Grammar doubt
Rajagopalan Ayilam
I have a doubt in Grammar.
I read a Sanskrit translation of an english sentence as follows:
ये तावत् विधिरूपमुपदिशन्ति ते नूनम् स्वार्थ्सम्पादने परान् विनियोक्तातो भवन्ति।
Now my question is whether the usage of "परान्" is right here. Should
it be "परेषाम्" ? Are both usages correct? I vaguely remember once
reading somewhere "कटम् कर्ता", meaning maker of mat. I don't
remember where. In that case "परान्" should be correct? Is there a
condition when or with which verb द्वितीया विभक्ति can be used, as
used in the given example?
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NathRao
I assume that it is really "svArthasampAdane" and "viniyoktAro".
There would be a difference in meaning between "parAn viniyoktAraH"
and "pareSAM viniyoktAraH": According to Panini, the former is used in
the meanings of "tat-shIla" tad-dharma" and "tat-sAdhukArin". So kaTAn
kartA would refer to one who is naturally inclined to make mats, one
who is duty-bound to make mats, or is very good at making mats.
Turning to your sentence, I find it impossible to understand this
sentence with either of the latter two meanings. The first is barely
possible for me, but may be that is what was meant. In other words,
the sentence is grammatically correct, but it is hard to understand
what it is supposed to mean. What was the original English sentence
anyway?
[BTW, this form, in Panini's language, was distinguished from the
perphrastic future by the placement of the udAtta: kaTAn ka'rtA means
"natural born mat maker", while kaTAn kartA' means " he will make
mats".]
Regards
Nath Rao
Hnbhat B.R.
Dr. Hari Narayana Bhat B.R. M.A., Ph.D.,
Research Scholar,
अभ्यंकरकुलोत्पन्नः श्रीपादः
Please inform the original English sentence. Mr. Nath Rao also has requested.
It is important to know the context, as explained also by Shri Bhat, when he quotes "विवक्षातः कारकाणि भवन्ति"
सस्नेहम्
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Rajagopalan Ayilam
Thanks for your explanations. The quoted sentence is from
J.Krishnamurthy's book, "the first and last freedom". A person is
translating some of his talks into Sanskrit. I had doubt in that
particular sentence.
For your informations I am giving the full pargraph in which the
sentence appears. The context is someone asks Krishnaji what is
simplicity?
He begins by replying like this "' Let us see what simplicity is not.
Don't say-"that is negation" or "tell us something positive". That is
immature, thoughtless reaction. Those people who offer you the
'positive' are exploiters; they have something to give you which you
want and through which they exploit you.""
The last sentence is the one which I posted as a query.
I hope this is clear enough.
Thanks for Nathji and Bhatji for their explanations.
Rajagopalan
On 22/05/2012, अभ्यंकरकुलोत्पन्नः श्रीपादः <sanskr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> नमो नमः श्रीमन् राजगोपालन्-महोदय !
> Please inform the original English sentence. Mr. Nath Rao also has
> requested.
> It is important to know the context, as explained also by Shri Bhat, when
> he quotes "विवक्षातः कारकाणि भवन्ति"
> सस्नेहम्
> *अभ्यंकरकुलोत्पन्नः श्रीपादः ।
> "श्रीपतेः पदयुगं स्मरणीयम् ।"*
> **संस्कृताध्ययनम् । <http://slabhyankar.wordpress.com/>*
> http://slabhyankar.wordpress.com *
> *गीतान्वेषणम् http://study1geetaa2sanskrit.wordpress.com
> *उपनिषदध्ययनम् <http://upanishat.wordpress.com/>
> http://upanishat.wordpress.com
> http://slez-musings.blogspot.com
> संस्कृत-प्रसृतिः http://sanskritaprasruti.wordpress.com/
> *सरलं संस्कृतम् http://simplesanskrit.wordpress.com/*
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>
>
>
> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Rajagopalan Ayilam
> <ayil...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have a doubt in Grammar.
>>
>> I read a Sanskrit translation of an english sentence as follows:
>>
>> ये तावत् विधिरूपमुपदिशन्ति ते नूनम् स्वार्थ्सम्पादने परान् विनियोक्तातो
>> भवन्ति।
>>
>> Now my question is whether the usage of "परान्" is right here. Should
>> it be "परेषाम्" ? Are both usages correct? I vaguely remember once
>> reading somewhere "कटम् कर्ता", meaning maker of mat. I don't
>> remember where. In that case "परान्" should be correct? Is there a
>> condition when or with which verb द्वितीया विभक्ति can be used, as
>> used in the given example?
>>
>>
>>
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Arvind_Kolhatkar
On Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:54:53 AM UTC-4, Rajagopalan Ayilam wrote: