Hi,

I was searching for a easily and quickly way to make math tests/exercises
(I don't want a course management system like moodle <http://moodle.org/> or
webwork <http://webwork.maa.org/>).
Since I didn't find any great solution I start to make one:
http://smart-teacher.alwaysdata.net/

would be interested in comments :)
and in which other groups I could discuss it?

Raniere

Hi, Raniere,

2012/5/20 Raniere Gaia Silva <r.gaia...@gmail.com>:

I always liked the idea of having something like WebWork, but in clear
Python. And not burned in huge LMS.
My colleague is trying something similar in AcroTeX educational bundle
(we make it functioning in Linux).
But your approach has more potential for further development.

I think, You can post and discuss things also in python-edu SIG,
http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/

A few comments that might help with development of these ideas.

WeBWorK is divided into two (perhaps 3 ) parts. WeBWorK2 is an LMS.
The PG language
code provides problem rendering and answer evaluation.  PG has a
webservice and is pretty independent of the LMS. For example it
already serves has a handler of advanced mathematics problems for
Moodle.

A little work could completely decouple PG from WeBWorK2 -- and since
it communicates through a web service the new front end could be built
in any language you like.  It might be worth looking at some of the
design of the PG section -- in particular the pg/lib/WeBWorK/
Translator.pm  module and the use of macros and MathObjects.  The
power of the PG rendering and answer evaluation system developed over
the last 16 years would take some time to recreate. On the other hand
the full power may not be needed for every application.

The third part of WeBWorK is the NationalProblemLibrary, an enormous
collection of mathematics problems at all levels from pre-calculus to
ODE and complex variables, generously donated over the last decade by
mathematics instructors.  It has been only lightly curated (an ongoing
problem) so the quality varies.

While it would be relatively easy to replace the LMS with one written
in a different language it would be somewhat more difficult to rewrite
PG and I think nearly impossible to duplicate or translate the 20K
problems in the NPL. The best approach there would be to use a perl
interpreter embedded in another language such as Ruby or Python.

Mike Gage
https://webwork.maa.org/wiki

On May 21, 1:23 am, MišoLietavec <frca...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for all comments.

MišoLietavec,
there is some way to I take a look in what your colleague is trying?

Raniere

Hi Raniere

we are developing and using a package for that purpose for sage notebook
and for command-line. It's a different approach to the "online database of
dynamic questions". Templates are not yet translated to english (only
portuguese) and instalations tests must be done.  

Your web interface  seems to be very appealing and maybe we could integrate
or use your ideas if integration is not feasible.

Our project is at:
code: http://code.google.com/p/megua/
docs (english):  http://megua.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html
home (portuguese): cms.ua.pt/megua

all for now.

Pedro

Domingo, 20 de Maio de 2012 22:39:01 UTC+1, Raniere Gaia Silva escreveu:

Hi Pedro,

I'm very happy with your answer and agree that "maybe we could integrate or
use your ideas if integration is not feasible". (Maybe you like this
project: http://m3.ime.unicamp.br/)

This weekend I will that a deeper look in your project and soon give more
news. (I'm a undergraduate student of applied math at UNICAMP, Brazil - SP,
so portuguses is not a problem for me).

Raniere