Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss
Re: Lucy FACTOID 101
0 views
Skip to first unread message
Mitchell Holman
Jan 22, 2012, 11:19:52 PM1/22/12
to
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-22011...@67-150-169-107.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> In article <co7oh7hb7s9pspri1...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:06:16 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> alt.talk.creationism:
>>
>> >In article <Xns9FE14F1FC3551...@216.196.121.131>,
>> >Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> >> news:Jason-21011...@67-150-168-119.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <jfdd47$lge$1...@dont-email.me>, Flint
>> >> > <age...@section31.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 1/20/2012 7:13 AM, David Fritzinger wrote:
>> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> > <Jason-20011...@67-150-171-47.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> >> >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> In article<jfa004$6um$4...@dont-email.me>, DanielSan
>> >> >> >> <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> On 1/19/2012 12:57 PM, Jason wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> <brevity snip>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> Regardless, I believed what he had to say about the CoLB.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Because you're a racist.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Alan Keyes is a black man. Are you saying that I am a racist
>> >> >> >> for believing a black man. Beam me up Scotty.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Alan Keyes is an idiot, who was bitter because Obama
>> >> >> > completely destroyed when they were opponents in the 2004
>> >> >> > Illinois Senate race. You are not a racist for believing him.
>> >> >> > However, you are a racist for believing the lies he told
>> >> >> > (because you wanted to believe them), just as you are a
>> >> >> > racist for believing Obama wasn't a natural born citizen, for
>> >> >> > believing he is a socialist (when you don't have any idea of
>> >> >> > what a socialist actually is) or a secret Muslim, when there
>> >> >> > is no evidence that he is. The fact that, to you, Obama is
>> >> >> > the "other", and is somehow unAmerican. That is why
>> >> >> > you are a racist.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Me thinks someone needs to explain to Fritzy what racism is.
>> >> >> He is rather clumsily playing the race card, or suffers from
>> >> >> white guilt to be constantly invoking the race card.
>> >> >
>> >> > Lots of liberals do it. McCain was so afraid of being labelled a
>> >> > racist that he rarely ever said anything negative about Obama.
>> >> > That is one of the reasons he lost the election.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Candidates almost never say negative things about
>> >> their opponents, they let their surrogates do that for
>> >> them. Bush didn't have to attack Kerry over his military
>> >> record, he had the Swiftboaters to do that for him. McCain
>> >> didn't have to question Obama's nativity, he had the
>> >> Birthers to do that for him, Perry didn't have to make an
>> >> issue of Cain's adultery, he had his handlers do that for
>> >> him.
>> >>
>> >> Indeed, candidates can safely PRAISE their oppenents
>> >> as long as others are doing the dirty work.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "I think his service is heroic. I think him going
>> >> to Vietnam was more heroic than my flying fighter
>> >> jets. He was in harm's way and I wasn't."
>> >> - President Bush on John Kerry's service in Vietnam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >And Mrs. Clinton's staff member started the rumors that Obama was
>> >born
> in Kenya.
>> >
>> So you claim, but you will believe anything that insults our
>> president. You have a shameful lack of respect for your country.
>
> I claim it since it is a known fact.
Didn't you find it odd that the Birthers attacked
OBama for travelling to Kenya and never once questioned
how this "foreign born" candidate got a US passport to
do so?
news:Jason-22011...@67-150-169-107.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> In article <co7oh7hb7s9pspri1...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:06:16 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> alt.talk.creationism:
>>
>> >In article <Xns9FE14F1FC3551...@216.196.121.131>,
>> >Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> >> news:Jason-21011...@67-150-168-119.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <jfdd47$lge$1...@dont-email.me>, Flint
>> >> > <age...@section31.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 1/20/2012 7:13 AM, David Fritzinger wrote:
>> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> > <Jason-20011...@67-150-171-47.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> >> >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> In article<jfa004$6um$4...@dont-email.me>, DanielSan
>> >> >> >> <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> On 1/19/2012 12:57 PM, Jason wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> <brevity snip>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> Regardless, I believed what he had to say about the CoLB.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Because you're a racist.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Alan Keyes is a black man. Are you saying that I am a racist
>> >> >> >> for believing a black man. Beam me up Scotty.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Alan Keyes is an idiot, who was bitter because Obama
>> >> >> > completely destroyed when they were opponents in the 2004
>> >> >> > Illinois Senate race. You are not a racist for believing him.
>> >> >> > However, you are a racist for believing the lies he told
>> >> >> > (because you wanted to believe them), just as you are a
>> >> >> > racist for believing Obama wasn't a natural born citizen, for
>> >> >> > believing he is a socialist (when you don't have any idea of
>> >> >> > what a socialist actually is) or a secret Muslim, when there
>> >> >> > is no evidence that he is. The fact that, to you, Obama is
>> >> >> > the "other", and is somehow unAmerican. That is why
>> >> >> > you are a racist.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Me thinks someone needs to explain to Fritzy what racism is.
>> >> >> He is rather clumsily playing the race card, or suffers from
>> >> >> white guilt to be constantly invoking the race card.
>> >> >
>> >> > Lots of liberals do it. McCain was so afraid of being labelled a
>> >> > racist that he rarely ever said anything negative about Obama.
>> >> > That is one of the reasons he lost the election.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Candidates almost never say negative things about
>> >> their opponents, they let their surrogates do that for
>> >> them. Bush didn't have to attack Kerry over his military
>> >> record, he had the Swiftboaters to do that for him. McCain
>> >> didn't have to question Obama's nativity, he had the
>> >> Birthers to do that for him, Perry didn't have to make an
>> >> issue of Cain's adultery, he had his handlers do that for
>> >> him.
>> >>
>> >> Indeed, candidates can safely PRAISE their oppenents
>> >> as long as others are doing the dirty work.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "I think his service is heroic. I think him going
>> >> to Vietnam was more heroic than my flying fighter
>> >> jets. He was in harm's way and I wasn't."
>> >> - President Bush on John Kerry's service in Vietnam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >And Mrs. Clinton's staff member started the rumors that Obama was
>> >born
> in Kenya.
>> >
>> So you claim, but you will believe anything that insults our
>> president. You have a shameful lack of respect for your country.
>
> I claim it since it is a known fact.
Didn't you find it odd that the Birthers attacked
OBama for travelling to Kenya and never once questioned
how this "foreign born" candidate got a US passport to
do so?
Jason
Jan 23, 2012, 3:41:18 AM1/23/12
to
In article <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00F...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Probably because he used his CoLB to get the US passport.
Free Lunch
Jan 23, 2012, 6:17:36 AM1/23/12
to
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:41:18 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
He presented his birth certificate just as everyone else has to do to
get a passport. Do you even have a passport?
get a passport. Do you even have a passport?
David Fritzinger
Jan 23, 2012, 6:43:51 AM1/23/12
to
In article
<Jason-23011...@66-53-215-109.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
US.
<Jason-23011...@66-53-215-109.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00F...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
[snip]
> In article <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00F...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Didn't you find it odd that the Birthers attacked
> > OBama for travelling to Kenya and never once questioned
> > how this "foreign born" candidate got a US passport to
> > do so?
>
> Probably because he used his CoLB to get the US passport.
Which says his CoLB was a legal document that proved he was born in the
> > Didn't you find it odd that the Birthers attacked
> > OBama for travelling to Kenya and never once questioned
> > how this "foreign born" candidate got a US passport to
> > do so?
>
> Probably because he used his CoLB to get the US passport.
US.
RichTravsky
Jan 26, 2012, 4:37:28 PM1/26/12
to
Jason
Jan 26, 2012, 5:18:51 PM1/26/12
to
In article <4F21C798...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
I did not find it odd and doubt they found it odd since we all guessed
that he got the US passport by making use of his CoLB. As I have stated,
we once believed his CoLB was a fraud. We were wrong.
that he got the US passport by making use of his CoLB. As I have stated,
we once believed his CoLB was a fraud. We were wrong.
RichTravsky
Feb 1, 2012, 12:03:20 AM2/1/12
to
passport???
Elementary.
Jason
Feb 1, 2012, 2:21:02 AM2/1/12
to
In article <4F28C798...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
It's my guess that lots of people from America have gotten passports with
fake CoLBs and fake birth certificates. I once saw a television show about
how easy it is to get fake green cards in Mexico and near our border with
Mexico. One person in my city was arrested for making fake California
driver's licenses. He was a college student.
fake CoLBs and fake birth certificates. I once saw a television show about
how easy it is to get fake green cards in Mexico and near our border with
Mexico. One person in my city was arrested for making fake California
driver's licenses. He was a college student.
David Fritzinger
Feb 1, 2012, 7:08:40 AM2/1/12
to
In article
<Jason-31011...@67-150-171-32.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> I once saw a television show about
> how easy it is to get fake green cards in Mexico and near our border with
> Mexico. One person in my city was arrested for making fake California
> driver's licenses. He was a college student.
Did the governor of the state of issuance support these fake CoLBs? Did
the governor support the fake drivers license?
<Jason-31011...@67-150-171-32.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <4F28C798...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jason wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <4F21C798...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
> > > <traRvE...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jason wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00F...@216.196.121.131>,
> > > > > Mitchell
> > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Didn't you find it odd that the Birthers attacked
> > > > > > OBama for travelling to Kenya and never once questioned
> > > > > > how this "foreign born" candidate got a US passport to
> > > > > > do so?
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably because he used his CoLB to get the US passport.
> > > >
> > > > That's not what was asked.
> > >
> > > I did not find it odd and doubt they found it odd since we all guessed
> > > that he got the US passport by making use of his CoLB. As I have stated,
> > > we once believed his CoLB was a fraud. We were wrong.
> >
> > Perhaps one of your first clues was that he couldn't have gotten the
> > passport???
> >
> > Elementary.
>
> It's my guess that lots of people from America have gotten passports with
> fake CoLBs and fake birth certificates.
Provide evidence for this ridiculous claim, or retract it.
> In article <4F28C798...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jason wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <4F21C798...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
> > > <traRvE...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jason wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00F...@216.196.121.131>,
> > > > > Mitchell
> > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Didn't you find it odd that the Birthers attacked
> > > > > > OBama for travelling to Kenya and never once questioned
> > > > > > how this "foreign born" candidate got a US passport to
> > > > > > do so?
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably because he used his CoLB to get the US passport.
> > > >
> > > > That's not what was asked.
> > >
> > > I did not find it odd and doubt they found it odd since we all guessed
> > > that he got the US passport by making use of his CoLB. As I have stated,
> > > we once believed his CoLB was a fraud. We were wrong.
> >
> > Perhaps one of your first clues was that he couldn't have gotten the
> > passport???
> >
> > Elementary.
>
> It's my guess that lots of people from America have gotten passports with
> fake CoLBs and fake birth certificates.
> I once saw a television show about
> how easy it is to get fake green cards in Mexico and near our border with
> Mexico. One person in my city was arrested for making fake California
> driver's licenses. He was a college student.
the governor support the fake drivers license?
Mitchell Holman
Feb 1, 2012, 8:57:41 AM2/1/12
to
David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:dfritzin-D00583...@news.eternal-september.org:
Since when has Jason backed up a claim?
"Real Christians would never end up in prison."
Jason, Jan 7 2012 - unaware that Jesus himself
ended up in prison.
news:dfritzin-D00583...@news.eternal-september.org:
"Real Christians would never end up in prison."
Jason, Jan 7 2012 - unaware that Jesus himself
ended up in prison.
Wombat
Feb 1, 2012, 12:30:20 PM2/1/12
to
On Feb 1, 2:57 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote innews:dfritzin-D00583...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <Jason-3101122321020...@67-150-171-32.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> >> In article <4F28C798.A4DF6...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
> >> <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Jason wrote:
>
> >> > > In article <4F21C798.E8B90...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
> >> > > > > <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00Fnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote innews:dfritzin-D00583...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <Jason-3101122321020...@67-150-171-32.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> >> In article <4F28C798.A4DF6...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
> >> <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Jason wrote:
>
> >> > > In article <4F21C798.E8B90...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
> >> > > > > <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00Fnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> >> > > > > Mitchell
> >> > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > Didn't you find it odd that the Birthers attacked
> >> > > > > > OBama for travelling to Kenya and never once questioned
> >> > > > > > how this "foreign born" candidate got a US passport to
> >> > > > > > do so?
>
> >> > > > > Probably because he used his CoLB to get the US passport.
>
> >> > > > That's not what was asked.
>
> >> > > I did not find it odd and doubt they found it odd since we all
> >> > > guessed that he got the US passport by making use of his CoLB. As
> >> > > I have stated, we once believed his CoLB was a fraud. We were
> >> > > wrong.
>
> >> > Perhaps one of your first clues was that he couldn't have gotten
> >> > the passport???
>
> >> > Elementary.
>
> >> It's my guess that lots of people from America have gotten passports
> >> with fake CoLBs and fake birth certificates.
>
> > Provide evidence for this ridiculous claim, or retract it.
>
> Since when has Jason backed up a claim?
>
> "Real Christians would never end up in prison."
> Jason, Jan 7 2012 - unaware that Jesus himself
> ended up in prison.
Plus all those Christians thrown to the lions.
> >> > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > Didn't you find it odd that the Birthers attacked
> >> > > > > > OBama for travelling to Kenya and never once questioned
> >> > > > > > how this "foreign born" candidate got a US passport to
> >> > > > > > do so?
>
> >> > > > > Probably because he used his CoLB to get the US passport.
>
> >> > > > That's not what was asked.
>
> >> > > I did not find it odd and doubt they found it odd since we all
> >> > > guessed that he got the US passport by making use of his CoLB. As
> >> > > I have stated, we once believed his CoLB was a fraud. We were
> >> > > wrong.
>
> >> > Perhaps one of your first clues was that he couldn't have gotten
> >> > the passport???
>
> >> > Elementary.
>
> >> It's my guess that lots of people from America have gotten passports
> >> with fake CoLBs and fake birth certificates.
>
> > Provide evidence for this ridiculous claim, or retract it.
>
> Since when has Jason backed up a claim?
>
> "Real Christians would never end up in prison."
> Jason, Jan 7 2012 - unaware that Jesus himself
> ended up in prison.
Devils Advocaat
Feb 1, 2012, 3:05:08 PM2/1/12
to
Jason
Feb 1, 2012, 9:10:20 PM2/1/12
to
Jason
Feb 1, 2012, 9:12:28 PM2/1/12
to
In article
<a34ab38c-8723-45cd...@db5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2:57=A0pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote innews:dfritzin-=
> D00583.070...@news.eternal-september.org:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article
> > > <Jason-3101122321020...@67-150-171-32.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
presently living in America. Yes, there are lots of Christians in prison
in Muslim countries.
<a34ab38c-8723-45cd...@db5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2:57=A0pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote innews:dfritzin-=
> D00583.070...@news.eternal-september.org:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article
> > > <Jason-3101122321020...@67-150-171-32.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > >> In article <4F28C798.A4DF6...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
> > >> <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> > Jason wrote:
> >
> > >> > > In article <4F21C798.E8B90...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
> > >> > > <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> > > > Jason wrote:
> >
> > >> > > > > In article
> > >> > > > > <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00Fnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> > >> > > > > Mitchell
> > >> > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> > > > > > =A0 =A0 Didn't you find it odd that the Birthers attacked
> >
> > >> In article <4F28C798.A4DF6...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
> > >> <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> > Jason wrote:
> >
> > >> > > In article <4F21C798.E8B90...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
> > >> > > <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> > > > Jason wrote:
> >
> > >> > > > > In article
> > >> > > > > <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00Fnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> > >> > > > > Mitchell
> > >> > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> > > > > > OBama for travelling to Kenya and never once questioned
> > >> > > > > > how this "foreign born" candidate got a US passport to
> > >> > > > > > do so?
> >
> > >> > > > > Probably because he used his CoLB to get the US passport.
> >
> > >> > > > That's not what was asked.
> >
> > >> > > I did not find it odd and doubt they found it odd since we all
> > >> > > guessed that he got the US passport by making use of his CoLB. As
> > >> > > I have stated, we once believed his CoLB was a fraud. We were
> > >> > > wrong.
> >
> > >> > Perhaps one of your first clues was that he couldn't have gotten
> > >> > the passport???
> >
> > >> > Elementary.
> >
> > >> It's my guess that lots of people from America have gotten passports
> > >> with fake CoLBs and fake birth certificates.
> >
> > > Provide evidence for this ridiculous claim, or retract it.
> >
> > =A0 =A0 Since when has Jason backed up a claim?
> > >> > > > > > how this "foreign born" candidate got a US passport to
> > >> > > > > > do so?
> >
> > >> > > > > Probably because he used his CoLB to get the US passport.
> >
> > >> > > > That's not what was asked.
> >
> > >> > > I did not find it odd and doubt they found it odd since we all
> > >> > > guessed that he got the US passport by making use of his CoLB. As
> > >> > > I have stated, we once believed his CoLB was a fraud. We were
> > >> > > wrong.
> >
> > >> > Perhaps one of your first clues was that he couldn't have gotten
> > >> > the passport???
> >
> > >> > Elementary.
> >
> > >> It's my guess that lots of people from America have gotten passports
> > >> with fake CoLBs and fake birth certificates.
> >
> > > Provide evidence for this ridiculous claim, or retract it.
> >
> >
> > "Real Christians would never end up in prison."
> > Jason, Jan 7 2012 - unaware that Jesus himself
> > ended up in prison.
>
> Plus all those Christians thrown to the lions.
Good point. I should have stated that I was discussing Christians
> > "Real Christians would never end up in prison."
> > Jason, Jan 7 2012 - unaware that Jesus himself
> > ended up in prison.
>
> Plus all those Christians thrown to the lions.
presently living in America. Yes, there are lots of Christians in prison
in Muslim countries.
Wombat
Feb 2, 2012, 5:45:56 AM2/2/12
to
> <a34ab38c-8723-45cd-b9d5-6c8e7afb0...@db5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Lots? Cite?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
> > On Feb 1, 2:57=A0pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote innews:dfritzin-=
> > D00583.07084001022...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
> > On Feb 1, 2:57=A0pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote innews:dfritzin-=
David Fritzinger
Feb 2, 2012, 7:11:54 AM2/2/12
to
In article <Jason-01021...@66-53-217-56.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
So, what makes the Case of Barack Obama different, where you believed
the Republican governor of the state of issuance (Hawaii) lied about it?
I already know the answer, Jason. Obama is black.
the Republican governor of the state of issuance (Hawaii) lied about it?
I already know the answer, Jason. Obama is black.
Jason
Feb 2, 2012, 4:36:22 PM2/2/12
to
In article <dfritzin-4BA289...@news.eternal-september.org>,
We believed he was lying since he was afraid that Obama (if he won the
election) would cut some of the federal money flowing to his state.
Governors want to get as much money as possible from the federal gov't.
That means they don't ever want to make an enemy out of the
president--unless they are stupid.
election) would cut some of the federal money flowing to his state.
Governors want to get as much money as possible from the federal gov't.
That means they don't ever want to make an enemy out of the
president--unless they are stupid.
tirebiter
Feb 2, 2012, 6:04:18 PM2/2/12
to
On Feb 2, 4:36 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-4BA289.07115302022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <Jason-0102121810210...@66-53-217-56.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <dfritzin-D00583.07084001022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > In article
> > > > <Jason-3101122321020...@67-150-171-32.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > > In article <4F28C798.A4DF6...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
> > > > > <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Jason wrote:
>
> > > > > > > In article <4F21C798.E8B90...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
> > > > > > > <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Jason wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > In article <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00Fnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
First you idiot, you've been told MANY TIMES that the Governor was a
WOMAN.
Second, if she declared that his BC was fake, he would have had to
drop out of the race AND STOP RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
Third, the President CAN'T CHANGE HOW MUCH MONEY GOES TO THE STATES.
If so, wouldn't President Obama be cutting off money to the red states
now?
You are showing your racism and bigotry, along with your stupidity.
---
a.a. #2273
> In article <dfritzin-4BA289.07115302022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <Jason-0102121810210...@66-53-217-56.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <dfritzin-D00583.07084001022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > In article
> > > > <Jason-3101122321020...@67-150-171-32.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > > In article <4F28C798.A4DF6...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
> > > > > <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Jason wrote:
>
> > > > > > > In article <4F21C798.E8B90...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
> > > > > > > <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Jason wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > In article <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00Fnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
WOMAN.
Second, if she declared that his BC was fake, he would have had to
drop out of the race AND STOP RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
Third, the President CAN'T CHANGE HOW MUCH MONEY GOES TO THE STATES.
If so, wouldn't President Obama be cutting off money to the red states
now?
You are showing your racism and bigotry, along with your stupidity.
---
a.a. #2273
David Fritzinger
Feb 2, 2012, 7:06:39 PM2/2/12
to
In article
<Jason-02021...@67-150-173-38.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
First of all, it was a she (Linda Lingle-don't you know anything?). Your
assertion is ridiculous, since she campaigned strongly for McCain during
the election, and she had verified the CoLB *before* the election.
> Governors want to get as much money as possible from the federal gov't.
> That means they don't ever want to make an enemy out of the
> president--unless they are stupid.
You are lying, as shown by the fact that Linda Lingle, the Republican
governor of Hawaii verified the CoLB *before* the election, then she
went and campaigned strongly for McCain. If she was afraid that Obama
would cut money from her state, she wouldn't have campaigned for McCain.
Besides, one of the most powerful senators, Daniel Inouye is from
Hawaii, and he would make very sure that no money was withheld from his
state. Another reason is that much of the federal money that goes to
Hawaii goes there to support the military. That is not something Obama
could have cut.
The bottom line is that your assertions above are ridiculous, and just
serve as more evidence of your racism.
<Jason-02021...@67-150-173-38.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
assertion is ridiculous, since she campaigned strongly for McCain during
the election, and she had verified the CoLB *before* the election.
> Governors want to get as much money as possible from the federal gov't.
> That means they don't ever want to make an enemy out of the
> president--unless they are stupid.
governor of Hawaii verified the CoLB *before* the election, then she
went and campaigned strongly for McCain. If she was afraid that Obama
would cut money from her state, she wouldn't have campaigned for McCain.
Besides, one of the most powerful senators, Daniel Inouye is from
Hawaii, and he would make very sure that no money was withheld from his
state. Another reason is that much of the federal money that goes to
Hawaii goes there to support the military. That is not something Obama
could have cut.
The bottom line is that your assertions above are ridiculous, and just
serve as more evidence of your racism.
Free Lunch
Feb 2, 2012, 7:18:14 PM2/2/12
to
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:36:22 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:
>In article <dfritzin-4BA289...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
...
with. You don't believe anything because you have no idea what you are
talking about.
You can deny that you are a racist, but that doesn't matter to me, you
repeatedly make up excuses for the most outrageous racist lies. Whether
you think you are racist or not doesn't matter. You may not think you
are, but your behavior tells us that you approve of racists and the evil
they do.
alt.talk.creationism:
>In article <dfritzin-4BA289...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> So, what makes the Case of Barack Obama different, where you believed
>> the Republican governor of the state of issuance (Hawaii) lied about it?
>>
>> I already know the answer, Jason. Obama is black.
>
>We believed he was lying since he was afraid that Obama (if he won the
>election) would cut some of the federal money flowing to his state.
>Governors want to get as much money as possible from the federal gov't.
>That means they don't ever want to make an enemy out of the
>president--unless they are stupid.
>
You are making up excuses for the racists you are making common cause
>> the Republican governor of the state of issuance (Hawaii) lied about it?
>>
>> I already know the answer, Jason. Obama is black.
>
>We believed he was lying since he was afraid that Obama (if he won the
>election) would cut some of the federal money flowing to his state.
>Governors want to get as much money as possible from the federal gov't.
>That means they don't ever want to make an enemy out of the
>president--unless they are stupid.
>
with. You don't believe anything because you have no idea what you are
talking about.
You can deny that you are a racist, but that doesn't matter to me, you
repeatedly make up excuses for the most outrageous racist lies. Whether
you think you are racist or not doesn't matter. You may not think you
are, but your behavior tells us that you approve of racists and the evil
they do.
Jason
Feb 3, 2012, 2:37:53 AM2/3/12
to
In article <dfritzin-F5E120...@news.eternal-september.org>,
We made the mistake of believing a rumor that was started by a supporter
of Hillary Clinton. That is what we get for believing a liberal democrat.
of Hillary Clinton. That is what we get for believing a liberal democrat.
Jason
Feb 3, 2012, 2:39:22 AM2/3/12
to
In article <uq9mi7ds3v6e5d2ki...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
I also played a small role in keeping Kerry from being elected. Does that
mean that I also hate all white people. Beam me up Scotty.
mean that I also hate all white people. Beam me up Scotty.
David Fritzinger
Feb 3, 2012, 7:15:12 AM2/3/12
to
In article
<Jason-02021...@67-150-168-58.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
You haven't even shown evidence that your claim above is real. You are
not only a racist, but a lying racist.
<Jason-02021...@67-150-168-58.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
not only a racist, but a lying racist.
tirebiter
Feb 3, 2012, 7:54:25 AM2/3/12
to
On Feb 3, 2:37 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-F5E120.19063902022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > <Jason-0202121336220...@67-150-173-38.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > > > > In article <4F28C798.A4DF6...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
> > > > > > > <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Jason wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > In article <4F21C798.E8B90...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
And not believing conservative republicans? Such as the GOVERNOR OF
HAWAII?
You still never explained how a poor teenaged mother smuggled a
newborn baby from Kenya to Hawaii without notice. Or why she would
risk her baby's life and the very real chance of going to prison.
You are a terrible person.
---
a.a. #2273
> In article <dfritzin-F5E120.19063902022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > <Jason-0202121336220...@67-150-173-38.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <dfritzin-4BA289.07115302022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > In article <Jason-0102121810210...@66-53-217-56.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>
> > > In article <dfritzin-4BA289.07115302022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > > In article <dfritzin-D00583.07084001022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <Jason-3101122321020...@67-150-171-32.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>
> > > > > In article <dfritzin-D00583.07084001022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > > > > In article <4F28C798.A4DF6...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
> > > > > > > <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Jason wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > In article <4F21C798.E8B90...@hotmail.com>, RichTravsky
> > > > > > > > > <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Jason wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > <Xns9FE2E1FE9F00Fnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > > > > > > > > Jason wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
HAWAII?
You still never explained how a poor teenaged mother smuggled a
newborn baby from Kenya to Hawaii without notice. Or why she would
risk her baby's life and the very real chance of going to prison.
You are a terrible person.
---
a.a. #2273
tirebiter
Feb 3, 2012, 7:56:55 AM2/3/12
to
On Feb 3, 2:39 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <uq9mi7ds3v6e5d2ki2dupc2arisauum...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
many times.
Believing the "swiftboaters" even after their lies were denied by the
actual people who were present is verifiable evidence of your horrible
bigotry.
---
a.a. #2273
> In article <uq9mi7ds3v6e5d2ki2dupc2arisauum...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:36:22 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > alt.talk.creationism:
>
> > >In article <dfritzin-4BA289.07115302022...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:36:22 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > alt.talk.creationism:
>
> > >David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > >> So, what makes the Case of Barack Obama different, where you believed
> > >> the Republican governor of the state of issuance (Hawaii) lied about it?
>
> > >> I already know the answer, Jason. Obama is black.
>
> > >We believed he was lying since he was afraid that Obama (if he won the
> > >election) would cut some of the federal money flowing to his state.
> > >Governors want to get as much money as possible from the federal gov't.
> > >That means they don't ever want to make an enemy out of the
> > >president--unless they are stupid.
>
> > You are making up excuses for the racists you are making common cause
> > with. You don't believe anything because you have no idea what you are
> > talking about.
>
> > You can deny that you are a racist, but that doesn't matter to me, you
> > repeatedly make up excuses for the most outrageous racist lies. Whether
> > you think you are racist or not doesn't matter. You may not think you
> > are, but your behavior tells us that you approve of racists and the evil
> > they do.
>
> I also played a small role in keeping Kerry from being elected. Does that
> mean that I also hate all white people. Beam me up Scotty.
You are a bigot, who blindly hates whole groups. You've stated it
> > ...
> > >> So, what makes the Case of Barack Obama different, where you believed
> > >> the Republican governor of the state of issuance (Hawaii) lied about it?
>
> > >> I already know the answer, Jason. Obama is black.
>
> > >We believed he was lying since he was afraid that Obama (if he won the
> > >election) would cut some of the federal money flowing to his state.
> > >Governors want to get as much money as possible from the federal gov't.
> > >That means they don't ever want to make an enemy out of the
> > >president--unless they are stupid.
>
> > You are making up excuses for the racists you are making common cause
> > with. You don't believe anything because you have no idea what you are
> > talking about.
>
> > You can deny that you are a racist, but that doesn't matter to me, you
> > repeatedly make up excuses for the most outrageous racist lies. Whether
> > you think you are racist or not doesn't matter. You may not think you
> > are, but your behavior tells us that you approve of racists and the evil
> > they do.
>
> I also played a small role in keeping Kerry from being elected. Does that
> mean that I also hate all white people. Beam me up Scotty.
many times.
Believing the "swiftboaters" even after their lies were denied by the
actual people who were present is verifiable evidence of your horrible
bigotry.
---
a.a. #2273
Jason
Feb 4, 2012, 2:43:52 AM2/4/12
to
In article <dfritzin-F0CF7D...@news.eternal-september.org>,
I posted the first page of a google search page on that subject. One
poster told me the name of that man was on that page. He was a liberal
supporter of Hillary Clinton. He done it to help Hillary Clinton win the
primaries. His plan did not work. Some conservatives tried hard to find
evidence that Hillary Clinton started those rumors. They failed to find
any evidence that Hillary Clinton spread any rumors.
poster told me the name of that man was on that page. He was a liberal
supporter of Hillary Clinton. He done it to help Hillary Clinton win the
primaries. His plan did not work. Some conservatives tried hard to find
evidence that Hillary Clinton started those rumors. They failed to find
any evidence that Hillary Clinton spread any rumors.
David Fritzinger
Feb 4, 2012, 7:38:15 AM2/4/12
to
In article
<Jason-03021...@67-150-172-150.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
the sites, and only post the urls for ones that are pertinent. The rest
of us do that. Why are you so lazy.
My recollection of your sites is that it was nothing but rumors, and it
wouldn't surprise me if most of the sites were right-wing hate sites.
<Jason-03021...@67-150-172-150.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-F0CF7D...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <Jason-02021...@67-150-168-58.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <dfritzin-F5E120...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
> In article <dfritzin-F0CF7D...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <Jason-02021...@67-150-168-58.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <dfritzin-F5E120...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > You are lying, as shown by the fact that Linda Lingle, the Republican
> > > > governor of Hawaii verified the CoLB *before* the election, then she
> > > > went and campaigned strongly for McCain. If she was afraid that Obama
> > > > would cut money from her state, she wouldn't have campaigned for
> > > > McCain.
> > > > Besides, one of the most powerful senators, Daniel Inouye is from
> > > > Hawaii, and he would make very sure that no money was withheld from his
> > > > state. Another reason is that much of the federal money that goes to
> > > > Hawaii goes there to support the military. That is not something Obama
> > > > could have cut.
> > > >
> > > > The bottom line is that your assertions above are ridiculous, and just
> > > > serve as more evidence of your racism.
> > >
> > > We made the mistake of believing a rumor that was started by a supporter
> > > of Hillary Clinton. That is what we get for believing a liberal democrat.
> >
> > You haven't even shown evidence that your claim above is real. You are
> > not only a racist, but a lying racist.
>
> I posted the first page of a google search page on that subject. One
> poster told me the name of that man was on that page. He was a liberal
> supporter of Hillary Clinton. He done it to help Hillary Clinton win the
> primaries. His plan did not work. Some conservatives tried hard to find
> evidence that Hillary Clinton started those rumors. They failed to find
> any evidence that Hillary Clinton spread any rumors.
Stop posting "the first page of a google search". Instead, read some of
> > > > governor of Hawaii verified the CoLB *before* the election, then she
> > > > went and campaigned strongly for McCain. If she was afraid that Obama
> > > > would cut money from her state, she wouldn't have campaigned for
> > > > McCain.
> > > > Besides, one of the most powerful senators, Daniel Inouye is from
> > > > Hawaii, and he would make very sure that no money was withheld from his
> > > > state. Another reason is that much of the federal money that goes to
> > > > Hawaii goes there to support the military. That is not something Obama
> > > > could have cut.
> > > >
> > > > The bottom line is that your assertions above are ridiculous, and just
> > > > serve as more evidence of your racism.
> > >
> > > We made the mistake of believing a rumor that was started by a supporter
> > > of Hillary Clinton. That is what we get for believing a liberal democrat.
> >
> > You haven't even shown evidence that your claim above is real. You are
> > not only a racist, but a lying racist.
>
> I posted the first page of a google search page on that subject. One
> poster told me the name of that man was on that page. He was a liberal
> supporter of Hillary Clinton. He done it to help Hillary Clinton win the
> primaries. His plan did not work. Some conservatives tried hard to find
> evidence that Hillary Clinton started those rumors. They failed to find
> any evidence that Hillary Clinton spread any rumors.
the sites, and only post the urls for ones that are pertinent. The rest
of us do that. Why are you so lazy.
My recollection of your sites is that it was nothing but rumors, and it
wouldn't surprise me if most of the sites were right-wing hate sites.
Free Lunch
Feb 4, 2012, 9:40:11 AM2/4/12
to
On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:43:52 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:
>In article <dfritzin-F0CF7D...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
...
>> You haven't even shown evidence that your claim above is real. You are
>> not only a racist, but a lying racist.
>
>I posted the first page of a google search page on that subject. One
>poster told me the name of that man was on that page. He was a liberal
>supporter of Hillary Clinton. He done it to help Hillary Clinton win the
>primaries. His plan did not work. Some conservatives tried hard to find
>evidence that Hillary Clinton started those rumors. They failed to find
>any evidence that Hillary Clinton spread any rumors.
>
You lie to us all the time. Why should we believe this claim?
alt.talk.creationism:
>In article <dfritzin-F0CF7D...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You haven't even shown evidence that your claim above is real. You are
>> not only a racist, but a lying racist.
>
>I posted the first page of a google search page on that subject. One
>poster told me the name of that man was on that page. He was a liberal
>supporter of Hillary Clinton. He done it to help Hillary Clinton win the
>primaries. His plan did not work. Some conservatives tried hard to find
>evidence that Hillary Clinton started those rumors. They failed to find
>any evidence that Hillary Clinton spread any rumors.
>
Jason
Feb 5, 2012, 3:50:23 AM2/5/12
to
In article <dfritzin-5621C4...@news.eternal-september.org>,
I did find a google search page that had a URL that had two lines.
You may be correct--mostly rumors.
You may be correct--mostly rumors.
Jason
Feb 5, 2012, 3:56:51 AM2/5/12
to
In article <hpgqi7lkurm5gc2qu...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
Results 1 - 10 of about 16,700,000 for "Andy Martin spread rumor"
Wikinews interviews Andy Martin, U.S. Republican Party presidential ...
Aug 8, 2011 ... According to The New York Times, Martin first spread the
'Obama is a Muslim'
rumor via press release following then-Senate ... Andy Martin: I did
indeed found
the łBirther˛ movement questioning Barack Obama's origins in ...
en.wikinews.org/.../Wikinews_interviews_Andy_Martin,_U.S._Republican_
Party_presidential_candidate - 84k - Cached - Similar pages
Andy Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Anthony Robert Martin-Trigona, usually known as Andy Martin (born 1945) is ....
only to pick up again in 2006 as rumors spread that Obama was considering a ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin - 139k - Cached - Similar pages
Study: news fuels rumors about Obama being Muslim | mndaily.com ...
Sep 30, 2010 ... Southwell and Weeks' paper points to a single political
blogger, Andy Martin, as
having first spread the rumor about Obama's connection to ...
www.mndaily.com/.../study-news-fuels-rumors-about-obama-being-muslim - 51k
- Cached - Similar pages
'Obama's a Muslim' rumor author exposed: The Swamp
Oct 13, 2008 ... Isn't "Andy Martin" the same person formerly known in
Illinois as "Andrew ... to be
called out for the lies and rumors that they continually spread.
www.swamppolitics.com/.../obamas_muslim_rumor_creator_ex.html - 186k -
Cached - Similar pages
Daily Kos: Andy Martin, the Man Who Started Rumors about the ...
Apr 28, 2011 ... The rumors were started by a man named Andy Martin. ...
FreeRepublic.com, and
spread steadily as others elaborated on its claims over the ...
www.dailykos.com/.../-Andy-Martin,-the-Man-Who-Started-Rumors-about-
the-POTUS - 58k - Cached - Similar pages
Andy Warhol Quotes - BrainyQuote
Andy Warhol I have Social Disease. I have to go out every night. If I stay home
one night I start spreading rumors to my dogs. Andy Warhol I like boring things.
www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/andy_warhol.html - 28k - Cached -
Similar pages
Andy Martin - Metapedia
... only to pick up again in 2006 as rumors spread that ... Andy Martin
believes the
real father of Barack Obama was ...
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin - 37k - Cached - Similar pages
Andy Martin False Obama Muslim Rumor
May 25, 2011 ... Andy Martin False Obama Muslim Rumor ... The false rumor
that Barack Obama
is a Muslim spread quickly and widely throughout the internet.
www.stylelist.com/tag/andy-martin-false-obama-muslim-rumor - 122k - Cached
- Similar pages
Election of 1828 - President Andrew Jackson Elected After Dirty ...
The Campaign That Elected Andrew Jackson President Was Brutal ... he
managed to align himself with the New York political power broker Martin Van
Buren. ... The supporters of Andrew Jackson began spreading a rumor that
Adams, while ...
history1800s.about.com/od/leaders/a/electionof1828.htm - 29k - Cached -
Similar pages
Associated Press attacks Andy Martin with new distortions ...
Oct 28, 2008 ... Andy Martin on łObama and Islam, Again,˛ a recapitulation
... He said spreading
rumors is łdisgusting and I never do it˛ but conceded that his ...
contrariancommentary.wordpress.com/.../associated-press-attacks-andy-
martin-with-new-distortions/
Wikinews interviews Andy Martin, U.S. Republican Party presidential ...
Aug 8, 2011 ... According to The New York Times, Martin first spread the
'Obama is a Muslim'
rumor via press release following then-Senate ... Andy Martin: I did
indeed found
the łBirther˛ movement questioning Barack Obama's origins in ...
en.wikinews.org/.../Wikinews_interviews_Andy_Martin,_U.S._Republican_
Party_presidential_candidate - 84k - Cached - Similar pages
Andy Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Anthony Robert Martin-Trigona, usually known as Andy Martin (born 1945) is ....
only to pick up again in 2006 as rumors spread that Obama was considering a ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin - 139k - Cached - Similar pages
Study: news fuels rumors about Obama being Muslim | mndaily.com ...
Sep 30, 2010 ... Southwell and Weeks' paper points to a single political
blogger, Andy Martin, as
having first spread the rumor about Obama's connection to ...
www.mndaily.com/.../study-news-fuels-rumors-about-obama-being-muslim - 51k
- Cached - Similar pages
'Obama's a Muslim' rumor author exposed: The Swamp
Oct 13, 2008 ... Isn't "Andy Martin" the same person formerly known in
Illinois as "Andrew ... to be
called out for the lies and rumors that they continually spread.
www.swamppolitics.com/.../obamas_muslim_rumor_creator_ex.html - 186k -
Cached - Similar pages
Daily Kos: Andy Martin, the Man Who Started Rumors about the ...
Apr 28, 2011 ... The rumors were started by a man named Andy Martin. ...
FreeRepublic.com, and
spread steadily as others elaborated on its claims over the ...
www.dailykos.com/.../-Andy-Martin,-the-Man-Who-Started-Rumors-about-
the-POTUS - 58k - Cached - Similar pages
Andy Warhol Quotes - BrainyQuote
Andy Warhol I have Social Disease. I have to go out every night. If I stay home
one night I start spreading rumors to my dogs. Andy Warhol I like boring things.
www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/andy_warhol.html - 28k - Cached -
Similar pages
Andy Martin - Metapedia
... only to pick up again in 2006 as rumors spread that ... Andy Martin
believes the
real father of Barack Obama was ...
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin - 37k - Cached - Similar pages
Andy Martin False Obama Muslim Rumor
May 25, 2011 ... Andy Martin False Obama Muslim Rumor ... The false rumor
that Barack Obama
is a Muslim spread quickly and widely throughout the internet.
www.stylelist.com/tag/andy-martin-false-obama-muslim-rumor - 122k - Cached
- Similar pages
Election of 1828 - President Andrew Jackson Elected After Dirty ...
The Campaign That Elected Andrew Jackson President Was Brutal ... he
managed to align himself with the New York political power broker Martin Van
Buren. ... The supporters of Andrew Jackson began spreading a rumor that
Adams, while ...
history1800s.about.com/od/leaders/a/electionof1828.htm - 29k - Cached -
Similar pages
Associated Press attacks Andy Martin with new distortions ...
Oct 28, 2008 ... Andy Martin on łObama and Islam, Again,˛ a recapitulation
... He said spreading
rumors is łdisgusting and I never do it˛ but conceded that his ...
contrariancommentary.wordpress.com/.../associated-press-attacks-andy-
martin-with-new-distortions/
David Fritzinger
Feb 5, 2012, 7:02:34 AM2/5/12
to
In article <Jason-05021...@66.53.221.196>,
Yet, you and the other right-wing racist fools either believed them, or
maliciously tried to keep the issue alive. That doesn't make any of you
look good.
maliciously tried to keep the issue alive. That doesn't make any of you
look good.
RichTravsky
Feb 5, 2012, 10:50:54 PM2/5/12
to
Obama used his real info.
Jason
Feb 6, 2012, 3:18:49 AM2/6/12
to
In article <dfritzin-873018...@news.eternal-september.org>,
You are correct. We should not have believed those rumors about Obama
being born in Kenya.
being born in Kenya.
Jason
Feb 6, 2012, 3:20:22 AM2/6/12
to
In article <4F2F4E1E...@hotmMOVEail.com>, RichTravsky
Yes, he used his real CoLB. We believed his CoLB was a forgery but we were
wrong.
wrong.
David Fritzinger
Feb 6, 2012, 9:43:00 AM2/6/12
to
In article <Jason-06021...@67-150-168-8.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
If you weren't such a racist, you would have realized that Obama's CoLB
was legal.
was legal.
Jason
Feb 6, 2012, 3:25:32 PM2/6/12
to
In article <dfritzin-4022D0...@news.eternal-september.org>,
We made the mistake of believing rumors spread by a liberal democrat. We
believed those rumors were facts.
believed those rumors were facts.
David Fritzinger
Feb 6, 2012, 7:04:07 PM2/6/12
to
In article
<Jason-06021...@67-150-173-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Stop lying, Jason. YOu believed conservative Republicans because you
wanted to. You wanted to because you are a racist. Deal with it.
<Jason-06021...@67-150-173-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
wanted to. You wanted to because you are a racist. Deal with it.
Free Lunch
Feb 6, 2012, 7:06:37 PM2/6/12
to
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 00:18:49 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:
Yet you believed those claims even though it never mattered. You are
truly a bigoted fool.
alt.talk.creationism:
truly a bigoted fool.
Jason
Feb 6, 2012, 7:28:58 PM2/6/12
to
In article <dfritzin-689A93...@news.eternal-september.org>,
It's related to politics--not race. We also found reasons to go after
Kerry and Clinton. Does that mean we hate white people? Of course
not---it's ALL related to politics--not race. If Romney uses economic
issues to go after Obama--does that mean he is a racist?
Kerry and Clinton. Does that mean we hate white people? Of course
not---it's ALL related to politics--not race. If Romney uses economic
issues to go after Obama--does that mean he is a racist?
Jason
Feb 7, 2012, 2:59:31 AM2/7/12
to
In article <knq0j75vedln0lnfk...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
It was about politics not race. I also believed the Swiftboaters due to
politics. That was also about politics and nothing else.
politics. That was also about politics and nothing else.
David Fritzinger
Feb 7, 2012, 7:02:24 AM2/7/12
to
In article
<Jason-06021...@67-150-171-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Now, there is something interesting about your phrasing above. "We also
found reasons to go after Kerry and Clinton." You didn't say we found
things that were wrong with them. You said "we went after them", which
certainly implies lies. We know you lied, and believed liars about
Kerry. Do you really think it is OK to lie just to get the guy you want
elected? Where is the scriptural support for such a belief?
<Jason-06021...@67-150-171-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-689A93...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
[snip]
> In article <dfritzin-689A93...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Stop lying, Jason. YOu believed conservative Republicans because you
> > wanted to. You wanted to because you are a racist. Deal with it.
>
> It's related to politics--not race. We also found reasons to go after
> Kerry and Clinton. Does that mean we hate white people? Of course
> not---it's ALL related to politics--not race. If Romney uses economic
> issues to go after Obama--does that mean he is a racist?
It's racism. You have shown it time and time again.
> > wanted to. You wanted to because you are a racist. Deal with it.
>
> It's related to politics--not race. We also found reasons to go after
> Kerry and Clinton. Does that mean we hate white people? Of course
> not---it's ALL related to politics--not race. If Romney uses economic
> issues to go after Obama--does that mean he is a racist?
Now, there is something interesting about your phrasing above. "We also
found reasons to go after Kerry and Clinton." You didn't say we found
things that were wrong with them. You said "we went after them", which
certainly implies lies. We know you lied, and believed liars about
Kerry. Do you really think it is OK to lie just to get the guy you want
elected? Where is the scriptural support for such a belief?
Jason
Feb 7, 2012, 3:50:56 PM2/7/12
to
In article <dfritzin-BAC510...@news.eternal-september.org>,
to make use of FACTS and TRUTHS to go after people. We believed we had
facts and truths on our side in relation to the Swiftboaters and Obama
being born in Kenya. Did you notice how the democrats went after CAIN.
They used FACTS and TRUTHS to go after him. You don't seem to mind when
democrats do it but you do have problems when republicans do the same
thing.
David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <Jason-06021...@67-150-171-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > In article <dfritzin-689A93...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> > > Stop lying, Jason. YOu believed conservative Republicans because you
> > > wanted to. You wanted to because you are a racist. Deal with it.
> >
> > It's related to politics--not race. We also found reasons to go after
> > Kerry and Clinton. Does that mean we hate white people? Of course
> > not---it's ALL related to politics--not race. If Romney uses economic
> > issues to go after Obama--does that mean he is a racist?
>
> It's racism. You have shown it time and time again.
>
> Now, there is something interesting about your phrasing above. "We also
> found reasons to go after Kerry and Clinton." You didn't say we found
> things that were wrong with them. You said "we went after them", which
> certainly implies lies. We know you lied, and believed liars about
> Kerry. Do you really think it is OK to lie just to get the guy you want
> elected? Where is the scriptural support for such a belief?
Good points. When "going after" people in presidental campaigns--it's best
> In article
> <Jason-06021...@67-150-171-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > In article <dfritzin-689A93...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> > > Stop lying, Jason. YOu believed conservative Republicans because you
> > > wanted to. You wanted to because you are a racist. Deal with it.
> >
> > It's related to politics--not race. We also found reasons to go after
> > Kerry and Clinton. Does that mean we hate white people? Of course
> > not---it's ALL related to politics--not race. If Romney uses economic
> > issues to go after Obama--does that mean he is a racist?
>
> It's racism. You have shown it time and time again.
>
> Now, there is something interesting about your phrasing above. "We also
> found reasons to go after Kerry and Clinton." You didn't say we found
> things that were wrong with them. You said "we went after them", which
> certainly implies lies. We know you lied, and believed liars about
> Kerry. Do you really think it is OK to lie just to get the guy you want
> elected? Where is the scriptural support for such a belief?
to make use of FACTS and TRUTHS to go after people. We believed we had
facts and truths on our side in relation to the Swiftboaters and Obama
being born in Kenya. Did you notice how the democrats went after CAIN.
They used FACTS and TRUTHS to go after him. You don't seem to mind when
democrats do it but you do have problems when republicans do the same
thing.
David Fritzinger
Feb 7, 2012, 7:17:50 PM2/7/12
to
In article
<Jason-07021...@67-150-173-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
lies, as has been amply demonstrated to anyone who is able to think.
> We believed we had
> facts and truths on our side in relation to the Swiftboaters and Obama
> being born in Kenya.
Why do you lie? It has been proven that the birthers were liars, as were
the Swift Boat Liars. Everyone who was not a racist idiot agreed that
the CoLB released by Obama was sufficient evidence that he was born in
Hawaii. Only racists such as yourseelf disagreed.
> Did you notice how the democrats went after CAIN.
Actually, it appears it was the Perry campaign that did that. At least
according to Cain. Do you have evidence it was the Democrats? Indeed,
why would the Democrats go after him in the primaries. The best thing
that could have happened to Obama would have been to have an idiot such
as Cain as his opponent.
> They used FACTS and TRUTHS to go after him. You don't seem to mind when
> democrats do it but you do have problems when republicans do the same
> thing.
You've yet to provide any evidence that the Democrats had anything
whatsoever to do with the revelations of Cain's serial abuse of women.
<Jason-07021...@67-150-173-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-BAC510...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <Jason-06021...@67-150-171-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <dfritzin-689A93...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > [snip]
> > > > Stop lying, Jason. YOu believed conservative Republicans because you
> > > > wanted to. You wanted to because you are a racist. Deal with it.
> > >
> > > It's related to politics--not race. We also found reasons to go after
> > > Kerry and Clinton. Does that mean we hate white people? Of course
> > > not---it's ALL related to politics--not race. If Romney uses economic
> > > issues to go after Obama--does that mean he is a racist?
> >
> > It's racism. You have shown it time and time again.
> >
> > Now, there is something interesting about your phrasing above. "We also
> > found reasons to go after Kerry and Clinton." You didn't say we found
> > things that were wrong with them. You said "we went after them", which
> > certainly implies lies. We know you lied, and believed liars about
> > Kerry. Do you really think it is OK to lie just to get the guy you want
> > elected? Where is the scriptural support for such a belief?
>
> Good points. When "going after" people in presidental campaigns--it's best
> to make use of FACTS and TRUTHS to go after people.
How come you use lies to do so then? Swift Boat Liars told nothing but
> In article <dfritzin-BAC510...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <Jason-06021...@67-150-171-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <dfritzin-689A93...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > [snip]
> > > > Stop lying, Jason. YOu believed conservative Republicans because you
> > > > wanted to. You wanted to because you are a racist. Deal with it.
> > >
> > > It's related to politics--not race. We also found reasons to go after
> > > Kerry and Clinton. Does that mean we hate white people? Of course
> > > not---it's ALL related to politics--not race. If Romney uses economic
> > > issues to go after Obama--does that mean he is a racist?
> >
> > It's racism. You have shown it time and time again.
> >
> > Now, there is something interesting about your phrasing above. "We also
> > found reasons to go after Kerry and Clinton." You didn't say we found
> > things that were wrong with them. You said "we went after them", which
> > certainly implies lies. We know you lied, and believed liars about
> > Kerry. Do you really think it is OK to lie just to get the guy you want
> > elected? Where is the scriptural support for such a belief?
>
> Good points. When "going after" people in presidental campaigns--it's best
> to make use of FACTS and TRUTHS to go after people.
lies, as has been amply demonstrated to anyone who is able to think.
> We believed we had
> facts and truths on our side in relation to the Swiftboaters and Obama
> being born in Kenya.
the Swift Boat Liars. Everyone who was not a racist idiot agreed that
the CoLB released by Obama was sufficient evidence that he was born in
Hawaii. Only racists such as yourseelf disagreed.
> Did you notice how the democrats went after CAIN.
according to Cain. Do you have evidence it was the Democrats? Indeed,
why would the Democrats go after him in the primaries. The best thing
that could have happened to Obama would have been to have an idiot such
as Cain as his opponent.
> They used FACTS and TRUTHS to go after him. You don't seem to mind when
> democrats do it but you do have problems when republicans do the same
> thing.
whatsoever to do with the revelations of Cain's serial abuse of women.
RichTravsky
Feb 7, 2012, 10:00:26 PM2/7/12
to
sources...
Mitchell Holman
Feb 7, 2012, 10:01:16 PM2/7/12
to
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-07021...@67-150-173-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Now you are just lying. Cain HIMSELF blamed the leaks
on the Rick Perry campaign. NOT any Democrats. This proof
has been posted here many times and you still post and
repost this lie that some "democrats" were behind it.
Why are you being so dishonest?
11/02/2011
Cain Says Perry Camp Behind Sex Harassment Leak
Was the recent attack on Herman Cain’s presidential
campaign a professional hit job? Absolutely, says
Herman Cain. And he says he knows just where to look
for the guy who did it: At 815 Slaters Lane in Alexandria,
Virginia, a low-slung former warehouse in the shadow of
a coal plant. There, beside rusting rail lines, is the
home of OnMessage Inc., a Republican-leaning consulting
firm recently hired to bolster Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s
presidential campaign.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2011/11/02/herman-cain-sexual-
harassment-leak/
news:Jason-07021...@67-150-173-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
on the Rick Perry campaign. NOT any Democrats. This proof
has been posted here many times and you still post and
repost this lie that some "democrats" were behind it.
Why are you being so dishonest?
11/02/2011
Cain Says Perry Camp Behind Sex Harassment Leak
Was the recent attack on Herman Cain’s presidential
campaign a professional hit job? Absolutely, says
Herman Cain. And he says he knows just where to look
for the guy who did it: At 815 Slaters Lane in Alexandria,
Virginia, a low-slung former warehouse in the shadow of
a coal plant. There, beside rusting rail lines, is the
home of OnMessage Inc., a Republican-leaning consulting
firm recently hired to bolster Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s
presidential campaign.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2011/11/02/herman-cain-sexual-
harassment-leak/
Jason
Feb 8, 2012, 3:52:21 AM2/8/12
to
In article <dfritzin-10AAF7...@news.eternal-september.org>,
It's a FACT that a famous democrat named Gloria Allred (a lawyer)
represented one of the woman that Cain tried to have sex with. That woman
and Gloria Allred appeared together in a major press conference. I saw a
tape of that press conference on Fox News.
represented one of the woman that Cain tried to have sex with. That woman
and Gloria Allred appeared together in a major press conference. I saw a
tape of that press conference on Fox News.
Jason
Feb 8, 2012, 3:56:01 AM2/8/12
to
In article <Xns9FF2D5A17D6E8...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
I agree that Perry may have caused those leaks--but a famous democrat
lawyer named Gloria Allred got involved in the story by representing one
of the women. The press conference was shown on most or all of the major
television networks.
lawyer named Gloria Allred got involved in the story by representing one
of the women. The press conference was shown on most or all of the major
television networks.
David Fritzinger
Feb 8, 2012, 6:51:52 AM2/8/12
to
In article
<Jason-08021...@67-150-174-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
have been a Democrat got the woman with whom Cain had a long term affair
to publicly admit that it happened, it was a plot by the Democrats to
"get" Cain. Even though Cain, being the idiot that he is, would probably
be the easiest candidate for Obama to defeat, especially since he showed
he essentially knew nothing about, well, anything.
To quote Steven Stills: "Paranoia strikes deep. Into your heart it will
creep. It starts when you're always afraid..."
<Jason-08021...@67-150-174-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <Xns9FF2D5A17D6E8...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
[snip]
> In article <Xns9FF2D5A17D6E8...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > 11/02/2011
> > Cain Says Perry Camp Behind Sex Harassment Leak
> >
> > Was the recent attack on Herman Cain’s presidential
> > campaign a professional hit job? Absolutely, says
> > Herman Cain. And he says he knows just where to look
> > for the guy who did it: At 815 Slaters Lane in Alexandria,
> > Virginia, a low-slung former warehouse in the shadow of
> > a coal plant. There, beside rusting rail lines, is the
> > home of OnMessage Inc., a Republican-leaning consulting
> > firm recently hired to bolster Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s
> > presidential campaign.
> >
> > http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2011/11/02/herman-cain-sexual-
> > harassment-leak/
>
> I agree that Perry may have caused those leaks--but a famous democrat
> lawyer named Gloria Allred got involved in the story by representing one
> of the women. The press conference was shown on most or all of the major
> television networks.
Let me get this straight. You believe that just because a lawyer who may
> > Cain Says Perry Camp Behind Sex Harassment Leak
> >
> > Was the recent attack on Herman Cain’s presidential
> > campaign a professional hit job? Absolutely, says
> > Herman Cain. And he says he knows just where to look
> > for the guy who did it: At 815 Slaters Lane in Alexandria,
> > Virginia, a low-slung former warehouse in the shadow of
> > a coal plant. There, beside rusting rail lines, is the
> > home of OnMessage Inc., a Republican-leaning consulting
> > firm recently hired to bolster Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s
> > presidential campaign.
> >
> > http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2011/11/02/herman-cain-sexual-
> > harassment-leak/
>
> I agree that Perry may have caused those leaks--but a famous democrat
> lawyer named Gloria Allred got involved in the story by representing one
> of the women. The press conference was shown on most or all of the major
> television networks.
have been a Democrat got the woman with whom Cain had a long term affair
to publicly admit that it happened, it was a plot by the Democrats to
"get" Cain. Even though Cain, being the idiot that he is, would probably
be the easiest candidate for Obama to defeat, especially since he showed
he essentially knew nothing about, well, anything.
To quote Steven Stills: "Paranoia strikes deep. Into your heart it will
creep. It starts when you're always afraid..."
David Fritzinger
Feb 8, 2012, 7:00:16 AM2/8/12
to
[snip of a bunch of things that Jason is afraid to reply to]
because a lawyer who may be a Democrat was involved in getting Cain's
mistress to admit that she had a years long affair with him means that
it was a plot by the Democrats? Even though, considering the fact that
Cain is a complete idiot and ignoramus, would be the easiest of all the
Republican candidates for Obama to defeat?
To quote Steven Stills: "Paranoia strikes deep. Into your heart it will
creep. It starts when you're always afraid. Step out of line, the man
come and take you awa.>"
> It's a FACT that a famous democrat named Gloria Allred (a lawyer)
> represented one of the woman that Cain tried to have sex with. That woman
> and Gloria Allred appeared together in a major press conference. I saw a
> tape of that press conference on Fox News.
I responded to this in another post. Do you really think that, just
> represented one of the woman that Cain tried to have sex with. That woman
> and Gloria Allred appeared together in a major press conference. I saw a
> tape of that press conference on Fox News.
because a lawyer who may be a Democrat was involved in getting Cain's
mistress to admit that she had a years long affair with him means that
it was a plot by the Democrats? Even though, considering the fact that
Cain is a complete idiot and ignoramus, would be the easiest of all the
Republican candidates for Obama to defeat?
To quote Steven Stills: "Paranoia strikes deep. Into your heart it will
come and take you awa.>"
Mitchell Holman
Feb 8, 2012, 8:26:52 AM2/8/12
to
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-08021...@67-150-174-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Then stop blaming Democrats.
> -but a famous democrat
> lawyer named Gloria Allred got involved in the story by representing
> one of the women. The press conference was shown on most or all of the
> major television networks.
So? Lawyers don't care about the political leanings of
a client if they have a good case. Remember the Kennedy
family attorney Roy Black defending Rush Limbaugh? Remember
the ACLU defending the Operation Rescue pro-life protesters?
news:Jason-08021...@67-150-174-252.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> -but a famous democrat
> lawyer named Gloria Allred got involved in the story by representing
> one of the women. The press conference was shown on most or all of the
> major television networks.
a client if they have a good case. Remember the Kennedy
family attorney Roy Black defending Rush Limbaugh? Remember
the ACLU defending the Operation Rescue pro-life protesters?
Jason
Feb 8, 2012, 4:00:19 PM2/8/12
to
In article <dfritzin-41B6CF...@news.eternal-september.org>,
It's a fact that Gloria Allred is a liberal democrat. She has appeared on
many different Fox News shows.
many different Fox News shows.
Jason
Feb 8, 2012, 4:03:06 PM2/8/12
to
In article <Xns9FF34B8E62860...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Yes, but she did NOT have to have a major press conference that was seen
on most every major television network.
on most every major television network.
Jason
Feb 8, 2012, 4:07:57 PM2/8/12
to
In article <dfritzin-3A48F0...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Perry wanted to defeat Cain. However, I do believe that the liberal
democrats (such as Gloria Allred) also wanted him defeated.
democrats (such as Gloria Allred) also wanted him defeated.
Mitchell Holman
Feb 8, 2012, 6:02:51 PM2/8/12
to
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-08021...@67-150-174-134.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
She did the same thing when she was representing
the family of Nicole Simpson. And when she represent
Tiger Woods' mistress, and when she sued Britney Spears
and when she sued Democratic Congressman Anthony Weiner.
Care to show us the political angle to those?
news:Jason-08021...@67-150-174-134.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
the family of Nicole Simpson. And when she represent
Tiger Woods' mistress, and when she sued Britney Spears
and when she sued Democratic Congressman Anthony Weiner.
Care to show us the political angle to those?
Jason
Feb 8, 2012, 6:33:57 PM2/8/12
to
In article <Xns9FF3AD36333BE...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
No--they were not political issues in those other cases.
Mitchell Holman
Feb 8, 2012, 6:31:17 PM2/8/12
to
Then explain why she represented Ginger Lee, the
actress who sued Democratic Congressman Anthony Weiner
and ultimately forced him to resign over his affair
with her.
Does that sound like the work of a "liberal Democrat"?
David Fritzinger
Feb 8, 2012, 7:06:02 PM2/8/12
to
In article
<Jason-08021...@67-150-174-134.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Why? Cain would have been the weakest candidate the Republicans could
have had. Not only would he have lost in a landslide, he probably would
have given the Democrats the House and a filibuster-proof Senate. You
really ought to think before you make a fool of yourself here.
BTW, why didn't you answer my point about the presence of one Democrat
does not a Democratic conspiracy make?
<Jason-08021...@67-150-174-134.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
have had. Not only would he have lost in a landslide, he probably would
have given the Democrats the House and a filibuster-proof Senate. You
really ought to think before you make a fool of yourself here.
BTW, why didn't you answer my point about the presence of one Democrat
does not a Democratic conspiracy make?
Mitchell Holman
Feb 8, 2012, 7:07:23 PM2/8/12
to
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-08021...@66-53-209-57.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Representing the mistress of a Democrat is
not a political issue but representing the
mistress of a Republican is?
Come again?
news:Jason-08021...@66-53-209-57.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
not a political issue but representing the
mistress of a Republican is?
Come again?
David Fritzinger
Feb 8, 2012, 7:08:21 PM2/8/12
to
liberal Democrat does not make anything a Democratic plot against the
weakest of the Republican presidential candidates. And, what does it
matter if she appeared on Faux Noise.
Jason
Feb 9, 2012, 3:31:36 AM2/9/12
to
In article <Xns9FF3B826A350A...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Good point--Yes, the mistress of Weiner was a political related story but
I don't believe he was running for re-election.
I don't believe he was running for re-election.
Jason
Feb 9, 2012, 3:36:10 AM2/9/12
to
In article <dfritzin-E9C7FF...@news.eternal-september.org>,
I call it piling on--a football term. Perry tackled Cain and Gloria Allred
and her client piled on. Gloria Allred probably would not have agreed to
represent her if that lady had claimed that a plumber or carpenter had
sexually harrassed her. She seems to enjoy representing famous people.
and her client piled on. Gloria Allred probably would not have agreed to
represent her if that lady had claimed that a plumber or carpenter had
sexually harrassed her. She seems to enjoy representing famous people.
Jason
Feb 9, 2012, 3:42:57 AM2/9/12
to
In article <Xns9FF3B207F6CC1...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
I know that she is a liberal democrat since she has been on lots of Fox
News Shows. They usually have a liberal democrat on each panel. She may
have a contract with Fox News.
News Shows. They usually have a liberal democrat on each panel. She may
have a contract with Fox News.
Jason
Feb 9, 2012, 3:44:05 AM2/9/12
to
In article <dfritzin-33BD97...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Good point--let's move on since Cain is no longer running for president.
He's ancient history.
He's ancient history.
David Fritzinger
Feb 9, 2012, 6:39:57 AM2/9/12
to
In article
<Jason-09021...@67-150-175-145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Having been shown to be wrong (and actually admitting it), Jason wants
to run from it as fast and as far as possible.
<Jason-09021...@67-150-175-145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
to run from it as fast and as far as possible.
David Fritzinger
Feb 9, 2012, 6:42:12 AM2/9/12
to
In article
<Jason-09021...@67-150-175-145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
quitting mid-term.
Please try to do at least a little research before you spew your wrong
opinions here.
<Jason-09021...@67-150-175-145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <Xns9FF3B826A350A...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
[snip]
> In article <Xns9FF3B826A350A...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Representing the mistress of a Democrat is
> > not a political issue but representing the
> > mistress of a Republican is?
> >
> > Come again?
>
> Good point--Yes, the mistress of Weiner was a political related story but
> I don't believe he was running for re-election.
He didn't run for reelection because of the incident. He ended up
> > not a political issue but representing the
> > mistress of a Republican is?
> >
> > Come again?
>
> Good point--Yes, the mistress of Weiner was a political related story but
> I don't believe he was running for re-election.
quitting mid-term.
Please try to do at least a little research before you spew your wrong
opinions here.
David Fritzinger
Feb 9, 2012, 6:43:30 AM2/9/12
to
In article
<Jason-09021...@67-150-175-145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
So, you admit it wasn't a Democratic conspiracy to "get" Cain?
<Jason-09021...@67-150-175-145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Mitchell Holman
Feb 9, 2012, 7:57:53 AM2/9/12
to
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in news:Jason-0902120042570001@67-150-175-
145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
By that standard Sarah Palin is a liberal Democrat
since SHE in on their show a lot.
145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
since SHE in on their show a lot.
Mitchell Holman
Feb 9, 2012, 8:13:12 AM2/9/12
to
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-09021...@67-150-175-145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Bingo. She will represent people suing Republicans,
she will represent people suing Democrats, she will
represent people suing people that have nothing to do
with politics. Ergo, your claim about her being a "liberal
democrat" is just silly. She grandstands before the media
to advertise her law practice and get more clients, not
to make any political point.
Is any of this sinking in?
news:Jason-09021...@67-150-175-145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
she will represent people suing Democrats, she will
represent people suing people that have nothing to do
with politics. Ergo, your claim about her being a "liberal
democrat" is just silly. She grandstands before the media
to advertise her law practice and get more clients, not
to make any political point.
Is any of this sinking in?
Jason
Feb 9, 2012, 1:44:07 PM2/9/12
to
In article <Xns9FF446A4F87F2...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
No--she is one of several conservatives on the panels.
Jason
Feb 9, 2012, 1:49:11 PM2/9/12
to
In article <Xns9FF4493E4D688...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
You are correct. However, you missed my point. She is also a liberal
democrat. I know that is true since she has appeared on Fox News shows and
has expressed her political point of view many times--she loves to talk
while on camera.
democrat. I know that is true since she has appeared on Fox News shows and
has expressed her political point of view many times--she loves to talk
while on camera.
Jason
Feb 9, 2012, 1:50:09 PM2/9/12
to
In article <dfritzin-285961...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Perry started it and a famous democrat later piled on.
David Fritzinger
Feb 9, 2012, 2:15:22 PM2/9/12
to
In article
<Jason-09021...@67-150-175-83.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
(though you have yet to prove she is), it does not mean there was a
conspiracy to get rid of Cain masterminded by the Democrats. Besides, is
it "piling on" to provide evidence? To provide someone else that proves
someone is lying? If that is the case, there is massive "piling on" by
both the prosecution and defense teams in most trials that take place.
You see, Jason, just because the people you support will tell any lie to
get rid of their opponents, it doesn't mean that everyone is like this.
In the case of Cain, there is no evidence that there was a Democratic
conspiracy to bring him down.
<Jason-09021...@67-150-175-83.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-285961...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
> In article <dfritzin-285961...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > So, you admit it wasn't a Democratic conspiracy to "get" Cain?
>
> Perry started it and a famous democrat later piled on.
You still don't understand. Just because she may be a famous Democrat
>
> Perry started it and a famous democrat later piled on.
(though you have yet to prove she is), it does not mean there was a
conspiracy to get rid of Cain masterminded by the Democrats. Besides, is
it "piling on" to provide evidence? To provide someone else that proves
someone is lying? If that is the case, there is massive "piling on" by
both the prosecution and defense teams in most trials that take place.
You see, Jason, just because the people you support will tell any lie to
get rid of their opponents, it doesn't mean that everyone is like this.
In the case of Cain, there is no evidence that there was a Democratic
conspiracy to bring him down.
Jason
Feb 9, 2012, 2:40:54 PM2/9/12
to
In article <dfritzin-D03C8A...@news.eternal-september.org>,
liberal democrat later piled on but it was NOT a Democratic
conspiracy---just a nutcase liberal democrat lawyer that loves appearing
on television.
David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <Jason-09021...@67-150-175-83.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > In article <dfritzin-285961...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> [snip]
> > > So, you admit it wasn't a Democratic conspiracy to "get" Cain?
> >
> > Perry started it and a famous democrat later piled on.
>
> You still don't understand. Just because she may be a famous Democrat
> (though you have yet to prove she is), it does not mean there was a
> conspiracy to get rid of Cain masterminded by the Democrats. Besides, is
> it "piling on" to provide evidence? To provide someone else that proves
> someone is lying? If that is the case, there is massive "piling on" by
> both the prosecution and defense teams in most trials that take place.
>
> You see, Jason, just because the people you support will tell any lie to
> get rid of their opponents, it doesn't mean that everyone is like this.
> In the case of Cain, there is no evidence that there was a Democratic
> conspiracy to bring him down.
I agree that it was Perry's goal (not the democrats) to bring him down. A
> In article
> <Jason-09021...@67-150-175-83.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > In article <dfritzin-285961...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> [snip]
> > > So, you admit it wasn't a Democratic conspiracy to "get" Cain?
> >
> > Perry started it and a famous democrat later piled on.
>
> You still don't understand. Just because she may be a famous Democrat
> (though you have yet to prove she is), it does not mean there was a
> conspiracy to get rid of Cain masterminded by the Democrats. Besides, is
> it "piling on" to provide evidence? To provide someone else that proves
> someone is lying? If that is the case, there is massive "piling on" by
> both the prosecution and defense teams in most trials that take place.
>
> You see, Jason, just because the people you support will tell any lie to
> get rid of their opponents, it doesn't mean that everyone is like this.
> In the case of Cain, there is no evidence that there was a Democratic
> conspiracy to bring him down.
liberal democrat later piled on but it was NOT a Democratic
conspiracy---just a nutcase liberal democrat lawyer that loves appearing
on television.
David Fritzinger
Feb 9, 2012, 3:32:29 PM2/9/12
to
and I am glad that something finally sunk into your brain.
ala
Feb 11, 2012, 2:27:20 PM2/11/12
to
"Jason" <Ja...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Jason-09021...@67-150-175-83.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com...
>
> You are correct. However, you missed my point. She is also a liberal
> democrat. I know that is true since she has appeared on Fox News shows and
> has expressed her political point of view many times--she loves to talk
> while on camera.
>
>
what exactly is she supposed to do when that happens and they ask her a
question
ala
Feb 11, 2012, 2:56:09 PM2/11/12
to
news:Jason-09021...@67-150-175-145.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com...
She represented someone who was suing a famous person.
Because that is where the money is.
That's not to say she hasn't represented people who sue nonfamous people.
It's just that Cain type stories get into the press but the plumbers don't.
can't see how it differs from a male's client base
> I call it piling on--a football term. Perry tackled Cain and Gloria Allred
> and her client piled on. Gloria Allred probably would not have agreed to
> represent her if that lady had claimed that a plumber or carpenter had
> sexually harrassed her. She seems to enjoy representing famous people.
>
>
She didn't represent famous people here.
> and her client piled on. Gloria Allred probably would not have agreed to
> represent her if that lady had claimed that a plumber or carpenter had
> sexually harrassed her. She seems to enjoy representing famous people.
>
>
She represented someone who was suing a famous person.
Because that is where the money is.
That's not to say she hasn't represented people who sue nonfamous people.
It's just that Cain type stories get into the press but the plumbers don't.
can't see how it differs from a male's client base
Jason
Feb 11, 2012, 5:39:54 PM2/11/12
to
In article <Wa6dnfpdIfJpWqvS...@earthlink.com>, "ala"
I call her a television camera whore. She loves having an opportunity to
appear in front of a television camera. That is the reason she loves
having clients that are in the news.
appear in front of a television camera. That is the reason she loves
having clients that are in the news.
ala
Feb 12, 2012, 9:53:21 AM2/12/12
to
news:Jason-11021...@67-150-170-121.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com...
> I call her a television camera whore. She loves having an opportunity to
> appear in front of a television camera. That is the reason she loves
> having clients that are in the news.
>
>
if you want to be accurate, it's because those types of clients generate
money and free publicity that generates more clients ad infinitum
Herman Cain and Sarah Palin are also camera whores
> I call her a television camera whore. She loves having an opportunity to
> appear in front of a television camera. That is the reason she loves
> having clients that are in the news.
>
>
money and free publicity that generates more clients ad infinitum
Herman Cain and Sarah Palin are also camera whores
RichTravsky
Feb 12, 2012, 11:32:22 PM2/12/12
to
Jason wrote:
>
> In article <Xns9FF2D5A17D6E8...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
>
> In article <Xns9FF2D5A17D6E8...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Now you are just lying. Cain HIMSELF blamed the leaks
> > on the Rick Perry campaign. NOT any Democrats. This proof
> > has been posted here many times and you still post and
> > repost this lie that some "democrats" were behind it.
> > Why are you being so dishonest?
> >
> > on the Rick Perry campaign. NOT any Democrats. This proof
> > has been posted here many times and you still post and
> > repost this lie that some "democrats" were behind it.
> > Why are you being so dishonest?
> >
> > 11/02/2011
> > Cain Says Perry Camp Behind Sex Harassment Leak
> >
> > Was the recent attack on Herman Cain’s presidential
> > campaign a professional hit job? Absolutely, says
> > Herman Cain. And he says he knows just where to look
> > for the guy who did it: At 815 Slaters Lane in Alexandria,
> > Virginia, a low-slung former warehouse in the shadow of
> > a coal plant. There, beside rusting rail lines, is the
> > home of OnMessage Inc., a Republican-leaning consulting
> > firm recently hired to bolster Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s
> > presidential campaign.
> >
> > http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2011/11/02/herman-cain-sexual-
> > harassment-leak/
>
> I agree that Perry may have caused those leaks--but a famous democrat
> lawyer named Gloria Allred got involved in the story by representing one
> of the women. The press conference was shown on most or all of the major
> television networks.
So? It was news. Everyone carried it.
> > Cain Says Perry Camp Behind Sex Harassment Leak
> >
> > Was the recent attack on Herman Cain’s presidential
> > campaign a professional hit job? Absolutely, says
> > Herman Cain. And he says he knows just where to look
> > for the guy who did it: At 815 Slaters Lane in Alexandria,
> > Virginia, a low-slung former warehouse in the shadow of
> > a coal plant. There, beside rusting rail lines, is the
> > home of OnMessage Inc., a Republican-leaning consulting
> > firm recently hired to bolster Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s
> > presidential campaign.
> >
> > http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2011/11/02/herman-cain-sexual-
> > harassment-leak/
>
> I agree that Perry may have caused those leaks--but a famous democrat
> lawyer named Gloria Allred got involved in the story by representing one
> of the women. The press conference was shown on most or all of the major
> television networks.
RichTravsky
Feb 13, 2012, 12:02:02 AM2/13/12
to
Jason wrote:
>
> In article <Xns9FF34B8E62860...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
> In article <Xns9FF34B8E62860...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > So? Lawyers don't care about the political leanings of
> > a client if they have a good case. Remember the Kennedy
> > family attorney Roy Black defending Rush Limbaugh? Remember
> > the ACLU defending the Operation Rescue pro-life protesters?
>
> Yes, but she did NOT have to have a major press conference that was seen
> on most every major television network.
It's news. This is how its done
> > a client if they have a good case. Remember the Kennedy
> > family attorney Roy Black defending Rush Limbaugh? Remember
> > the ACLU defending the Operation Rescue pro-life protesters?
>
> Yes, but she did NOT have to have a major press conference that was seen
> on most every major television network.
0 new messages