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Just to prove nothing is easy, this job matches all the requirements '100%
Scala' only minimal, or no, Java and not a mention of Clojure but I'm
guessing not that interesting to anyone on the list.

http://www.scala-london.co.uk/scala/barstaff.php

If anybody on the group does get the job, please let us all know :-)

Andy


On 23 August 2012 01:47, Richard Gomes <rgomes1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Andy,
>
> Yes. Makes sense.
> I think I'm being too restrictive.
>
> Thanks
>
> -- Richard Gomes
>
>
>
>
> On 23/08/12 00:04, Andy Hicks wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard
>>
>> When we get bombarded with 100's of ads a day then we can start and look
>> to be more fussy but until then I don't see the problem of being more
>> relaxed about whats posted. It's up to you what setting you set the
>> group email notification so that is not a problem.
>>
>> As for 'Scala explicitly' then I personally would not trust a job
>> description what said '100% Scala', so no Bash scripts?, is sql or
>> javascript allowed?, how about java?
>>
>> I still think that providing that the successful person get to do coding
>> in Scala, some of the time, then that is good. If they are looking for a
>> c# dev then they are in the wrong place, the rest is all a grey area.
>>
>> And looking through the google group it's not going to take more than 2
>> seconds to eliminate the ones that you are not interested in.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 August 2012 23:16, Richard Gomes <rgomes1...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:rgomes1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> I think that ads should focus on Scala, explicitly.
>> If recruiters are willing to aim a certain audience, they should do
>> their homework and target ads to that audience in particular. I bet
>> that, when a couple of recruiters become to be more successful than
>> others, others will start to copy. For the benefit of the community,
>> I believe that targeted ads are far better than random noise.
>>
>>
>>
>> >> - 'interested in c#, f#, java, scala, clojure, ruby, forth' -
>> Not so happy
>>
>> I would change "not so happy" to "delete with explanation of rules".
>>
>>
>> -- Richard Gomes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/08/12 16:51, Peter Pilgrim wrote:
>>
>> On 22 August 2012 12:08, Andy Hicks <a...@hicks.net
>> <mailto:a...@hicks.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> So you don't have to read the rest, its:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/__**forum/london-scala-jobs<https://groups.google.com/d/__forum/london-scala-jobs>
>>
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/**forum/london-scala-jobs<https://groups.google.com/d/forum/london-scala-jobs>
>> >
>>
>> We are slowly getting people wanting to post job ads to the
>> group and there
>> tends to be a tendency to not to have them with normal
>> events and chatter.
>> What I've done is created a London Scala Job Board (ok, more
>> commonly known
>> as a Google Group) and will start directing anybody who want
>> to post jobs to
>> that group.
>>
>> Anybody can post, recruiters are welcome and I'll only check
>> first post.
>> Basic rules will be:
>> - 'Looking for Scala Dev' - I'm very happy
>> - 'willing to learn scala' - also happy
>> - 'interested in c#, f#, java, scala, clojure, ruby, forth'
>> - Not so happy
>> - 'Looking for a c# programmer' - you're looking in the
>> wrong place, delete.
>> - filling to group with every ad in you database' -- Removed
>> from the list,
>> easy.
>>
>> If you're looking for work then same applies.
>>
>> Again, no matter what you think of recruiters (some are nice
>> :-) I think
>> they are part of the scala ecosystem and so should be
>> allowed to post as
>> well.
>>
>> So if you are looking for a Scala role or want to advertise
>> the join:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/__**forum/london-scala-jobs<https://groups.google.com/d/__forum/london-scala-jobs>
>>
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/**forum/london-scala-jobs<https://groups.google.com/d/forum/london-scala-jobs>
>> >
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> Hi Andy
>>
>> I think that is a great idea and I like your idea of having some
>> rules
>> about the job postings
>> What about postings that mention a mixture of Scala and Java?
>>
>> I am sure people here (Some(People) are interested in genuine Scala
>> opportunities, not the kind tricks of English wording "Experience of
>> Lisp, Haskell, Scala, Groovy, Clojure and Oberon is desirable,
>> but not
>> essential"
>>
>>
>> --
>> Richard Gomes
>> mobile : +44(77)9955-6813 <tel:%2B44%2877%299955-6813>
>> email : rgomes1...@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:rgomes1...@yahoo.co.uk**>
>>
>> twitter: frgomes
>> YM : rgomes1997
>> gtalk : rgomes1997
>> ------------------------------**__----------------------------**
>> --__-------
>>
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Richard Gomes
> mobile : +44(77)9955-6813
> email : rgomes1...@yahoo.co.uk
> twitter: frgomes
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> gtalk : rgomes1997
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<div><br></div><div>Just to prove nothing is easy, this job matches all the requirements &#39;100% Scala&#39; only minimal, or no, Java and not a mention of Clojure but I&#39;m guessing not that interesting to anyone on the list.</div>
<div><br></div><a href="http://www.scala-london.co.uk/scala/barstaff.php">http://www.scala-london.co.uk/scala/barstaff.php</a><div><br></div><div>If anybody on the group does get the job, please let us all know :-)</div><div>
<br></div><div>Andy</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 August 2012 01:47, Richard Gomes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rgomes1...@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgomes1...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Andy,<br>
<br>
Yes. Makes sense.<br>
I think I&#39;m being too restrictive.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
-- Richard Gomes<div class="im"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 23/08/12 00:04, Andy Hicks wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">
Hi Richard<br>
<br>
When we get bombarded with 100&#39;s of ads a day then we can start and look<br>
to be more fussy but until then I don&#39;t see the problem of being more<br>
relaxed about whats posted. It&#39;s up to you what setting you set the<br>
group email notification so that is not a problem.<br>
<br>
As for &#39;Scala explicitly&#39; then I personally would not trust a job<br>
description what said &#39;100% Scala&#39;, so no Bash scripts?, is sql or<br>
javascript allowed?, how about java?<br>
<br>
I still think that providing that the successful person get to do coding<br>
in Scala, some of the time, then that is good. If they are looking for a<br>
c# dev then they are in the wrong place, the rest is all a grey area.<br>
<br>
And looking through the google group it&#39;s not going to take more than 2<br>
seconds to eliminate the ones that you are not interested in.<br>
<br>
Andy<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 22 August 2012 23:16, Richard Gomes &lt;<a href="mailto:rgomes1...@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgomes1...@gmail.com</a><br></div><div class="im">
&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:rgomes1...@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgomes1...@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
    +1<br>
<br>
    I think that ads should focus on Scala, explicitly.<br>
    If recruiters are willing to aim a certain audience, they should do<br>
    their homework and target ads to that audience in particular. I bet<br>
    that, when a couple of recruiters become to be more successful than<br>
    others, others will start to copy. For the benefit of the community,<br>
    I believe that targeted ads are far better than random noise.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
     &gt;&gt; - &#39;interested in c#, f#, java, scala, clojure, ruby, forth&#39; -<br>
    Not so happy<br>
<br>
    I would change &quot;not so happy&quot; to &quot;delete with explanation of rules&quot;.<br>
<br>
<br>
    -- Richard Gomes<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
    On 22/08/12 16:51, Peter Pilgrim wrote:<br>
<br>
        On 22 August 2012 12:08, Andy Hicks &lt;<a href="mailto:a...@hicks.net" target="_blank">a...@hicks.net</a><br></div><div class="im">
        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:a...@hicks.net" target="_blank">a...@hicks.net</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
            Hi All<br>
<br>
            So you don&#39;t have to read the rest, its:<br></div>
            <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/__forum/london-scala-jobs" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/__<u></u>forum/london-scala-jobs</a><div><div class="h5"><br>
            &lt;<a href="https://groups.google.com/d/forum/london-scala-jobs" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/<u></u>forum/london-scala-jobs</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
            We are slowly getting people wanting to post job ads to the<br>
            group and there<br>
            tends to be a tendency to not to have them with normal<br>
            events and chatter.<br>
            What I&#39;ve done is created a London Scala Job Board (ok, more<br>
            commonly known<br>
            as a Google Group) and will start directing anybody who want<br>
            to post jobs to<br>
            that group.<br>
<br>
            Anybody can post, recruiters are welcome and I&#39;ll only check<br>
            first post.<br>
            Basic rules will be:<br>
            - &#39;Looking for Scala Dev&#39; - I&#39;m very happy<br>
            - &#39;willing to learn scala&#39; - also happy<br>
            - &#39;interested in c#, f#, java, scala, clojure, ruby, forth&#39;<br>
            - Not so happy<br>
            - &#39;Looking for a c# programmer&#39; - you&#39;re looking in the<br>
            wrong place, delete.<br>
            - filling to group with every ad in you database&#39; -- Removed<br>
            from the list,<br>
            easy.<br>
<br>
            If you&#39;re looking for work then same applies.<br>
<br>
            Again, no matter what you think of recruiters (some are nice<br>
            :-) I think<br>
            they are part of the scala ecosystem and so should be<br>
            allowed to post as<br>
            well.<br>
<br>
            So if you are looking for a Scala role or want to advertise<br>
            the join:<br></div></div>
            <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/__forum/london-scala-jobs" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/__<u></u>forum/london-scala-jobs</a><div class="im"><br>
            &lt;<a href="https://groups.google.com/d/forum/london-scala-jobs" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/<u></u>forum/london-scala-jobs</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
            Andy<br>
<br>
<br>
        Hi Andy<br>
<br>
        I think that is a great idea and I like your idea of having some<br>
        rules<br>
        about the job postings<br>
        What about postings that mention a mixture of Scala and Java?<br>
<br>
        I am sure people here (Some(People) are interested in genuine Scala<br>
        opportunities, not the kind tricks of English wording &quot;Experience of<br>
        Lisp, Haskell, Scala, Groovy, Clojure and Oberon is desirable,<br>
        but not<br>
        essential&quot;<br>
<br>
<br>
    --<br>
    Richard Gomes<br></div>
    mobile : <a href="tel:%2B44%2877%299955-6813" value="+447799556813" target="_blank">+44(77)9955-6813</a> &lt;tel:%2B44%2877%299955-6813&gt;<br>
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<br>
-- <br>
Richard Gomes<br>
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