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 More options Mar 11 2012, 10:05 pm
From: kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:05:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Mar 11 2012 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: math & science majors need to know how to program -> unless they go into education

On Mar 10, 12:50 pm, "A. Jorge Garcia" <calcp...@aol.com> wrote:

> Jason Grout <jason-s...@creativetrax.com> wrote:

> On 3/10/12 10:23 AM, michel paul wrote:

> > This was a point made by KCrisman on the recent thread regarding
> > 'simplified function calls'. It immediately struck me as perfect for
> > K-12 education to hear, so I forwarded it to our math and science
> > departments.

> > It seems to have resonated! At least a little bit. : )

> We require our math majors to take the beginning CS programming course
> (which is currently in Java, but may switch to python sometime in the
> future...)

Ours switched to Python about three years ago :)

> Isn't that the wrong message? Math and Science majors should take compsci ESPECIALLY if going into education!!!

Sure, but this is not really required or demanded by most secondary
education positions currently, so I was talking about the employment
situation.  I'd like my majors to have had demanding literature
courses, too (preferably Shakespeare or Dostoevsky), but employers
aren't demanding that either, unfortunately.   Facility with things
like smartboards is, but not this. To be fair, if you have actually
observed any typical secondary classrooms lately (I have), this would
be asking a lot of teachers to add.  However, having the ability to
"smoothly" integrate things like Geogebra in a HS Geometry class,
instead of flailing about, would be very beneficial, true.

I'd be interested in hearing from others who actively place majors in
non-grad school, non-secondary positions.

- kcrisman


 
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