> > In article
> > <11ea9272-960a-47f6-8614-6c8614c2c...@z14g2000vbh.googlegroups.com>,
> > Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:

> >> On May 6, 9:37=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >> > In article
> >> > <d597af65-5758-4edc-bd08-b6a6bf45e...@ee2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

> >> > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > On May 5, 7:41=3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >> > > > In article
> >> > > > <9d97f0c3-8233-4fee-8c05-13fc2f838...@j16g2000vbl.googlegroups.c
> >> > > > om>,

> >> > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > On May 5, 7:43=3D3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >> > > > > > In article
> >> > > > > > <ec6343da-60e3-4bab-bcb1-df473af3a...@m15g2000vbh.googlegrou
> >> > > > > > ps.co=
> >> m>,

> >> > > > > > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > On May 3, 9:26=3D3D3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason)
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > In article
> >> > > > > > > > <XnsA048470AE7324nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>=
> >> , Mi=3D
> >> > > tche=3D3D
> >> > > > > ll

> >> > > > > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >> > > > > > > > >news:Jason-0205122141440001@66-53-223-166.stkn.mdsg-pac
> >> > > > > > > > >west.=
> >> com:

> >> > > > > > > > > > In article
> >> > > > > > > > > > <dfritzin-6DF3B8.18550501052...@news.eternal-septemb
> >> > > > > > > > > > er.or=
> >> g>, =3D
> >> > > Davi=3D3D
> >> > > > > d
> >> > > > > > > > > > Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:

> >> > > > > > > > > >> In article
> >> > > > > > > > > >> <Jason-0105121445420...@66-53-220-7.stkn.mdsg-pacwe
> >> > > > > > > > > >> st.co=
> >> m>,
> >> > > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3DA0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> >> > > > > > > > > >> > In article
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > <ffbf152b-0786-48c9-a23f-2574263d3...@m31g2000vbn
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > .goog=
> >> legr=3D
> >> > > oups=3D3D
> >> > > > > .com=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > >,
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:

> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Jason, you are talking about needing
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > enough wate=
> >> r to=3D
> >> > > =A0fil=3D3D
> >> > > > > l al=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > l
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > the oceans, with water to a depth of 5.5
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > miles o=
> >> n to=3D
> >> > > p of
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > that. There is no way your canopy could
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > contain =
> >> that=3D
> >> > > =A0muc=3D3D
> >> > > > > h
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > water and still have sunlight come
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > through. Not =
> >> to m=3D
> >> > > enti=3D3D
> >> > > > > on
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > that the heat and pressure of the earth
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > under su=
> >> ch a=3D
> >> > > =A0can=3D3D
> >> > > > > opy
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > would not let life ever form. LIkewise,
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > there is=
> >>  now=3D
> >> > > here=3D3D
> >> > > > > =3DA0for
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > the water to go. The oceans would have
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > been full=
> >> . La=3D
> >> > > kes
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > would have been full. Any underground
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > cavern cap=
> >> able=3D
> >> > > =A0of
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > holding water would have been full. And
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > still, t=
> >> here=3D
> >> > > =A0wou=3D3D
> >> > > > > ld
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > have been enough water to cover the earth
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > to a d=
> >> epth=3D
> >> > > =A0of =3D3D
> >> > > > > 5.5
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > miles. Where did it go?

> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > We have discussed that issue before.

> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Since you have never come up with any
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > physically pos=
> >> sibl=3D
> >> > > e an=3D3D
> >> > > > > swer=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > s
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > so the "issue" is still wide open.

> >> > > > > > > > > >> > God is a miracle working God so could have
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > created the=
> >>  Noa=3D
> >> > > h's =3D3D
> >> > > > > Floo=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > d
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > water and after the flood was over--God could
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > have cau=
> >> sed =3D
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > excessive water to be placed on another planet.

> >> > > > > > > > > >> IOW, you are saying God lied to us, when he poofed
> >> > > > > > > > > >> the w=
> >> ater=3D
> >> > > =A0int=3D3D
> >> > > > > o an=3D3D3D
> >> > > > > > > d
> >> > > > > > > > > >> out of existence, and caused a flood that left no
> >> > > > > > > > > >> eviden=
> >> ce o=3D
> >> > > f an=3D3D
> >> > > > > y
> >> > > > > > > > > >> kind of its presence. Not only that, but several
> >> > > > > > > > > >> civiliz=
> >> atio=3D
> >> > > ns l=3D3D
> >> > > > > ived
> >> > > > > > > > > >> through ye Floode without noticing they had all
> >> > > > > > > > > >> drowned.

> >> > > > > > > > > > I did not say that God lied to us. The Bible does
> >> > > > > > > > > > not pro=
> >> vide=3D
> >> > > =A0det=3D3D
> >> > > > > ails
> >> > > > > > > > > > about that subject.

> >> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3DA0Since when has that stopped you?

> >> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3DA0The Bible doesn't provide any
> >> > > > > > > > > details ab=
> >> out
> >> > > > > > > > > this "canopy" but you believe IT well enough.

> >> > > > > > > > Only because it explains the source of the Noah's Flood
> >> > > > > > > > water=
> >> .

> >> > > > > > > You have no evidence this alleged canopy existed.

> >> > > > > > > You have no evidence the alleged flood happened.

> >> > > > > > > So you are propping up one lie with another.

> >> > > > > > > Your house of cards is under threat from the facts.

> >> > > > > > > There was no canopy.

> >> > > > > > > There was no flood.

> >> > > > > > I still believe Noah's Flood happened.

> >> > > > > Even though you have no evidence for it?

> >> > > > > For the love of little green apples why?!?

> >> > > > Because I have visited the Grand Canyon. Yes, the river has
> >> > > > played a =
> >> role=3D
> >> > > .
> >> > > > However, the Grand Canyon would not be like it is today if it
> >> > > > had not=
> >>  bee=3D
> >> > > n
> >> > > > for Noah's Flood.

> >> > > So you keep claiming.

> >> > > But you have nothing to support your claim.

> >> > The Grand Canyon is the evidence.

> >> How did the walls of mud not slump?

> > I was not present to witness the early days of Noah's Flood so I don't
> > know.

>    You were not present to witness this Canopy but
> you still believe in it.

>    Explain the difference.