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Lee Olsen  
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 More options Oct 18 2012, 1:32 pm
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo, sci.archaeology
From: Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:32:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 18 2012 1:32 pm
Subject: Re: National Geographic's "Becoming Human" and the molecular clock facts
On Oct 18, 7:34 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, let's. The latest pro-Neanderthal interbreeding paper uses clock-
> > based estimates in its conclusion.

> No it doesn't.

Your inability to read doesn't negate that fact.

>  You're confusing an
> attempting at placing a date on interbreeding with the fact that
> humans outside of Africa share some DNA with Neanderthals while
> the African population does not.

Duh:
http://tinyurl.com/cs2e8pg

You can't read.


 
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 More options Oct 24 2012, 4:27 am
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology, sci.anthropology.paleo
Followup-To: alt.archaeology
From: JTEM <jte...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:27:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 24 2012 4:27 am
Subject: Re: National Geographic's "Becoming Human" and the molecular clock fantasy
Way back in the late 1990s a woman
used the "Molecular Clock" fantasy
to plot the origins of modern Mammal
lineages, and had pretty much all of
today's lineages fully formed long
before the K.T. Boundary.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/280/5364/675.summary

Well, this was abject nonsense, as
just about everyone in science agreed.
The findings were pretty much universally
panned, and to this day are ignored.

Why?  Because the DNA is looking at
RIGHT NOW while the fossils are telling
us about the past.  And, those fossils show
us something completely different than
any assumptions based on the "Molecular
Clock" nonsense.

Strangely, "Science" <spit>  <spit>  deals
with this error by compounding it.

Oh, I did not mistake anything, "Science"
compounds the error.  Seeing that their
precious "Molecular Clock" myth places
things at a comically old age, "Science"
decides that this molecular clock is actually
slower than at first claimed...

Meaning, what?  All extant mammalian
lineages were now fully formed in the
Triassic?

I mean, how can this get any more ridicules?
Oh, I know, the same "Scientist" who believe
in and promote the molecular clock bullshit
can also admit that it's pure rubbish:

: For instance, the slowest proposed mutation
: rate puts the common ancestor of humans
: and orang-utans at 40 million years ago, he
: says: more than 20 million years before dates
:  derived from abundant fossil evidence. This
:  very slow clock has the common ancestor of
:  monkeys and humans co-existing with the
:  last dinosaurs. “It gets very complicated,”
: deadpans Reich.
http://www.nature.com/news/studies-slow-the-human-dna-clock-1.11431

They go on to suggest that the molecular clock
used to move faster... they go on to suggest that
the clock-like timing of genetic change isn't clock
like at all, that it changed over time.

Which brings us full circle, don't it?  Their constant
rate isn't constant, by their own reckoning.

Idiocy...


 
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 More options Oct 24 2012, 10:55 am
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo, sci.archaeology
From: Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 24 2012 10:55 am
Subject: Re: National Geographic's "Becoming Human"
On Oct 24, 1:27 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Way back

http://tinyurl.com/32ryet
"In fact, Australian Aborigines and various Native American and
African groups
 have traditionally practiced “persistence hunting,” chasing antelopes
or other
game in the midday heat, often for hours, until the animals overheat
and collapse."

http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/master.html?http://www.naturalhistor...
December 2006–January 2007
"Running Man Couch potatoes may disagree, but people are fairly well
built to run in the heat.
We sweat more per unit of body surface area than any other animal, and
our upright posture
exposes less body surface to the sun than would walking on all fours,
and more surface to the
 cooling wind. On the hunt, those traits give people a distinct
advantage over most quarry.
In fact, Australian Aborigines and various Native American and African
groups have
 traditionally practiced “persistence hunting,” chasing antelopes or
other game in the midday heat,
 often for hours, until the animals overheat and collapse.
During the past twenty years, Louis Liebenberg, an animal tracker and
the owner of CyberTracker
 Software in Cape Town, South Africa, has observed the only
persistence hunters still left, the
 !Xo and /Gwi bushmen of the central Kalahari in Botswana. He reports
a success rate as high
 as 80 percent—and a meat yield that beats hunting with bow and arrow,
club, or spear. Only
 hunting with dogs proved superior.


 
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 More options Oct 26 2012, 12:24 am
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo, sci.archaeology
From: JTEM <jte...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 12:24 am
Subject: Re: National Geographic's "Becoming Human"
Sick fuck, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "In fact, Australian Aborigines and various Native American and
> African groups
>  have traditionally practiced “persistence hunting,” chasing antelopes
> or other
> game in the midday heat, often for hours, until the animals overheat
> and collapse."

In fact, I keep pointing out that ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE
MODERN HUMANS!

You've got it all BACKWARDS, shit for brains!

You're looking at THE END, how we TURNED OUT and you're
pretending that this is how we got this way... the way we
are today is how we got the way we are today...

In order for persistence hunting to have caused our evolution
into modern humans WE HAD TO ALREADY BE PERSISTENCE
HUNTING!

Get it?  Even just a little?  It's So.  Freaking.  Obvious. and I've
pointed it out to you SO.  Many.  Times.  but your mental illness
just won't let you acknowledge it!

Damn, you're fucked up....


 
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 More options Oct 26 2012, 12:49 am
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo, sci.archaeology
From: Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:49:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 12:49 am
Subject: Re: National Geographic's "Becoming Human"
On Oct 25, 9:24 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sick fuck

 "JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
 Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
 Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
Seth Dwight: NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.232.83.153
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JTEM: "As many of you may already be aware, I am an
accomplished medium who has often channeled
none other than Nostradamus himself."

Here are some facts:
http://tinyurl.com/32ryet
"In fact, Australian Aborigines and various Native American and
African groups
 have traditionally practiced “persistence hunting,” chasing antelopes
or other
game in the midday heat, often for hours, until the animals overheat
and collapse."

http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/master.html?http://www.naturalhistor...
December 2006–January 2007
"Running Man Couch potatoes may disagree, but people are fairly well
built to run in the heat.
We sweat more per unit of body surface area than any other animal, and
our upright posture
exposes less body surface to the sun than would walking on all fours,
and more surface to the
 cooling wind. On the hunt, those traits give people a distinct
advantage over most quarry.
In fact, Australian Aborigines and various Native American and African
groups have
 traditionally practiced “persistence hunting,” chasing antelopes or
other game in the midday heat,
 often for hours, until the animals overheat and collapse.
During the past twenty years, Louis Liebenberg, an animal tracker and
the owner of CyberTracker
 Software in Cape Town, South Africa, has observed the only
persistence hunters still left, the
 !Xo and /Gwi bushmen of the central Kalahari in Botswana. He reports
a success rate as high
 as 80 percent—and a meat yield that beats hunting with bow and arrow,
club, or spear. Only
 hunting with dogs proved superior.


 
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 More options Oct 26 2012, 6:54 am
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo, sci.archaeology
Followup-To: alt.idiots
From: JTEM <jte...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 03:54:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 6:54 am
Subject: Re: National Geographic's "Becoming Human" and the molecular clock fantasy
Sick fuck, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "In fact, Australian Aborigines and various Native American and
> African groups
>  have traditionally practiced “persistence hunting,” chasing antelopes
> or other
> game in the midday heat, often for hours, until the animals overheat
> and collapse."

In fact, I keep pointing out that ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE
MODERN HUMANS!

You've got it all BACKWARDS, shit for brains!

You're looking at THE END, how we TURNED OUT and you're
pretending that this is how we got this way... the way we
are today is how we got the way we are today...

In order for persistence hunting to have caused our evolution
into modern humans WE HAD TO ALREADY BE PERSISTENCE
HUNTING!

Get it?  Even just a little?  It's So.  Freaking.  Obvious. and I've
pointed it out to you SO.  Many.  Times.  but your mental illness
just won't let you acknowledge it!

Damn, you're fucked up....


 
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 More options Oct 26 2012, 8:18 pm
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo, sci.archaeology
From: Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:18:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: National Geographic's "Becoming Human" and the molecular clock facts
On Oct 18, 7:34 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, let's. The latest pro-Neanderthal interbreeding paper uses clock-
> > based estimates in its conclusion.

> No it doesn't.

Yes it does.

 
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 More options Oct 26 2012, 8:22 pm
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo, sci.archaeology
From: Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:22:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 8:22 pm
Subject: Re: National Geographic's "Becoming Human" and the molecular clock facts
On Oct 26, 3:54 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sick fuck

 "JTEM" <j_deerfi...@hotmail.com>
 Jack Teehan <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
 Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>
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> Damn, you're fucked up....

From: Seth Dwight <deerfieldproducti...@gmail.com>

>I need only crank the organ and the monkey will dance!

Mar 24, 5:23 pm

Lee Olsen wrote:
> > Cranking your organ is the only job you ever had.

JTEM replies with this classic:
On Mar 25, 5:03 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are you a sick fuck because you sexualize everything
> I say, or do you sexualize everything I say because
> you're a sick fuck?

"I"? You are so stupid you forgot which pseud you were using.

 
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