Re: [विश्व-दर्शन:140] Muslims are the real occupiers in the middle-east

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Sadanand Patwardhan

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Jul 8, 2011, 10:59:02 PM7/8/11
to ahmed....@gmail.com, Misagh, ali reza, Mohd Azmi Abdul hamid, Irman Abdurahman, muzsta, Ajit Sahi, Muthu krishnan, Bishruddeen, mohammed shehabi, Hameed Naser, Ali Jassim, a543, huwaida arraf, PYM General Coordinator, mksa...@gmail.com, Ismail Patel, kevin....@gmail.com, oru...@yahoo.com, Nalan Dal, ofy182, Gulden SONMEZ, alaa...@gmail.com, hanin....@gmail.com, ibrahi...@yahoo.com, Bashir Zmaili, vishwa-...@googlegroups.com, Satark Chintan, Satark Chintan
Displacements have always occurred throughout history everywhere. European settlers & colonialists massacred & displaced thriving Native American communities through out America not just US. Africans were displaced by taking them as live cargo on slave ships to America because native Indians were fiercely independent. Barely quarter of that live cargo survived the slave ships of the European marauders.
 
What one questions is privations, starvations, humiliations, deaths visited upon people around the world including Palestinians in the name of democracy, justice, liberty, and so on. I do not know of any Nation State who has not committed this crime or doesn’t continue to do so. But, by far the biggest perpetrator in chief of this hypocrisy and wanton destruction is United States & Israel. Not Hitler’s Germany, because Nazi state lost its claim to infamy on this count as it was untouched by hypocrisy.
 
If Israel and USA were to declare that we do what we do because we want to do it, period, then at least I can live with that. Let them say that what they do has nothing to do with equality, justice, fairness; but to simply do with their desire to take whatever others have whenever they want; then all this *debate* would vanish in one second.
 
Might is always right. Hypocrisy is what is galling.
 
Sadanand.
I wonder what Sadanand has to say about this bogus claim by his friend, Feroze, that the Jews who were the original inhabitants of the area are now being described as the "occupiers" by the actual occupiers, the Muslims.
 
There were no "Palestinian people" until fairly recently, and no Muslims or Christians either when Jews inhabited the area originally - until displaced by Muslim invaders.

--- On Fri, 7/8/11, Feroze Mithiborwala <feroze....@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Feroze Mithiborwala <feroze....@gmail.com>
Subject: [विश्व-दर्शन:134] Re: G. M. J. - BEIRUT MEETING CONFIRMED FOR 26-27TH JULY, 2011
To: ahmed....@gmail.com, "Misagh" <in...@misagh.net>, "ali reza" <alire...@yahoo.com>, "Mohd Azmi Abdul hamid" <azm...@yahoo.com>, "Irman Abdurahman" <irman_a...@voiceofpalestine.net>, "muzsta" <muz...@yahoo.com>, "Ajit Sahi" <ajit...@gmail.com>, "Muthu krishnan" <muthu...@gmail.com>, "Bishruddeen" <sendb...@gmail.com>, "mohammed shehabi" <sen...@hotmail.com>, "Hameed Naser" <abualaa...@gmail.com>, "Ali Jassim" <al...@hotmail.com>, "a543" <a5...@hotmail.com>, "huwaida arraf" <huwaid...@gmail.com>, "PYM General Coordinator" <p...@pal-youth.org>, mksa...@gmail.com, "Ismail Patel" <i...@aqsa.org.uk>, kevin....@gmail.com, oru...@yahoo.com, "Nalan Dal" <nala...@ihh.org.tr>, "ofy182" <ofy...@yahoo.com>, "Gulden SONMEZ" <gulden...@ihh.org.tr>, alaa...@gmail.com, hanin....@gmail.com, ibrahi...@yahoo.com, "Bashir Zmaili" <bashir...@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 1:20 AM

:-POLITICAL HUMOUR-:

QUESTION:- WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE & THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA??

ANSWER:- THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEIR COUNTRY IS OCCUPIED BY ZIONIST ISRAEL.

On 2 July 2011 23:08, Feroze Mithiborwala <feroze....@gmail.com> wrote:






DEAR ALL,

GREETINGS!! SALAAM & NAMASTE!!

GLOBAL MARCH TO JERUSALEM

WE DO WISH TO INFORM ALL OF YOU THAT THE PREPARATORY MEETING WILL BE HELD IN BEIRUT ON THE 26-27TH OF JULY 2011.

THE DATES HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED IN CONSULTATION WITH MR. MAAN BASHOUR, MR. U. HAMDAN, DR ALI FAYYAD, PROF MOHSEN SALEH & BROTHER NABIL HALLAK IN BEIRUT.

1) LOGISTICS & ARRANGEMENTS:

BOARDING & LODGING WILL BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY & SALIM GHAFOURI & MYSELF ARE COORDINATING THE SAME WITH NABIL HALLAK & PROF. MOHSEN SALAH.

2) ALL THE DELEGATES ARE REQUESTED TO RE-CONFIRM THEIR PARTICIPATION TO NABIL HALLAK (+9613963368 / EMAIL: nabil....@gmail.com> ) & MYSELF (+91-9820897517 / EMAIL: feroze....@gmail.com).

3) THE MEETING WILL BE HELD OVER A PERIOD OF TWO DAYS FROM 9.30am to 7.00pm.

4) ARRIVAL & DEPARTURE: ALL THE DELEGATES ARE REQUESTED TO ARRIVE ON THE 25TH EVENING OR THE 26TH MORNING.

WE WILL DEPART BY THE EVENING OF THE 27TH & IN CASE ITS A MATTER OF A FLIGHT MATTER, THEN THE DELEGATE WILL BE PROVIDED ACCOMADATION TILL THE NEXT MORNING.

THUS WE REQUIRE TO HAVE THE FLIGHT DETAILS.

5) THE ADDRESS & DETAILS OF THE HOTEL & THE CONFERENCE ROOM WILL BE SOON PROVIDED.

6) THOSE WHO REQUIRE VISAS FOR LEBANON WILL BE ASSISTED BY OUR LOCAL ORGANIZERS.

A) AN INVIATION LETTER FOR THE VISA WILL BE SENT FROM BEIRUT. YOU CAN THEN APPLY FOR THE VISA FROM YOUR COUNTRY.

B) FOR THOSE (EXAMPLE - INDIA) WHO REQUIRE THE VISA FROM BEIRUT, THE OFFICIAL CHARGE IS $100/-, WHICH YOU WILL HAVE TO BEAR & RETURN TO OUR LEBANESE HOSTS.

ALSO OUR PALESTINIANS FRIENDS FROM WITHIN OCCUPIED PALESTINE, REQUIRE TO APPLY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AS IT DOES TAKE TIME TO ISSUE VISAS FOR THEM.

C) THUS DO EMAIL A SCANNED COPY OF YOUR PASSPORT TO NABIL HALLAK - FOR THE VISA FROM BEIRUT.

7) THE AGENDA IS KNOWN TO ALL & THE BASIC PREMISE IS TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSAL FOR THE G M J & TO FORGE A COMMON UNDERSTANDING, DRAW THE STRATEGIES & IMPLEMENT THE SAME.

8) DELEGATES FROM: INDONESIA, MALAYSIA, INDIA, PAKISTAN, IRAN, TURKEY, SYRIA, PALESTINE, LEBANON, JORDAN, EGYPT, ALGERIA, SOUTH AFRICA, USA, UK & FRANCE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DIALOGUE & CONSULTATION IN THIS REGARD.

9) WE WILL BE FORMING AN INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE FOR THE GLOBAL MARCH TO JERUSALEM, ASSIGN RESPONSIBILITIES & TASKS & THEN PROCEED TO INCLUDE THE OTHER KEY PEOPLE & ORGANIZATIONS IN THE NEXT PHASE.

WARM REGARDS
IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE GLOBAL INTIFADA!!
"THIS YEAR IN JERUSALEM"
"ONE DAY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE WORLD WILL MARCH TO JERUSALEM"


FEROZE MITHIBORWALA
ASIAN PEOPLE'S SOLIDARITY FOR PALESTINE - ASIAN COORDINATION COMMITTEE
THE PALESTINE FOUNDATION (INDIA) - NATIONAL PRESIDENT






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