Received: by 10.68.196.232 with SMTP id ip8mr12744225pbc.6.1339945754627; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:09:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: sage-flame@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.233.8 with SMTP id ts8ls10315251pbc.7.gmail; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.190.104 with SMTP id gp8mr12764621pbc.4.1339945754465; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.190.104 with SMTP id gp8mr12764620pbc.4.1339945754455; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iq5si5151942pbc.1.2012.06.17.08.09.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of goodwillh...@googlemail.com designates 209.85.160.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.44; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of goodwillh...@googlemail.com designates 209.85.160.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=goodwillh...@googlemail.com; dkim=pass header...@googlemail.com Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id wy7so6688754pbc.3 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:09:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=POGZXGyzBv7n6ezclK5Vwnw3BvQy93txGY1a9XC2cLs=; b=TQNRMfvea1RN5EF4VDa0NG0FkYL1vi7QBNcnEOTkA8XXS1JqBrCVvhBDon1RgQSLAQ VhXPfK2WU6bwGCV6BSgaLrA1MpxJe1DCFAfIaSW+wxg/2JxwXVYIej0bN0kKK9zkdt/H UKSATM2/F+UiPaSI7e7YZ3nibS5Y3NZSCMS9mhef0k7IhJgQE25iNqgw7EErDoC5W9b9 uyNAdP0kCompFQb5Eny1I7wbUI0q1iJPx/vz/2iqYRp8N3NR0JQmI8D+WTCGpE6IKNQt wwT6e029s4SUvFtq8mM7va/mnmPglyZE99dRz9WmUhXKyBbklGlfSrxYDJZ6XjRVuEtu ADtQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.225.101 with SMTP id rj5mr41886217pbc.103.1339945754202; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.149.32 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:09:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1efc071f-c4a2-4ffa-ab38-6c50233bfdb7@googlegroups.com> References: <1efc071f-c4a2-4ffa-ab38-6c50233bfdb7@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:09:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [sage-flame] Using computers as teachers/tutors for math From: Bill Hart To: sage-flame@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you look at the results of all the products they studied, regardless of area, the results showed they didn't affect the outcome by amounts which could statistically be distinguished from zero. We know that the education system is broken and based on pseudoscience. But we'll never get it changed, as it means overturning thousands of years of tradition. Bill. On 17 June 2012 15:51, rjf wrote: > =A0I direct you to this pages from US Dept. of Education... > > http://ies.ed.gov/ncee/pubs/20074005/execsumm_algebra.asp > > where you can read that (as of 2007) > > The algebra study included three products that were implemented in 10 > districts and 23 schools. ... > > Products covered a conventional range of algebra topics. They included > functions, linear equations, and inequalities; quadratic equations; linea= r > expressions; polynomials; and so on. ..... > > Algebra products did not affect test scores by amounts that were > statistically different from zero > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-flame" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-flame/-/nkBNHFq6hFwJ. > To post to this group, send email to sage-flame@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > sage-flame+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-flame?hl=3Den.