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Tom Boothby  
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 More options Aug 29 2011, 2:01 pm
From: Tom Boothby <tomas.boot...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:01:13 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 29 2011 2:01 pm
Subject: Re: [sage-flame] Secret supporters of Sage?
We're actually supported by PepsiCo.  I guess we just failed to
mention it because it didn't seem important.
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:16 AM, rjf <fate...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does it matter to volunteers who supports Sage?  I remember when I was
> in graduate school, my advisor apparently asked the CIA for funding
> (he worked on translation of natural languages).  When this was made
> public, students were aghast.  His response was a shrug, and a comment
> that they didn't agree to support it. Ultimately no one appeared to
> care.

> In another thread I mentioned what I consider to be an oddity, which
> is that Sage appears to have an anonymous sponsor.  This could be

> 1. William Stein's Rich Uncle who would prefer not to be identified.
> 2. A US government agency that dares not speak its name.
> 3. A non-US government agency (uh, the secretive Libyans?).
> 4. A (privately held) company that would prefer to keep its donations
> secret.
> 5. A public incorporated company (stockholders uninformed??).
> 6. A US government agency that does not ask for anonymity but William
> is embarrassed by, and so William doesn't speak its name??

> I bet on #2, since William has obliquely mentioned US defense
> department, yet when I poked around I did not find any of the usual
> suspects (some of whom have sponsored me.. e.g. Air Force Office of
> Scientific Research, Army Research Office, DARPA/ARPA).  It is
> traditional and maybe even required by those agences as well as DOE
> and NSF or private companies to include published acknowledgment.

> There is no inherent conflict between "open-source" and "secret
> sponsor".   If some agency offered to sponsor research on condition
> that the funding source was keep secret, but with the research results
> being made entirely public, that might past muster at a research
> university. But odd.

> Opinions?

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