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From: Reginald Stadlbauer <reg...@froglogic.com>
Date: Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [scala-ide-dev] Re: Automated testing for the

Scala-eclipse-IDE by Squish
To: Miles Sabin <mi...@milessabin.com>
Cc: scala-ide-dev@googlegroups.com

Hello everybody,

On 03.05.10 22:51, Miles Sabin wrote:

> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Matt Russell
> <mattrussel...@googlemail.com>  wrote:

>> I very much support the idea of automated GUI testing for the Scala
>> IDE, thanks for taking the initiative on this!

>> My only concern would be, as an open source project, how readily can
>> contributors get access to these testing tools? For example, if
>> someone contributes a bug fix or new feature, it would be good if they
>> created tests for it, and to be able to run the other tests locally to
>> reduce the risk of having broken something. Is Froglogic willing to
>> make Squish licenses available to any contributor to the project?

[...]

> It'd be good if Reginald would make a comment on what his approach to
> allocating license is likely to be ...

Not sure if 'm allowed to post to scala-ide-dev but let's try :-)

Before answering the question, I'd like to mention that I myself, the
other founder for froglogic (Harri) as well as several of our
engineers come from an open source background (KDE developers of the
early days) and several are still active KDE conributors.

So we very well understand how open source projects work and are very
supportive of open source software.

That said, I can also understand the concerns of using a commercial
tool in an open source project. But as Miles stated, GUI test
automation is not a core part of the project and can be seen as
optional. It is similar to when KDE got free licenses of Purify and
Insure to do memory debugging on platforms where there was no
valgrind, or Coverity to do code checks.

To answer the question regarding additional, free licenses: We can
certainly give out more licenses to contributors as need arises. But
we need to ensure that this is really used for the Scala IDE project
by maybe having someone from the Scala IDE core team confirming us
that the requester is a contributor.

If demand would rise a lot we could create an edition of Squish Java,
similar to Squish/KDE, which works only for the Scala IDE and can the
be distributed more easily. But I guess time will tell...

Best Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Reginald Stadlbauer

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