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Mitchell Holman  
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 More options Apr 22 2012, 10:24 pm
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, sci.anthropology.paleo
From: Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:24:25 -0500
Local: Sun, Apr 22 2012 10:24 pm
Subject: Re: Jason and the Whales
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in news:Jason-2204121710210001@66-53-214-
238.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

> In article <XnsA03DAA3C43C3Bnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> news:Jason-2204121431030001@66-53-220-250.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com:

>> > In article <XnsA03D53FD18D3Enomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

>> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> >> news:Jason-2104122334050001@66-53-219-87.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

>> >> > In article <VNzkr.59153$YM2.58...@newsfe05.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> >> > <tmcdonald2...@charter.net> wrote:

>> >> >> On 4/21/2012 1:53 AM, Jason wrote:
>> >> >> > In article<l9gkr.9948$VF7.1...@newsfe02.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> >> >> > <tmcdonald2...@charter.net>  wrote:

>> >> >> >> My point was that, if you are correct and the Hebrews had to
>> >> >> >> kill the other Canaanites because they were not obeying the
>> >> >> >> commandments (which, by the way, the Hebrews had themselves
>> >> >> >> just gotten), why wouldn't the first effort of the Hebrews
been
>> >> >> >> to preach to them and attempt to convert them? Instead, they
>> >> >> >> just killed them.

>> >> >> >> And if the war was a holy war against non-believers in the
>> >> >> >> brand-new Hebrew religion (much like the holy war against
>> >> >> >> unbelievers in the then-brand-new Islamic religion a thousand
>> >> >> >> years later), why stop where they did? Why not attempt to
>> >> >> >> convert the whole world?

>> >> >> >> I think you haven't thought this through very well.

>> >> >> > Yes, I have.

>> >> >> Then you can tell me why the Hebrews didn't try to convert the
>> >> >> other tribes before killing them all. What is that reason?

>> >> > I can guess that God did not trust them--they could say they were
>> >> > Hebrews but God knew they would go back to being enemies of the
>> >> > Hebrews about a dozen years later. The best example is Egypt. The
>> >> > Jews made an agreement with them--but it's possible that if the
>> >> > Muslim Brotherhood gets control over Egypt that they will restart
a
>> >> > war with Israel despite the peace agreement.

>> >>      Balderdash. A stable Egyptian government will do
>> >> nothing to endanger their stipend from the US, not to
>> >> mention their income from tourism. Even an official
>> >> Islamic government - like the ones we created in Iraq
>> >> and Afghanistan - has nothing to gain from starting a
>> >> war.

>> > Let's wait and see. They will probably go about it in such a way
that
>> > their actions can NOT be tied to the government of Egypt.

>> > How will they do it? If the members of their military or the police
>> > discover terrorists building tunnels into Israel--they will order
the
>> > military or the police to NOT do anything about it.

>> > If a group of terrorist attacks Israel--they will claim the
government
>> > was not responsible for those attacks and will promise to keep it
from
>> > happening again. However, they will secretly decide to allow it to
>> > happen again without taking any acitons to stop those attacks.

>>      Saudi Arabia - our "ally" - has been funding terrorism
>> for years and the US has done nothing about it.

>> > Obama will believe them and keep providing them with money.

>> > If Reagan was still president, he would cut off the money supply in
>> > that same situation.

>>      Reagan would respond to terrorism in the future
>> the way he did inthe past - by selling arms to the
>> terrorists.

> LOL

     Reagan ADMITTED selling arms to terrorists, Jason.

     He also admitted lying about it.

"A few months ago I told the American people I did not
trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions
still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence
tell me it is not."
Ronald Reagan, Address to the Nation, Jan 1987


 
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