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Andrey Novoseltsev  
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 More options Sep 8 2012, 5:06 pm
From: Andrey Novoseltsev <novos...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 14:06:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Sep 8 2012 5:06 pm
Subject: open vs. create worksheet
Hello,

Why the behaviour is different for clicking on an existing worksheet
(load the worksheet replacing the home page) and creating a new one
(load a new one in a new window)? Not like it is a big deal, but I
always found it to be slightly annoying and presumably it is very easy
to change it so that new worksheets are opened in the same window.

Thank you,
Andrey


 
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Andrea Lazzarotto  
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 More options Sep 9 2012, 5:16 am
From: Andrea Lazzarotto <andrea.lazzaro...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 11:16:19 +0200
Local: Sun, Sep 9 2012 5:16 am
Subject: Re: [sage-notebook] open vs. create worksheet

2012/9/8 Andrey Novoseltsev <novos...@gmail.com>

> Not like it is a big deal, but I
> always found it to be slightly annoying

Why? It looks very natural to me. It's the same behavior as Google Drive
and other web based editors.

> and presumably it is very easy
> to change it so that new worksheets are opened in the same window.

Yes it should be, if needed.

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Andrey Novoseltsev  
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 More options Sep 9 2012, 9:06 am
From: Andrey Novoseltsev <novos...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 06:06:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 9 2012 9:06 am
Subject: Re: open vs. create worksheet
On Sep 9, 3:16 am, Andrea Lazzarotto <andrea.lazzaro...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 2012/9/8 Andrey Novoseltsev <novos...@gmail.com>

> > Not like it is a big deal, but I
> > always found it to be slightly annoying

> Why? It looks very natural to me. It's the same behavior as Google Drive
> and other web based editors.

Because almost always my next step after creating a new worksheet is
to go back to the previous tab and close it. But if such behaviour is
actually consistent with the rest of the world, please ignore my
complaints!


 
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William Stein  
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 11:45 am
From: William Stein <wst...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:44:44 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 11:44 am
Subject: Re: [sage-notebook] Re: open vs. create worksheet

I implemented in 2007 the way it is now (opening a new window) for
consistency with Google Docs.  To be honest, I'm actually regularly
annoyed with that behavior of Google docs (and also with the notebook
having the same behavior).

Just my 2 cents.

>> > and presumably it is very easy
>> > to change it so that new worksheets are opened in the same window.

>> Yes it should be, if needed.

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Andrea Lazzarotto  
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 11:47 am
From: Andrea Lazzarotto <andrea.lazzaro...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:47:29 +0200
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 11:47 am
Subject: Re: [sage-notebook] Re: open vs. create worksheet

2012/9/10 William Stein <wst...@gmail.com>

> I implemented in 2007 the way it is now (opening a new window) for
> consistency with Google Docs.  To be honest, I'm actually regularly
> annoyed with that behavior of Google docs (and also with the notebook
> having the same behavior).

Really? For me it's quite good. What if you create a new worksheet and then
suddendly want to open another one? You just switch to the previous tab and
you're done. Also, if there are 1 or 2 tabs open the screen estate is
exactly the same.

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Andrey Novoseltsev  
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 11:58 am
From: Andrey Novoseltsev <novos...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:58:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 11:58 am
Subject: Re: open vs. create worksheet
On Sep 10, 9:47 am, Andrea Lazzarotto <andrea.lazzaro...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Really? For me it's quite good. What if you create a new worksheet and then
> suddendly want to open another one? You just switch to the previous tab and
> you're done. Also, if there are 1 or 2 tabs open the screen estate is
> exactly the same.

And what if you don't? And why doesn't it happen when you open an
existing worksheet? In general I prefer to have everything in the same
tab/window and if I want a new one - I'll open the link accordingly on
my own. I often use several Sage servers (e.g. for classes, for long
computations, for testing new patches) and if each one is operating in
the same tab - it is fine. If they start creating new tabs on their
own, I have to be more careful with who is who. That's just personal
preference, of course, but perhaps Google Docs is buggy ;-)

Andrey


 
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William Stein  
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 12:01 pm
From: William Stein <wst...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:00:55 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: [sage-notebook] Re: open vs. create worksheet

I agree with your preference.  Now-a-days, I think it would better at
this point to have multiple worksheets open in the same tab using
something like http://jqueryui.com/demos/tabs/.

 -- William

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 More options Sep 10 2012, 12:06 pm
From: Andrea Lazzarotto <andrea.lazzaro...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:06:15 +0200
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: [sage-notebook] Re: open vs. create worksheet

2012/9/10 William Stein <wst...@gmail.com>

> I agree with your preference.  Now-a-days, I think it would better at
> this point to have multiple worksheets open in the same tab using
> something like http://jqueryui.com/demos/tabs/.

Ok, but that method is still using tabs (from a Human-Computer Interaction
POV). So it's fine. I just totally don't agree to remove tabs. :P

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Keshav Kini  
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 4:55 pm
From: Keshav Kini <keshav.k...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:55:03 +0800
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: open vs. create worksheet

William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> writes:
> I agree with your preference.  Now-a-days, I think it would better at
> this point to have multiple worksheets open in the same tab using
> something like http://jqueryui.com/demos/tabs/.

I disagree - unless you want some kind of inter-worksheet communication
which is infeasible across multiple page containers, browser tabs are
perfectly sufficient, and more importantly, are more automatable and
have better accessibility features than jQuery UI tabs. As a user, I
wouldn't want to have to figure out how to reimplement something like gt
and gT (Pentadactyl's "next tab" and "previous tab" keyboard shortcuts)
in sagenb, for example.

-Keshav

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