This raises the wider issue of how and where people can collaborate on
developing new schema, in order to avoid redundant work and
conflicting results.
It's great that you've asked for discussion, rather than steaming
ahead on your own, but a more formal system might be useful (and be
preferable to the dictat from Google/BIng/Yahoo that we've had so far)
> Properties for RealEstate:
Add a property for "Realtor" ("Estate agent in British English"),
using "Organization" (or "Person" where applicable).
On 7 June 2011 03:54, skygod <skygo...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Regarding your suggestion for the class properties, based on my own
> requirements, I would propose the following
> offer - Text ( Sale / Rent / Lease )
Make that:
offer - Text ( Sale / Rent / Lease/ Swap )
as UK public housing tenants can arrange mutual exchanges of rented property.
Also, for rented properties, add a "Deposit" value and currency-type
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I see why JVM switched from Java to javaScript: subORG.
K&R C format would consider that one complilation than one subClass of
su-borg.
Consider the weight attribute for items.
On 07/12/2011 02:11 PM, Guha wrote:
> Isn't a Real Estate Listing a subClass of Offer?
>
> guha
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:13 AM, skygod <skygo...@hotmail.co.uk
> <mailto:skygo...@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> I fully agree that /Place or possibly /Product would be the natural
> top level for Real Estate, but by using /Place, it's then not possible
> to implement either /Offer or /Product as these are not child
> elements. The only top level that I've found that allows /Product
> and /
> Place is by using /CreativeWork as the parent 'holder'.
>
> I know that a generic property is NOT a /CreativeWork, but how is it
> possible to implement location data, business data and product / offer
> data using any other markup?
>
> I just feel that we are on the cusp of getting something really good
> here and the impetus is not there :-(
>
> I've looked at hundreds of Real estate sites and by and large there
> are only a few standards that would need to be applied which I've
> previously attempted to provide input on, but it is up to
> schema.org <http://schema.org>
> to assist us. The current framework just doesn't work in a meaningful
> way.
>
> Please, �Google / Bing & Yahoo help us out here. Real Estate is a
> popular search query and getting data portrayed in a consistent manner
> will certainly help searchers if the major search engines can
> understand what is being Offered in what Place and by who
> (LocalBusiness).
>
> I have agreement from one of the sites that I support to make the
> transition to html5 (experimental) for their detailed listings page if
> I can guarantee that the semantic markup is correct.
>
> Without having live sites adopt schema.org <http://schema.org>
> markup correctly, where is
> this initiative going?
>
> George
>
>
> On Jul 7, 10:08�am, Jesse F <cobbsfried...@gmail.com
> <mailto:cobbsfried...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Would it not be better to use /Place as the top level as opposed
> to /
> > CreativeWork? The engines will be looking at this for organizational
> > structure and I dont see them looking for real estate in creative
> > work. I would think it would be better to add extensions to the
> /Place
> > properties such as beds, baths, price - right?
> >
> > On Jun 16, 5:12�am, Bryo srl <b...@bryo.it
> <mailto:b...@bryo.it>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ciao skygod, finally I had time to look into your suggestions and
> > > progresses, good job!
> >
> > > I agree with you, CreativeWork is the only class that offer
> both ahttp://schema.org/Offerandahttp://schema.org/Placeproperties
> <http://schema.org/Offerandahttp://schema.org/Placeproperties>
> > > ("offers" and "contentLocation" in this case). So using it
> instead of
> > > extending a more basic class could help serach engine
> understand at
> > > least some of the data. My doubt is: CreativeWork ?? :(
> Unfortuantely
> > > it sounds a bit strange to insert arealestateproperty in
> > > CreativeWork, for sure a building is not a CreativeWork. What
> do you
> > > think? Is this important? I mean, it is important to markup
> objects
> > > (the buidling in our case) with the correct "class meaning"?
> >
> > > Second point: I saw that you have inserted "offers" as a new
> property
> > > of �http://schema.org/Offer(youritem
> <http://schema.org/Offer%28youritem> 1). Can we do something like
> > > that? Is this a correct way to extend a property/class?
> Readinghttp://schema.org/docs/extension.htmlIread
> <http://schema.org/docs/extension.htmlIread> something different but
> > > maybe I'm wrong. I understood that you could extend a class or a
> > > property but not insert a new property on an existing class.
> >
> > > Third and last comment: I would like to
> usehttp://schema.org/RealEstateAgent
> <http://schema.org/RealEstateAgent>
> > > for Type of Item 3 instead of the more
> generichttp://schema.org/organization <http://schema.org/organization>
> > > but, again, I do not know if this can be done. Can we
> usehttp://schema.org/RealEstateAgent(thatis
> <http://schema.org/RealEstateAgent%28thatis> a subclass
> ofhttp://schema.org/Organization <http://schema.org/Organization>)
> as value for a property that ask
> forhttp://schema.org/Organization?Can
> <http://schema.org/Organization?Can> subclasses be used instead of the
> > > class?
> >
> > > Maybe we should open a new thread about this last two points.
> >
> > > On Jun 9, 7:05�am, skygod <skygod12...@hotmail.co.uk
> <mailto:skygod12...@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > > > I guess that until we can use arealtesting / validation tool
> it's
> > > > going to be a bit hit and miss to start with. I was playing
> around
> > > > with the markup yesterday and created a simple layout using
> > > > CreativeWork as the base Class and defining a RealEstate
> extension
> > > > under Offer.
> >
> > > > The Rich Snippet testing tool shows the following
> forhttp://skygod-webservices.co.cc/schema_test.phpshowsthefollowing <http://skygod-webservices.co.cc/schema_test.phpshowsthefollowing>
> > > > email = someone@acme_realty.com <mailto:someone@acme_realty.com>
> >
> > > > Item 4
> > > > Type:http://schema.org/place
> > > > geo = Item( 5 )
> >
> > > > Item 5
> > > > Type:http://schema.org/geocordinates
> > > > latitude = 17.208004
> > > > longitude = 101.857703
>
>
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