NJ Ban on Marine Fish????!!!!

[Coralights]

I understand that legislation may soon be introduced in NJ to ban the sale
of Marine fish as they did in the case of turtles. Any information out
there?

[Wayne A. Powell]

I am interested to see if anyone in Canada has had experience importing
live rock, live sand, or animals from the U.S. or elsewhere? I have heard
that there asre some import restrictions and codes used for various kinds
of rock, but I would really like to find out more. Do any of the Florida
Exporters specialize in Canadian orders (especially re rock and sand)?
Thanks!

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[Blair Cribb]

Hi Wayne,

I was interested in importing live rock into Canada.
I checked with Fisheries and Oceans Canada, who referred me to Ministry of Natural Resources
for Ontario.

The gentleman I talked to there indicated that there were no problems importing tropical
marine species into Canada. MNR are more concerned with fish and plants escaping into
the environment and proliferating. Since tropical marine species will not survive the
cold waters of Canada, this was not a concern.

I asked him to put this in writing, however he indicated it was not necessary.

I would be more concerned about having shipments cleared through customs in a timely manner.
If it takes a couple of days to do so (which is typical), you'll be left with a
pile of worthless rubble.

Your best bet would be to carry it with you accross the border. My plans are to pick up some
live rock, next time I visit Florida.

The quality of live rock I have seen from Florida seems to be deteriorating of late.

Does anyone know if the Marshall Islands, Tonga, or Schalles (that island off Africa) is worth
the extra money?

regards, Blair

[Wayne A. Powell]

In article <Cwrn9...@microsoft.com>
bla...@microsoft.com (Blair Cribb) writes:

> I would be more concerned about having shipments cleared through customs in a timely manner.
> If it takes a couple of days to do so (which is typical), you'll be left with a
> pile of worthless rubble.
>
> Your best bet would be to carry it with you accross the border. My plans are to pick up some
> live rock, next time I visit Florida.
>
> The quality of live rock I have seen from Florida seems to be deteriorating of late.
>
> Does anyone know if the Marshall Islands, Tonga, or Schalles (that island off Africa) is worth
> the extra money?

Yes, I have heard that importing fish is not a problem if you pay the duty
and GST (and PST too I think, how unfair!) It is easier if you transport
it yourself, but since I can't go down there, I was wondering if anyone up
in Canada had experience importing via mail order. The time lag in
arrival and customs clearance could be a major pain.

One problem I heard about importing live rock is that customs officers are
fairly arbitrary and the rock is not shipped in water to save weight.
There is then some question as to whether you are importing terrestrial
creatures for which they screen. I have heard of orders being turned back
at the border. I was wondering if there was a way to get proper
documentation to ensure their safe arrival and import.

I am also curious about the availability of Pacific rock since this is
more appropriate to the type of biotope I would like to simulate.

Thanks all!

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[Joseph S. Sellinger]

In article <36hrcb$h...@steel.interlog.com>, ror...@interlog.com (Wayne A. Powell) writes:
|>
|> Yes, I have heard that importing fish is not a problem if you pay the duty
|> and GST (and PST too I think, how unfair!) It is easier if you transport
|> it yourself, but since I can't go down there, I was wondering if anyone up
|> in Canada had experience importing via mail order. The time lag in
|> arrival and customs clearance could be a major pain.
|>
|> One problem I heard about importing live rock is that customs officers are
|> fairly arbitrary and the rock is not shipped in water to save weight.
|> There is then some question as to whether you are importing terrestrial
|> creatures for which they screen. I have heard of orders being turned back
|> at the border. I was wondering if there was a way to get proper
|> documentation to ensure their safe arrival and import.
|>
|> I am also curious about the availability of Pacific rock since this is
|> more appropriate to the type of biotope I would like to simulate.
|>

Here is another idea. If you are close to Windsor and Detroit why not
just take a road trip to Tropicorium. 20080 Inkster Rd. Romulus, MI.

The store is great. Call ahead as they are only open to the public on
fri, sat, and sunday. They have lots of rock and coral.
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