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M Winther  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 3:51 am
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From: "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:51:24 +0200
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 3:51 am
Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
I have since I wrote this discovered that Donald I. Templer discusses
this theory in Mankind Quarterly, 'The Comparison of Mean IQ in Muslim
and Non-Muslim Countries', Mankind Quarterly, Vol. 50, No. 3 (Spring
2010), pp.188-209.
http://www.mankindquarterly.org/spring2010_templer.html

It is becoming more and more evident that a racial consciousness is
reawakening. These findings mustn't be allowed to metamorphose into
vulgar racialism and nationalism, like earlier in history. Only by
allowing such facts in public consciousness, there to be interpreted
correctly, can misinterpretations of vulgar nature be avoided. We
mustn't allow racial insights to be the sole property of disturbed
personalities belonging to fringe political groups, who are bound to
distort and exaggerate the facts. This is evident to people who have
acquired a psychoanalytic consciousness, but is yet to be understood
by the average journalist or debater, who always think that repression
of disagreeable facts is the great panacea for every problem in human
affairs.

M. Winther

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From: "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:04:25 +0200
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 9:04 am
Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
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>And suppose you find a small difference in average psychological
>measures between different ethnic groups (tiny compared to the
>variation of these factors within any such group), how is that
>information of practical use? Because of the wide variation *within*
>any group, ethinicity can never be a useful predictor of the
>qualities
>of an individual.

For instance, the average IQ of a country determines its Gross
National Product. Of course, this means that immigration impacts the
future economic course of the country, depending on the origin of the
immigrants.

"Are the Wealthiest Countries the Smartest Countries?"
http://tinyurl.com/6ya94nn

"IQ and the Wealth of Nations"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

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From: "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:28:27 +0200
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 10:28 am
Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
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It seems like you are only rationalizing your preconceived notions.
Professor Rushton's book discusses the facts behind race. It is today
freely downloadable.
Rushton, J.P. (1999). Race, Evolution, and Behavior:
A Life History Perspective (Abridged Edition).
http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/reb.html

Please read this book, and have a look at the following article, for
instance.
'Low IQs are Africa's curse, says lecturer', The Observer
(Sunday 5 November 2006)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/nov/05/highereducation.research

M. Winther


 
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From: Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:32:26 -0500
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Insights into the Race Issue

   The West is the White race.

    The goal of America is to destroy the White race. The
multi-culture and pluralism they push is only at the expense of
Whites. No one is trying to push multi-culture in China or Japan or
anyplace but on the Whites. And they promote racial intermarriage.
If things continue as they are the White race is doomed.

  And who is doing all of this? It is the USA government and the
media, in other words the Jews.

  Many Whites are traitors. They support the USA government and their
own destruction. We should look for allies. And anyone who wants to
remove the Jews from power is our ally. In the past the Japanese were
our allies. Today it is the Muslims.

Osama bin Laden
September 24th statement published in Pakistan

"I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We
are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United
States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic
freedom. This system is totally in control of the American Jews, whose
first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is simply that the
American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced
to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the
punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it
is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the
U.S. is not uttering a single word."

http://www.ihr.org/     http://www.natvan.com  

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From: "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 09:17:09 +0200
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Subject: Re: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
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How can you believe in such weird and exaggerated stuff? It is this
kind
of thinking that I refer to when I say:
"...These findings mustn't be allowed to metamorphose into
vulgar racialism and nationalism, like earlier in history. Only by
allowing such facts in public consciousness, there to be interpreted
correctly, can misinterpretations of vulgar nature be avoided. We
mustn't allow racial insights to be the sole property of disturbed
personalities belonging to fringe political groups, who are bound to
distort and exaggerate the facts. This is evident to people who have
acquired a psychoanalytic consciousness, but is yet to be understood
by the average journalist or debater, who always think that repression
of disagreeable facts is the great panacea for every problem in human
affairs."

M. Winther


 
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 More options May 1 2012, 9:58 am
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From: "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:58:18 +0200
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 9:58 am
Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
Anyway, Bundesbank's Thilo Sarrazin said that immigration is dumbing
down Germany, with long-term consequences for society, its economical
progress, etc. The problem is that he could be right. It could happen
to us what happened to the Arab civilization, when it lost all its
former vitality, and became an inferior civilization.

M. Winther

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From: Saint Sebastian Of The Arrers <brafi...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 07:20:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 10:20 am
Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On Apr 30, 12:51 am, "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se> wrote:

> I have since I wrote this discovered that Donald I. Templer discusses
> this theory in Mankind Quarterly, 'The Comparison of Mean IQ in Muslim
> and Non-Muslim Countries', Mankind Quarterly, Vol. 50, No. 3 (Spring
> 2010), pp.188-209.http://www.mankindquarterly.org/spring2010_templer.html

This is a use of the term "insight" that I'm not familiar with.

A word in your shell-like, bro':  if you're going to exploit IQ in
some kind of who's-best adventure, bettah check your own ethnic cohort
on a world ranking.  Last time I looked, East Easians ruled as regards
IQ.
Still want to follow this route?  Perhaps the route you really need is
the Piccadilly Line to Caledonian Road, then the number 91 to Crouch
End.


 
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 More options May 1 2012, 1:10 pm
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From: "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:10:47 +0200
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
"Saint Sebastian Of The Arrers" <brafi...@hotmail.com> skrev i
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On Apr 30, 12:51 am, "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se> wrote:

>> I have since I wrote this discovered that Donald I. Templer
>> discusses
>> this theory in Mankind Quarterly, 'The Comparison of Mean IQ in
>> Muslim
>> and Non-Muslim Countries', Mankind Quarterly, Vol. 50, No. 3
>> (Spring
>> 2010),
>> pp.188-209.http://www.mankindquarterly.org/spring2010_templer.html
>This is a use of the term "insight" that I'm not familiar with.

Merriam-Webster English Usage:

"When insight is used with a preposition, the choice is usually into:

 ... uncover useful insights into the social history of Victorian
England "

>A word in your shell-like, bro':  if you're going to exploit IQ in
>some kind of who's-best adventure, bettah check your own ethnic
>cohort
>on a world ranking.  Last time I looked, East Easians ruled as
>regards
>IQ.
>Still want to follow this route?  Perhaps the route you really need
>is
>the Piccadilly Line to Caledonian Road, then the number 91 to Crouch
>End.

I am not a racial supremalist. I just try to relate to scientific
facts and discuss what are the conclusions that we should draw. We
live in a complicated society. Please look at history and see what has
happened, horrible atrocieties, world wars, etc., just because
everybody prefers to remain calm and refuse to see farther than their
nose. We have an obligation to try to sustain this civilization for
future generations.

M. Winther


 
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 More options May 1 2012, 1:33 pm
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From: "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:33:59 +0200
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Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
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Oh, the Enlightenment! Hallelujah!
The Middle Ages? Booooh!

Facts are that the Middle Ages is the egg from which the Enlightenment
hatched. Medieval times is the Mother of the Enlightenment, not its
antagonist. It is the introverted standpoint of the Middle Ages that
has fostered our *inner locus of control*, which the average Arab and
many other ethnicities still lack today.
http://tinyurl.com/6aqyv4y
Medieval people fostered their souls and mind. They were more
interested in the spirit and less interested in worldly matters. This
has given to us our supreme capacity of focusing our minds, our
self-control, and our capacity to withstand impulses. We are still
very interested in the intellectual, the systematic, the conceptual,
like no other people on earth, especially not Third World people. This
is why we are here discussing intellectual matters, much like the
disputations of medieval scholastics and monks. They gave us this
ability. It was their work on their souls, and their work in
philosophy, theology, science and medicine, that gave rise to the
Enlightenment. It did not drop down on earth from out of the blue.
Enlightenment came about as the fruit of a long development.

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From: Andy Wainwright <andrewrichardwainwri...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 22:54:42 +0100
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On 01/05/2012 18:33, M Winther wrote:

Your home of Sweden is ahead of the UK in many areas of civil life - but
it has a higher suicide rate as well. It suggests that there's serious
issues at heart, in just the same way as 3rd world countries have their own.

For example, simply pointing out the repression of women in Arab Muslim
states does nothing to resolve the fact that women are still repressed
in the Western world. It has the opposite effect and a very negative one
- it puts hatred of another culture on the agenda and improvement of our
won off.

There's just as much invention and innovation in the poorer countries as
the rich, and to some extent more in recent times. A problem with the
West at present is that it has become more acceptable to watch film or
TV, or event take a package tour than to be creative, from poetry to
gardening. With everything done for us, there's not the impotus to be as
creative. It's worth noting that is rare for a genuine inventor to make
a lot of money- the cash reward is in marketing.

A particular issue for the West is that a lot of knowledge is passed on
without questioning the genuine validity of such knowledge. A student
might be marked down for giving a better answer to an existing question
than the one deemed right by an examiner who simply learned it as "fact"
elsewhere. In fact kids who ask awkward questions might be deemed as
"disruptive" or "attention seeking". There's a lot of technology and
theory that is suppressed because it is seen as a threat to a status quo
that might provide a lot of people with a good living.


 
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From: Andy Wainwright <andrewrichardwainwri...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 22:59:29 +0100
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Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On 01/05/2012 18:10, M Winther wrote:

Alternatively, expand your knowledge of and interest in psychology by
having a deeper relationship with your fellow human beings, platonic,
family or sexual. Taboos and learned prejudices prevent most humans from
doing this. It's a very simple formula- the closer you get, the broader
the mind.

 
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From: Andy Wainwright <andrewrichardwainwri...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 23:03:31 +0100
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Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On 01/05/2012 02:32, Topaz wrote:

I'm very sorry that those who brought you up abused you.

You don't have to let it ruin your life. You shouldn't try to mess up
other peoples as a result.

I know kids who were abused through racism. I also know kids abused by
paedophiles. There's strikingly little difference.


 
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From: Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 21:19:08 -0500
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On Tue, 1 May 2012 09:17:09 +0200, "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
wrote:

>How can you believe in such weird and exaggerated stuff? It is this
>kind

The USA is ruled by the Jews. That's why it's always involved in the
Middle East.

>of thinking that I refer to when I say:
>"...These findings mustn't be allowed to metamorphose into
>vulgar racialism and nationalism, like earlier in history. Only by
>allowing such facts in public consciousness, there to be interpreted
>correctly, can misinterpretations of vulgar nature be avoided. We
>mustn't allow racial insights to be the sole property of disturbed
>personalities belonging to fringe political groups, who are bound to
>distort and exaggerate the facts. This is evident to people who have
>acquired a psychoanalytic consciousness, but is yet to be understood
>by the average journalist or debater, who always think that repression
>of disagreeable facts is the great panacea for every problem in human
>affairs."

hot air

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From: Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 21:22:47 -0500
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Insights into the Race Issue

Tiptoeing around Our Problems
By Dr. William Pierce

"We've been talking about the very dangerous situation in the Middle
East recently, just because so much is happening there, and
undoubtedly we'll be talking about it much more in the future. For
that reason I want to make very clear what my motives and sympathies
are, lest I lead anyone astray and be thought a hypocrite for doing
so. First, regarding Palestine: although my sympathies definitely lie
with the Palestinians rather than with the Jews, it is not horror at
what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians that motivates me. What
motivates me is horror that my country is being used by the Jews in
their war against the Palestinians. If America were not involved at
all in the Middle East I still would sympathize with the Palestinians
and I would wish that they could be successful in driving the Jews
into the sea and annihilating the abomination that is Israel, but that
conflict between Jews and Palestinians would not be a major concern
for me. At least, my
concern there would be dwarfed by my concern for problems more
directly involving my own people in America and in Europe and in
southern Africa.

Even now, with money and weapons being supplied by America and used to
slaughter Palestinians, my concern is much less with monsters like
Ariel Sharon who are doing the slaughtering than it is with the filthy
creatures among my own people in America who are collaborating with
Jews here to keep the weapons and money flowing to Sharon -- and are
ready to do whatever else the Jews require of them here or abroad.

So when I tell you about Jews in occupied Palestine shooting
Palestinian children, and disapproval and anger are evident in my
voice, what I really am angry about is that the American people, my
people, are being used for this murderous activity. I am angry that
America's whole foreign policy has been perverted to serve Jewish
interests at the expense of American interests. I am angry that
America's political system has been perverted to ensure that we always
have so-called "leaders," whether Democrat or Republican, who are
dependent on the Jewish media or Jewish money or both for their
election and consequently will do the bidding of the Jews. I am angry
that our whole government is riddled with Jews -- Jews in our Defense
Department, Jews in our State
Department, Jews in our Immigration and Naturalization Service, Jews
in our Justice Department, Jews in the President's speech-writing
staff - who really set the policies of our government behind the
scenes, while the politicians are out front in the spotlight making
speeches and kissing babies - and doing as they're told by the Jews
behind the
scenes.

Did you know that it was a Jewish speechwriter, David Frum, who put
the phrase "axis of evil" in George Bush's mouth to justify America's
ongoing war against Israel's enemies? Did you know that a clique of
Jews in the Defense Department and among George Bush's foreign policy
advisers are the people actually running the so-called "war on terror"
in Afghanistan: a war that they intend to expand to Iraq and any other
Middle Eastern country that gets uppity, in order to make that part of
the world safe for Israel at American expense? Secretary of Defense
Donald Rumsfeld is a front man for his nominal subordinates, Deputy
Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Deputy Undersecretary of
Defense for Policy Douglas Feith; and George Bush's official foreign
policy adviser, Condoleezza Rice, helps him meet his Black quota for
the Cabinet, but it is the Jew Richard Perle, chairman of Bush's
Defense Policy Board, who gives him his foreign policy directives.

As I've said on more than one occasion, George Bush is a feckless
nincompoop who couldn't come up with a defense policy or a foreign
policy on his own if he had to -- which is why he's President. The
real policymakers behind the scenes certainly don't want a man in the
White House who has ideas of his own, because those ideas might
conflict with theirs.

And it is nothing but empty sophistry to make a distinction between
Jews in Israel, such as Ariel Sharon and Simon Peres, and the Jews in
Mr. Bush's administration formulating his policies or the Jews
controlling our mass media. They all are Jews, and that's what really
matters.

There are many knowledgeable Americans besides me who think that it's
not a good thing to have Jews using America to advance Israel's
interests at the expense of America's interests. They know how the
system works: how the Jews exert their control through money and media
and a well-entrenched network of Jewish operatives, such as Wolfowitz
and Feith and Perle. And many of these knowledgeable Americans also
understand how Jewish subterfuge and deceit work: they understand that
the Jews throw up a lot of smoke to conceal their control and make it
appear that they have much less influence than they actually do.

Despite this degree of understanding that many knowledgeable Americans
have, there seem to be very few who are willing or able to draw the
necessary conclusions. What I keep seeing are comments about the need
to get the so-called "peace process" going again in the Middle East,
and how there are hardline supporters of Israel who are obstructing
the "peace process" because they think that it will give too much to
the Palestinians or will compromise Israel's security, or whatever.
These knowledgeable Americans seem to believe that if we could just
get around the Jewish hardliners somehow -- if we could just
neutralize Jews such as Wolfowitz and Feith and Perle; if Ariel Sharon
could be replaced by a "moderate" Jewish prime minister -- then the
"peace process" could proceed, America could gradually reduce its
involvement in helping the Jews keep the Palestinians repressed, and
eventually Israel no longer would be using America, and everything
would be rosy. And so these knowledgeable Americans expend all of
their wit and energy in these trivial pursuits.

Listen! Do you know what the most hopeful aspect of the conflict
between Jews and Palestinians is now? It is the ongoing radicalization
of the Muslim masses throughout the whole Middle East. The
collaborator governments in Pakistan, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia are
terrified of the reaction they see among their own people to what
Ariel Sharon is doing to the Palestinians. When Sharon's Jewish troops
shoot Palestinian children, Muslim mobs riot, and governments that now
collaborate with the United States quake. Ariel Sharon is the best
thing that has happened in the Middle East in the last 54 years.

The Palestinian tactic of suicide bombing is being denounced by every
politician and every media spokesman over here now. It's nothing but
terrorism, they all say. There's no justification at all for suicide
bombing, they tell us. Of course, whenever you hear that sort of
unanimity from the politicians and the media people you should be
suspicious. In fact, suicide bombing is the best tactic for the
Palestinians to use now, because it provokes the Jews to step up
reprisals. And the reprisals radicalize the masses in every country in
the Middle East. If just one of the collaborator governments falls,
the spines of all the rest will be stiffened, and the Bush government
will be far less likely to find collaborators for building its
so-called "coalition" to do the will of the Jews in the Middle East.

Suicide bombers now hardly put a dent in the population of five
million Jews in occupied Palestine, and Sharon's bloody reprisals
hardly put a dent in the overall Palestinian population. But if
conflict of this sort continues until just one collaborator government
is overthrown, that ultimately will be worth more than ten thousand
successful suicide
bombings in which only 20 or so Jews are killed each time. In the long
run there can be no real peace in the Middle East and no end to
America's shameful role there -- and no future for the Palestinian
people -- as long as there is an Israel. There seems to be a better
understanding of these things among knowledgeable Palestinians than
among knowledgeable Americans.

Shallow thinking and the pursuit of trivial goals is even worse among
knowledgeable Americans when it comes to domestic problems. They
really do not want to grasp these problems with both hands and deal
with them in a forthright way. Look, for example, at what uncontrolled
immigration has done and is doing to America. And what do
knowledgeable Americans propose to do about that? Very little, really.
They make much of the fact that several of the al-Qaeda hijackers who
carried out the September 11 attack were in the United States only
because of very lax immigration policies, and so that's a good reason
for tightening up the policies.

How about simply rounding up all illegal aliens immediately -- all 12
million of them -- and booting them and all of their offspring out of
the country without further ado?

Oh, no, no, no! We can't do that! Why not? Well, the media never would
stand for it. The media would be all over anyone who even proposed a
mass expulsion of illegal aliens. They would denounce any political
leader who tried to do that as a "racist" and a "neo-Nazi." And so
knowledgeable Americans, who understand the immigration disaster quite
well, continue tiptoeing around it, afraid to do or even say anything
really significant about it: terrified even to think about really
radical solutions that might actually end the problem. And it's the
same with the rest of our domestic problems. Lots of people understand
these problems and are worried about them, but they won't tackle them
in any
significant way. They let the Jews -- the Jewish media and Jewish
money and the entrenched Jewish network -- have their way, for all
practical purposes.

Why? Why are the Jews permitted ...

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From: "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 04:55:44 +0200
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Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
"Andy Wainwright" <andrewrichardwainwri...@hotmail.co.uk> skrev i
meddelandet news:jnpmcd$831$1@dont-email.me...

You must be a junior level schoolteacher, or something.

Mats


 
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From: Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2...@charter.net>
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 21:55:58 -0500
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Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On 5/1/2012 9:22 PM, Topaz wrote:

It's unfortunate for you that Pierce didn't have the honor of dying like
his Fuehrer.

Perhaps you'll be lucky.

<snip insane, inane racist bullshit>


 
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From: saracene <john....@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 00:27:32 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On May 2, 3:22 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Tiptoeing around Our Problems
> By Dr. William Pierce

That article is now  exactly 10 years old.

 
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Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 13:16:09 +0200
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<malcolm.m...@googlemail.com> skrev i meddelandet
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I suppose you mean "theology, philosophy, and religion" above reason?
Obviously you see a contradiction between these three and "reality".
This belief of yours is called "scientism" according to which the
modern scientific method can disclose the truth in all matters,
including matters pertaining to the soul, such as spiritual meaning.
Scientism is an ideology, but I wouldn't call the medieval frame of
mind "ideological". This is a sickness of the modern time.

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From: Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:43:30 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On May 1, 7:19 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 May 2012 09:17:09 +0200, "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
> wrote:

> >How can you believe in such weird and exaggerated stuff? It is this
> >kind

> The USA is ruled by the Jews. That's why it's always involved in the
> Middle East.

   Sweden is not ruled by the Jews, and yet it is having problems with
the sand Nazis.

   http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/muslim_rape_wave_in_sweden/

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From: Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 19:39:57 -0500
Local: Wed, May 2 2012 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Insights into the Race Issue

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=52045

Every now and then we get some really interesting evidence from
readers of this web site. This was just emailed to us from a reader
originally from Sweden. We hope the enlightened in other nations will
find their way to us and research their own country's media apparatus,
and who controls it.

This paradigm of Jewish dominance of mass media information sources is
evidenced throughout the world, from the U.S. to Great Britain, from
Brazil to Australia, from Poland to Peru.

Dear Sir,

First of all I would like to laud you for an exhaustive and
well-prepared site. You have certainly gone through the Jewish
question thoroughly before compiling your observations and analysis.
Reading your This week's Jewish News as usual today there was one
piece of news that made my face wreathed in smiles. The piece of news
concerned how the Jewish community of Lithuania accused LNK television
for anti-Semitism.

Well, the far too familiar irony is that the LNK, as stated in the
article is owned by the Bonnier family, based in my country of origin,
Sweden. Worth mentioning then is that the Bonniers are Jewish
themselves. Bonnier is a taken name; originally the family was named
Hirschel. Not only is the Bonnier family Jewish and not only do they
own LNK, but they are the far most influential media group in Sweden
and in Finland.

Of the seven largest daily newspapers in Sweden, the seven with a
daily circulation of over 100,000, the Bonnier family owns four,
Dagens Nyheter (the Daily News), Expressen (the Express), Sydsvenska
Dagbladet (the Southern Swedish Daily News) and Dagens Industri (the
Industry of Today). The largest of the private channels in Sweden is
TV4. The Bonnier family directly holds 21,6% of TV4 and through their
ownership of the Finnish based Alma media company they hold an
additionally 23,4%, totalling up 45% and a virtual control. As head of
TV4 we find the Jew Jan Scherman. Through Alma Media, Bonnier also
controls MTV3, the most popular channel in Finland with 39,1% of the
total viewing time (in 2001) and Subtv, the third largest commercial
television channel in Finland, aiming mainly at young adults.

Apropos Finland, Bonnier also owns 23% of MTV in that country. In
Finland, Bonnier also controls the leading daily Iltalehti and
Kauppalehti, Finland's largest business media with a circulation of
85.000 per day. Bonnier also control the printing house Lehdentekijät,
that produces 40 regularly published magazines in Finland. In addition
to that they own five regional papers, 15 local papers and nine
free-distribution papers in Finland alone. They further control the
Baltic News Service, the leading news bureau in the Baltic region,
providing the world with news about the Baltic with a Bonnier touch.

Beside the Bonnier family in Sweden there is the Jew Peter Hjörne
(Kaplan), owner and chief editor of Göteborgs-Posten (the Gothenburg
Post; GP), the fourth largest newspaper in Sweden with a circulation
of 253,700, reaching 600,000 readers daily. GP is furthermore the only
newspaper in Sweden's second city, Gothenburg. Hjörne is also the
owner of two local newspapers, Bohuslänningen (32.400) and Strömstads
tidning (5,200); both distributed in the Swedish north-west coast
area. In addition he controls 22% of Liberala tidningars konsortium
(the consortium of liberal newspapers) and thereby Nerike Allehanda
(The eighth largest newspaper in Sweden with a circulation of 66,300),
Motala tidning/Vadstena tidning (12,800), Bergslagsposten (10,600) and
Nya Ludvika tidning (9,500). Finally he also holds 9% of
Hallandsposten (31,000).

Hjörne is a part of the old Jewish establishment in Gothenburg and has
his way to influence the Gentiles of that city. For instance, when the
Jew Steven Spielberg¹s movie Schindler¹s List reached the screens
Hjörne personally paid so all senior high school students would see
it. The Bonnier family owns 30% and Hjörne owns 10% of The Swedish
News-agency Tidningarnas Telegrambyrå (the Swedish Central News
Agency), the mainly news source for the none-local news stories in
most minor papers in Sweden.

The largest newspaper in Sweden is Aftonbladet (the Evening Post),
jointly owned by the Swedish Labour Union and the Norwegian Schibstedt
company. The chief editor, however, is the Jewess Helle Klein, great
granddaughter of the former grand rabbi of Stockholm, Rabbi Gottlieb
Klein. Her father, Ernst Klein, is influential in Swedish media as
well. 1990-1999 he was the chief editor of Östgöta Correspondenten,
the ninth largest newspaper in Sweden, and now he sits on its board.
He furthermore is president of Svensk Presshistorisk Förening (Swedish
association of press history).

Beside Klein there are several Jewish staffers working at Aftonbladet.

In other words, of the seven largest news papers in Sweden, six are
either owned by or edited by Jews. And please note, there are fewer
than 20,000 Jews in Sweden making up roughly 0.2% of the total
population. Actually, I could go on and on describing the Jewish media
influence in Sweden but I guess you see where I am heading. That LNK
or Bonnier would be anti-Semitic is about the most ridiculous I have
heard. Keep up the good work!

Regards, M

... [T]here is a Jew named Robert Aschberg in Sweden who wields a
great lot of power in our media. He owns the largest production
company in Sweden called Strix Television and produces programs for
every major channel, especially TV3 where almost all programs that
aren't Hollywood produced sitcoms, talk shows (Ricky Lake and Jerry
Springer) or bad movies comes from Strix. It was Strix by the way that
first came up with the idea of the show Survivor, now broadcasted also
in the USA. Aschberg himself is the head of several of these usually
noisy and chaotic shows and has thus been called Sweden's Michel
Friedman. His maternal grandfather is the banker Olof Aschberg who
helped finance the Russian revolution and his brother, Richard
Aschberg, works at Aftonbladet (the Evening Post). Robert Aschberg is
further an important financer of eXpo, a Swedish version of the ADL,
while it however is not an exclusively Jewish organization.

http://www.ihr.org/     http://www.natvan.com  

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com    


 
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From: "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 06:46:20 +0200
Local: Thurs, May 3 2012 12:46 am
Subject: Re: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
"Topaz" <mars1...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
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The Bonnier family, although formally Jewish, aren't very Jewish
genetically. Most of the family, perhaps, less than 25%(?). This
raises the question of successful Jews in America. I suspect they are
less than 25% Jewish, too. It would be very interesting to read some
research on the level of Jewishness in American Jewish upper classes.
If you are born with a formally Jewish mother, then you can call
yourself Jewish. This is the reason why the Jewish bloodline can, with
time, be thinned down. To belong to the Jewish community brings many
advantages, so people tend to call themselves Jews, even if they
aren't particularly Jewish genetically.

So this questions this whole anti-Semitic agenda. If the upper class
Jews in USA and Europe are mostly of Germanic, Celtic, or Slavonic,
genetic origin, then we can conclude that the "culprits" in fact
belong to the glorious white race.

One example is Robert Aschberg, mentioned above. His grandfather was a
wealthy Jewish banker. This means that Ascberg is *not* Jewish (he had
not a Jewish mother) and he is genetically only 25% Jewish. Ascberg
grew up in a secular home. So there are no grounds for calling him
Jewish.

So the "Jews" who are "threatening Western civilization", are they in
fact Jews?

M. Winther


 
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From: "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:47:03 +0200
Local: Thurs, May 3 2012 2:47 am
Subject: Re: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
"Topaz" <mars1...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
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According to Freedom House, Sweden, together with Norway and Finland,
has the freest press in the world.
http://www.freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/freedom-press-2012
This puts things into perspective. The allegedly "Jewish controlled
media" in Sweden is the freest in the world.

Mats


 
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From: saracene <john....@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 23:56:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 3 2012 2:56 am
Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On May 3, 7:47 am, "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se> wrote:

If that is so  it's remarkable that Sweden should be such an
oppressive and conformist society.

 
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From: saracene <john....@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 23:53:40 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 3 2012 2:53 am
Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On May 3, 5:46 am, "M Winther" <m...@swipnet.se> wrote:

It's not a question of genetics, It all comes down to a question of
loyalties. Jews at the present day are accused of a number of
pernicious agendas. Support of Israel, which distorts foreign policy.
Promotion of multi racialism to created a society where Jews can feel
safer. Support of political correctness, for the same reason.
Censorship of criticism of Jews, to assist Jewish power.

 
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From: saracene <john....@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 00:05:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 3 2012 3:05 am
Subject: Re: Insights into the Race Issue
On May 3, 7:56 am, saracene <john....@gmail.com> wrote:

Some people don't think prohibiting "hate speech" is a restriction of
freedom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#Sweden

Sweden prohibits hate speech, and defines it as publicly making
statements that threaten or express disrespect for an ethnic group or
similar group regarding their race, skin colour, national or ethnic
origin, faith or sexual orientation.[38][39] The crime doesn't
prohibit a pertinent and responsible debate (en saklig och vederhäftig
diskussion), nor statements made in a completely private sphere.[40].
There are constiutional restrictions pertaining to which acts are
criminalized, as well limits set by the European Convention on Human
Rights.[41].

The sexual orientation provision, added in 2002,[42] was used to
convict Pentecostalist pastor Åke Green of hate speech based on a 2003
sermon. His conviction was later overturned.[43][41]


 
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