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Den Koawl  
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 More options Nov 10 2012, 8:24 pm
From: Den Koawl <dko...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:24:16 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 10 2012 8:24 pm
Subject: SDR IQ

Greetings All,

Is anyone using using the RFSPACE SDR IQ for rcvr ?  Im wondering how well
it is working out ?

Tnx
Den


 
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Marcus D. Leech  
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 More options Nov 10 2012, 8:29 pm
From: "Marcus D. Leech" <patchvonbr...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:29:53 -0500
Local: Sat, Nov 10 2012 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: [SARA] SDR IQ
On 11/10/2012 08:24 PM, Den Koawl wrote:
> Greetings All,
> Is anyone using using the RFSPACE SDR IQ for rcvr ?  Im wondering how
> well it is working out ?
> Tnx
> Den

Nice device, but only designed for direct-tuning to 30Mhz, and only
190kHz of instantaneous bandwidth.

I'm not immediately aware of anyone using it for radio astronomy, but
that doesn't mean it couldn't, subject to
   the above limitations.

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Principal Investigator
Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
http://www.sbrac.org


 
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Den Koawl  
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 More options Nov 11 2012, 3:04 am
From: Den Koawl <dko...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:04:53 -0900
Local: Sun, Nov 11 2012 3:04 am
Subject: Re: [SARA] SDR IQ

Tnx for reply Marcus...... ok, was wondering about that..... i also checked
out the Icom 1500 SDR unit and Icom says that a very broad range of
spectrum can be scanned in about a second by setting the upper and lower
band limits. This unit covers up to 3 GHz also.

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Marcus D. Leech <patchvonbr...@gmail.com>wrote:


 
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Marcus D. Leech  
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 More options Nov 11 2012, 10:12 am
From: "Marcus D. Leech" <patchvonbr...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:12:38 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 11 2012 10:12 am
Subject: Re: [SARA] SDR IQ

On 11/11/2012 03:04 AM, Den Koawl wrote:

> Tnx for reply Marcus...... ok, was wondering about that..... i also
> checked out the Icom 1500 SDR unit and Icom says that a very broad
> range of spectrum can be scanned in about a second by setting the
> upper and lower band limits. This unit covers up to 3 GHz also.

For spectral observations, you'd really prefer something that can cover
the entire spectrum simultaneously -- this gives much better
   sensitivity, which is why, for spectral observations,  you want an
SDR with high instantaneous bandwidth.

Further, for continuum observations, you want more bandwidth as well,
since sensitivity is proportional to bandwidth, and for an SDR
   receiver the bandwidth is directly equal to the SPS delivered to the
software.

--
Marcus Leech
Principal Investigator
Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
http://www.sbrac.org

 
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David L, N5OIQ  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 10:44 am
From: "David L, N5OIQ" <dmlon...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 07:44:16 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 10:44 am
Subject: Re: SDR IQ

Ken,

I'm using a QS1R SDR for my work, which has an instantaneous bandwidth of
2.5 MHz that is important for radio astronomy (as mentioned by Marcus
below).  Additional hardware is needed to receive beyond 62 MHz and my
approach toward doing this is described in detail on my website
(https://sites.google.com/site/amateurradiointerferometry/file-cabinet).  

David


 
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Den Koawl  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 11:01 pm
From: Den Koawl <dko...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:01:08 -0900
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 11:01 pm
Subject: Re: [SARA] Re: SDR IQ

David Hi, and tnx for info...... i did take a look at the QS1R, but the
price is a little high for me, at the moment. For the price, that thing
should cover more spectrum ( i think ), so for now i have to settle for
using the Realtech USB SDR device and the associated software for it. I may
end up getting that QS1R someday or the RASDR when it is available.

Tnx for info.
73
Den


 
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David L, N5OIQ  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 9:29 am
From: "David L, N5OIQ" <dmlon...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:29:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [SARA] Re: SDR IQ

Den,

I've got a RTLSDR dongle myself and they are good little radios with a
large instantaneous bandwidth.  It has been a while since I've played
around with my RTLSDR and I could see that it has some issues with
automatic gain control that couldn't be disabled.  Perhaps someone here in
the group would know if AGC can be disabled on these things?

David


 
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Marcus D. Leech  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 5:09 pm
From: "Marcus D. Leech" <patchvonbr...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:09:36 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: [SARA] Re: SDR IQ
On 11/13/2012 09:29 AM, David L, N5OIQ wrote:
> Den,

> I've got a RTLSDR dongle myself and they are good little radios with a
> large instantaneous bandwidth.  It has been a while since I've played
> around with my RTLSDR and I could see that it has some issues with
> automatic gain control that couldn't be disabled.  Perhaps someone
> here in the group would know if AGC can be disabled on these things?

> David

One has been able to disable AGC, via software, on the RTLSDR for
several months.  I poked and prodded pretty hard to get them to
   figure out how to do that, and then implement it.

Both the E4K and R820T - based dongles can have fully-manual gain
control.  The FC0013/FC0012/FC2580-based dongles don't have
   manual gain control.  But most of them out there are E4K (rarer now)
and R820T (very common).

I'm using an RTL based dongle for my back-yard 400Mhz RT, and also the
SBRAC site will be using 14 of them to process data from the
   feed.

--
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Principal Investigator
Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
http://www.sbrac.org


 
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Den Koawl  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 11:37 pm
From: Den Koawl <dko...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:37:27 -0900
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 11:37 pm
Subject: Re: [SARA] Re: SDR IQ

I see, well im not sure what software you are using with it, but i
downloaded the SDRSharp pkg, and it has a tick box which disables
AGC........ i cant remember the website now that i downloaded from but i
can look for it again if this helps ?


 
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David Ocame  
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 7:22 am
From: David Ocame <doc...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:21:59 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 7:21 am
Subject: Re: [SARA] Re: SDR IQ

Den, I found that "AGC control" in these off the shelf products is sometimes very deceptive. They say AGC on/off, but what they mean is AGC fast/slow. Icom receivers are the worst offenders for this. It took 2 years and dozens of emails before a tech at Icom finally admitted this to me!
 
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Den Koawl  
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 6:42 pm
From: Den Koawl <dko...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:41:58 -0900
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 6:41 pm
Subject: Re: [SARA] Re: SDR IQ

i see, thats interesting.


 
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