
so in ALL history books , so WHY bother even looking for things that
must be WRONG
any ancient Egyptian artifacts discovered MUST be forgeries or recent
imports even if they are presented for examination , the POSSIBILITY
of ancient contact is not even considered , if it is "non
aboriginal" , it MUST be very recent , and of NO INTEREST at all ,
BLINDS EVERYBODY FROM EVEN NOTICING THE ANOMALIES RIGHT UNDER THEIR
NOSES
thanks for the links mate , they are really great
kanga
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Saint Ram Bone
> I was doing a bit of research and wondered if anybody knows where I
> can find info about the distances between the 3 pyramids at Giza
>
> i have their measurements , but not the distances apart
>
> Especially from peak to peak
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giza_pyramid_complex_%28map%29.svg
>
> i could calculate the scale from this link assuming the scale is
> correct
>
> But it may be nice to have a accurate distance
>
>
> kanga
> ======
If you are going to measure distances, you should also take into
account ratios. In particular in triangulation to get the absolute
ratios of the various pyramids. You may also look to some celestial
combinations of the ratios in the celestial grid by putting ones self
at the exact latitude and longtitude or the pyramid and looking
straight up at the Zenith on the ancients holiest day. These are old
things, some very good obviously. They were cruel though like modern
humans and they did not know what they were doing in genetics, just
like modern humans. Diseases will soon hit us hard due to widespread
genetics manipulations of farm foods and animals on the farm and in
the laboratory and man.
It is dusty trail to the pyramid and a dusty trail leaving. That is
what I want to do, leave, but where do I go? I am abused by the
government of the USA and I see others are also. We want them dead
for abusing our human rights, for forcing injections, forced medical
procedures, deceptions.
Mobile Audit Club
kangarooistan
> On Dec 22, 5:42 am, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I was doing a bit of research and wondered if anybody knows where I
> > can find info about the distances between the 3 pyramids at Giza
>
> > i have their measurements , but not the distances apart
>
> > Especially from peak to peak
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giza_pyramid_complex_%28map%29.svg
>
> > i could calculate the scale from this link assuming the scale is
> > correct
>
> > But it may be nice to have a accurate distance
>
>
> > kanga
> > ======
>
.
> If you are going to measure distances, you should also take into
> account ratios. In particular in triangulation to get the absolute
> ratios of the various pyramids. You may also look to some celestial
> combinations of the ratios in the celestial grid by putting ones self
> at the exact latitude and longtitude or the pyramid and looking
> straight up at the Zenith on the ancients holiest day.
i note there is a vast debate as to what the angles mean , a thousand
well researched articles are online examining the Egyptian Pyramids
and the possible trigonometric meanings
Im not able to add to the debate as its way outside of my area of
expertise
BUT I not with considerable interest the MANY physical similarities
seen in the Mount Barker summit and the GIZA pyramids
AND the ever increasing number of artifacts that no leave NIL doubt
somebody from the middle east WAS indeed mining in south australia for
several thousand years until they vanished about 2500 years ago
it may take a few more months to document and report the facts , but
there is NIL doubt the Turin Payrus gold Mine IS in South Australia
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AVpOXG2fYkS8ZGNnazl0N3BfMjE4ZjlyZ2JnZG4&hl=en