> On Aug 30, 6:21 am, Bill Hart <goodwillh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, 29 August 2011, Tom Boothby <tomas.boot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > We're actually supported by PepsiCo.  I guess we just failed to
>> > mention it because it didn't seem important.

>> I don't believe you. Prove it to me.

> PepsiCo makes money selling non-nutritious drinks like Mountain Dew,
> and highly salted fatty snacks (Frito-Lay). Thought by some to be
> misleadingly advertised. Sold to people (e.g. children) who don't know
> better. It would be a fit, but I don't see why or how a company that
> is responsible to its stockholders would make an anonymous donation to
> math research, or why it would do so.

> There are instances of pharmaceutical companies sponsoring "medical
> research" or paying off authors, or even ghost-writing research papers
> and trying to conceal it, but this has come under close scrutiny. I
> think most math researchers would be happy to be paid off as
> "consultants" to give lectures at $50,000 a pop in Hawaii during math
> conferences, where they touted the efficacy of some expensive drug
> that hardly works better than some cheap generic.
> But Sage isn't expensive, at least monetarily.

>> Anyhow, does Richard really not know who the mystery sponsor is.

> If I knew, would I tell you?

>> He's just
>> toying right? I mean how did you keep it a secret from him given that just
>> about everyone else in the world knows?

> If everyone knows, why is William so coy?

>> Richard, it's not number 2. In fact, it's not given in your list.

> Why are you so coy?

>> William Stein's uncle supports Mathematica.

> And his grandmother Gertrude supports Picasso?

>> All US govt agencies love the sound of their own name. Especially when
>> funding is concerned.

>> Libyans aren't using sage for anything secretive. The only secret they have
>> now is where Gaddafi is and what he is using sage for.

> I thought he was shacking up with Anthony Casey.

>> A private company would beg to have Sage mention it's donation.

> That would be "its"  not "it's".  It's easy to remember: "it's" is a
> contraction for "it is", not possessive, at least in conventional
> English.

>  Begging is usually not required.
> Academic researchers are easy.

>> William is not embarrassed by US govt agencies that fund Sage.

>> But you were close though. Real close.

>> I have to admit though, this is all a nice change from the claim that
>> William just lies about his connections.

> It seems that  Bill, Ondrej, and Tom are comfy,
> not because Sage is supported anonymously, but because they
> know who the anonymous supporter(s) are.

> So the question might be asked of those who do not know, and whether
> it would matter.  (Pakistani intelligence service? North Korean
> nuclear agency? US National Security Agency?)

> Does it matter to you?

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