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National Geographic's "Becoming Human": Neanderthal Nonsense
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JTEM
Sep 30, 2012, 5:13:51 AM9/30/12
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Now episode-3 of National Geographic's
"Becoming Human" makes too many mistakes
for me to address in one post. And, as this
group is filled with emotionally disturbed idiots
anyway, I'll just deal with one obvious blunder:
Neanderthals and hunting.
The show insists that none of the Neanderthal
stone blades are small enough for a throwing
spear, so they had to be up-close and personal
with their prey. They insist that Neanderthals had
to stab their prey to death, with the Neanderthals
taking damage from the animals in the process.
Wrong.
For starters, hunting spears are nearly impossible
to find. They're just wood, so they rarely preserve
at all, and in almost any case you can imagine, if
one was preserved it would be fragmentary -- thus
impossible to identify. All you'd find is a piece of
wood, perhaps no more than a sliver.
How would you know it was a spear? What would
be capable of setting it apart from a stick?
Preserved organic material is rare, but not entirely
unheard of. We do have preserved spears dating
to BEFORE Neanderthals, perfectly balanced
throwing spears for example, and they do not have
stone tips.
Nope.
The perfectly balanced throwing spears which we
find have sharpened wooden tips. So we don't
even have a reason to suspect that Neanderthals
would need stone points for throwing spears...
Secondly, Neanderthals do show quite a few
injuries, and it is often stated that these injuries
(their patterns) mostly closely match those of
rodeo cowboys, suggesting that Neanderthal
injuries resulted from close-in battling with large
prey.
Dumb.
A rodeo cowboy, in short, is someone who practices
the skills of animal husbandry -- domestication. It's
an archaic form of animal husbandry, granted, but
it's none the less animal husbandry. What idiots are
saying is that Neanderthal injuries most closely
resemble those received in an archaic form of
animal husbandry, hence they must've been walking
up to wild animals and slowly stabbing them to death.
Like I said: Dumb.
Now, there is a reason to suggest that Neanderthals
did practice a form of semi-domestication, similar to
what is seen today in the cases of Mongolian horses.
An examination of Neanderthal kills, for example,
reveal that they appeared to be culling the herds of
Caribou, taking the prime animals, and not the weak
(young or old). They were selecting, not taking what
they could. And the Caribou is a fairly passive animal.
It is claimed that you can even milk wild Caribou. But
they also could have been hunting.
Even if we assume that all humans everywhere simply
forgot how to throw a spear for a few hundred thousand
years, Neanderthals could have done quite well without
throwing weapons. How? By sitting in a tree!
If you can figure out the likely path of an animal (which
isn't hard for an experienced tracker), you in sit in a
tree above and "Ambush" them with a stabbing spear.
This is done even today. There are videos of this
online, and we are not talking about anything as
"Dangerous" as a deer, we're talking about this technique
being used to kill a bear at close quarters.
NOTE: Supposedly, going by one such modern
ambush hunter, a long thin blade is preferable... a
blade similar to what is often associated with
Neanderthal sites...
Finally, a really obvious way that Neanderthals might've
sustained their injuries is by living in close quarters with
(now get this) Neanderthals. As many injuries as they
appear to have sustained, as bad as they were, Neanderthals
were fairly long-lived. It has often been claimed that
they were the first humans to know their grandparents.
Early moderns didn't live any longer than Neanderthals,
which suggests less of a death struggle than fighting.
Only humans can seek to hurt you. An animal fighting
you isn't holding back, it doesn't care if it kills you. If
it was animals inflicting these injuries, and so-called
"Moderns" were not receiving them, then it follows that
Neanderthals had to die younger on average.
Unless you're deliberately trying to hurt -- avoid death --
a certain percentage has to be dying from all these
injuries. But they don't appear to be. Like I said,
Neanderthals were fairly long lived. People in historic
times weren't living any longer than they did...
"Becoming Human" makes too many mistakes
for me to address in one post. And, as this
group is filled with emotionally disturbed idiots
anyway, I'll just deal with one obvious blunder:
Neanderthals and hunting.
The show insists that none of the Neanderthal
stone blades are small enough for a throwing
spear, so they had to be up-close and personal
with their prey. They insist that Neanderthals had
to stab their prey to death, with the Neanderthals
taking damage from the animals in the process.
Wrong.
For starters, hunting spears are nearly impossible
to find. They're just wood, so they rarely preserve
at all, and in almost any case you can imagine, if
one was preserved it would be fragmentary -- thus
impossible to identify. All you'd find is a piece of
wood, perhaps no more than a sliver.
How would you know it was a spear? What would
be capable of setting it apart from a stick?
Preserved organic material is rare, but not entirely
unheard of. We do have preserved spears dating
to BEFORE Neanderthals, perfectly balanced
throwing spears for example, and they do not have
stone tips.
Nope.
The perfectly balanced throwing spears which we
find have sharpened wooden tips. So we don't
even have a reason to suspect that Neanderthals
would need stone points for throwing spears...
Secondly, Neanderthals do show quite a few
injuries, and it is often stated that these injuries
(their patterns) mostly closely match those of
rodeo cowboys, suggesting that Neanderthal
injuries resulted from close-in battling with large
prey.
Dumb.
A rodeo cowboy, in short, is someone who practices
the skills of animal husbandry -- domestication. It's
an archaic form of animal husbandry, granted, but
it's none the less animal husbandry. What idiots are
saying is that Neanderthal injuries most closely
resemble those received in an archaic form of
animal husbandry, hence they must've been walking
up to wild animals and slowly stabbing them to death.
Like I said: Dumb.
Now, there is a reason to suggest that Neanderthals
did practice a form of semi-domestication, similar to
what is seen today in the cases of Mongolian horses.
An examination of Neanderthal kills, for example,
reveal that they appeared to be culling the herds of
Caribou, taking the prime animals, and not the weak
(young or old). They were selecting, not taking what
they could. And the Caribou is a fairly passive animal.
It is claimed that you can even milk wild Caribou. But
they also could have been hunting.
Even if we assume that all humans everywhere simply
forgot how to throw a spear for a few hundred thousand
years, Neanderthals could have done quite well without
throwing weapons. How? By sitting in a tree!
If you can figure out the likely path of an animal (which
isn't hard for an experienced tracker), you in sit in a
tree above and "Ambush" them with a stabbing spear.
This is done even today. There are videos of this
online, and we are not talking about anything as
"Dangerous" as a deer, we're talking about this technique
being used to kill a bear at close quarters.
NOTE: Supposedly, going by one such modern
ambush hunter, a long thin blade is preferable... a
blade similar to what is often associated with
Neanderthal sites...
Finally, a really obvious way that Neanderthals might've
sustained their injuries is by living in close quarters with
(now get this) Neanderthals. As many injuries as they
appear to have sustained, as bad as they were, Neanderthals
were fairly long-lived. It has often been claimed that
they were the first humans to know their grandparents.
Early moderns didn't live any longer than Neanderthals,
which suggests less of a death struggle than fighting.
Only humans can seek to hurt you. An animal fighting
you isn't holding back, it doesn't care if it kills you. If
it was animals inflicting these injuries, and so-called
"Moderns" were not receiving them, then it follows that
Neanderthals had to die younger on average.
Unless you're deliberately trying to hurt -- avoid death --
a certain percentage has to be dying from all these
injuries. But they don't appear to be. Like I said,
Neanderthals were fairly long lived. People in historic
times weren't living any longer than they did...
Lee Olsen
Sep 30, 2012, 10:33:45 AM9/30/12
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"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
Message-ID: <87ocvgs2...@nospam.pacbell.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009
"JTEM is repeating a number of his lies, hoping some will
stick including
1. lies about my identity (Bill Taylor is someone
else.)
(and, depending on the post)
2. lies about what I posted.
3. lies about what a discussion is about.
The extent to which he is lying is strong evidence that
he is in fact a pathlogical liar. He has reduced himself
to figuratively getting into bed with Bill Taylor, one of
the most rabid homophobes plaguing this/these newsgroups
while pretending to be just the opposite.
And he's been complaining that I'm giving him a default
response when he posts the same lies over and over in spite
of the obvious fact that he is posting his garbage merely
as harassment (and possibly as an indication that he suffers
from Tourette syndrome given the language he often uses).
Until he has something substantial to contribute and can
express himself civilly, this idiot will get this canned
reply."
Yep, same sick routine, different list, different person attacked.
JTEM, obviously, is pleading for help all over the net.
JTEM
Oct 1, 2012, 2:27:16 AM10/1/12
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I'm re-posting this, despite your obvious
mental illness, both to demonstrate your
sociopathic desire to disrupt rather than
participate, as well as to showcase your
astounding stupidity.
After all, you couldn't manage a sound
argument if one was typed out for you
and someone helped you to sound out
the bog words. Anyhow, here it is again:
Now episode-3 of National Geographic's
mental illness, both to demonstrate your
sociopathic desire to disrupt rather than
participate, as well as to showcase your
astounding stupidity.
After all, you couldn't manage a sound
argument if one was typed out for you
and someone helped you to sound out
the bog words. Anyhow, here it is again:
Now episode-3 of National Geographic's
"Becoming Human" makes too many mistakes
Lee Olsen
Oct 1, 2012, 10:51:44 AM10/1/12
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On Sep 30, 11:27 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm re-posting this
Don't bother, the real question should be: Are sock puppets sane?
Received: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology
Subject: Look, everyone, look!
From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
JTEM replies with this classic Freudian slip (forgetting to use his
'Seth' handle and using "I" instead):
On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
Everything "I" say? What happened to sock puppet 'Seth' who made the
post?
JTEM has proven himself to be the dumbest sock puppet on the planet.
JTEM 12 Dec 2007 04:18 GMT
"I've also posted many, many, many other "fake" articles in
other groups, which few people didn't recognize as parody.
Yes, even when posted under a different name people had
no problems seeing that they were parodies."
Multiple IPs, multiple emails, multiple-personality disorder.
Get some help, sicko.
> I'm re-posting this
Don't bother, the real question should be: Are sock puppets sane?
Received: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology
Subject: Look, everyone, look!
From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
JTEM replies with this classic Freudian slip (forgetting to use his
'Seth' handle and using "I" instead):
On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
Everything "I" say? What happened to sock puppet 'Seth' who made the
post?
JTEM has proven himself to be the dumbest sock puppet on the planet.
JTEM 12 Dec 2007 04:18 GMT
"I've also posted many, many, many other "fake" articles in
other groups, which few people didn't recognize as parody.
Yes, even when posted under a different name people had
no problems seeing that they were parodies."
Multiple IPs, multiple emails, multiple-personality disorder.
Get some help, sicko.
JTEM
Oct 2, 2012, 1:06:51 AM10/2/12
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Lee Olsen
Oct 2, 2012, 9:17:10 AM10/2/12
to
"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
AARON G. FILLER
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
Emergence and optimization of upright
posture among hominiform hominoids
and the evolutionary pathophysiology of
back pain
Neurosurg. Focus / Volume 23 / July, 2007
The effects of these three major types of transformation
is an increase in the degree of dynamic, muscularly driven
compressive forces on lumbar disks and a greater risk for
strains and tears in the muscles of the lumbar region be-
cause of their increased leverage. These features are evo-
lutionary innovations that suit the human body plan as
well as the evolutionary path and lifestyle of the human
lineage. They have supported an upright bipedal species
capable of carrying heavy objects and the young across
great distances, whether walking or running. In this fash-
ion they have helped our species to more or less conquer
the world. Nonetheless, these changes seem to be the prin-
cipal suspects for any relative increase in the susceptibili-
ty to back pain that humans may exhibit relative to the
other mammalian species.
JTEM
Oct 3, 2012, 1:41:58 AM10/3/12
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Lee Olsen
Oct 3, 2012, 5:57:08 AM10/3/12
to
"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
Received: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology
Subject: Look, everyone, look!
From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
JTEM replies with this classic Freudian slip (forgetting to use his
'Seth' handle and using "I" instead):
On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
Everything "I" say? What happened to sock puppet 'Seth' who made
the
post?
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology
Subject: Look, everyone, look!
From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!
Mar 24, 5:23 pm
Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.
JTEM replies with this classic Freudian slip (forgetting to use his
'Seth' handle and using "I" instead):
On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?
Everything "I" say? What happened to sock puppet 'Seth' who made
the
post?
JTEM
Oct 4, 2012, 4:14:29 AM10/4/12
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Hey, Lloyd (etc):
Instead of trying to claim that everyone
posting who is not me has to be me,
why not try to manage an intelligent
response to this:
Instead of trying to claim that everyone
posting who is not me has to be me,
why not try to manage an intelligent
response to this:
Lee Olsen
Oct 4, 2012, 11:22:41 AM10/4/12
to
On Oct 4, 1:14 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, Lloyd (etc):
>Like I said, go on: Jump!
http://tinyurl.com/7vflru7
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:36:39 -0800 (PST)
JTEM wrote:
>You must cut open your tongue with a razor.
Trying to bait the FBI?
> Hey, Lloyd (etc):
"JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
In His Glory: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
>Only humans can seek to hurt you.
http://tinyurl.com/4v2ed4s
>Like I said, go on: Jump!
http://tinyurl.com/7vflru7
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:36:39 -0800 (PST)
JTEM wrote:
>You must cut open your tongue with a razor.
Trying to bait the FBI?
JTEM
Oct 8, 2012, 10:32:49 AM10/8/12
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Lee Olsen
Oct 8, 2012, 11:53:26 PM10/8/12
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JTEM
Oct 14, 2012, 5:28:13 AM10/14/12
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Lee Olsen
Oct 14, 2012, 10:22:24 AM10/14/12
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JTEM
Oct 22, 2012, 1:27:27 AM10/22/12
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Lee Olsen
Oct 22, 2012, 2:04:41 AM10/22/12
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On Oct 21, 10:27 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now episode-3 of National Geographic's
> "Becoming Human" makes too many mistakes
Least they don't have them coming from "Beringer"
> Now episode-3 of National Geographic's
> "Becoming Human" makes too many mistakes
JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Message-ID: <9d955fbd-9672-4d43-a554-
f45c5d...@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>
"The point is that the remains do not match those of the supposed
Beringer
population."
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