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John H Palmieri  
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 More options Aug 2 2012, 9:46 pm
From: John H Palmieri <jhpalmier...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 18:46:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 2 2012 9:46 pm
Subject: should we check for openssl in prereq?

Given the number of people who have problems installing Sage because their
system is missing openssl, should we check for that in the prereq script,
so that the error is caught as soon as possible, and so that we can write a
good error message? (Note that I'm not volunteering to do this, because I
don't really know how...)

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Rob Beezer  
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 More options Aug 2 2012, 9:50 pm
From: Rob Beezer <goo...@beezer.cotse.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 18:50:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 2 2012 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: should we check for openssl in prereq?

As one who was bit by this, +1.


 
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Volker Braun  
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 More options Aug 2 2012, 10:16 pm
From: Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 19:16:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 2 2012 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: should we check for openssl in prereq?

If you are going to add this, maybe you can also add dpkg-architecture on
Ubuntu. This prerequisite (to figure out multiarch) one took me a while to
figure out, and it wasn't installed on the Ubuntu box that I played with.

Just today I was also thinking about adding a script in front of the whole
build process that will suggest a few required/suggested distribution
packages to install before running the compilation and abort if they are
not found. You could skip over that test by setting SAGE_PORT if you know
what you are doing. Any thoughts on that?


 
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William Stein  
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 More options Aug 2 2012, 10:40 pm
From: William Stein <wst...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 19:40:25 -0700
Local: Thurs, Aug 2 2012 10:40 pm
Subject: Re: [sage-devel] should we check for openssl in prereq?

On Thursday, August 2, 2012, Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you are going to add this, maybe you can also add dpkg-architecture on

Ubuntu. This prerequisite (to figure out multiarch) one took me a while to
figure out, and it wasn't installed on the Ubuntu box that I played with.
> Just today I was also thinking about adding a script in front of the

whole build process that will suggest a few required/suggested distribution
packages to install before running the compilation and abort if they are
not found. You could skip over that test by setting SAGE_PORT if you know
what you are doing. Any thoughts on that?


I'm +1 to this.

> On Thursday, August 2, 2012 9:46:47 PM UTC-4, John H Palmieri wrote:

>> Given the number of people who have problems installing Sage because

their system is missing openssl, should we check for that in the prereq
script, so that the error is caught as soon as possible, and so that we can
write a good error message? (Note that I'm not volunteering to do this,
because I don't really know how...)

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Jeroen Demeyer  
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 More options Aug 3 2012, 2:05 am
From: Jeroen Demeyer <jdeme...@cage.ugent.be>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 08:05:17 +0200
Local: Fri, Aug 3 2012 2:05 am
Subject: Re: [sage-devel] Re: should we check for openssl in prereq?
On 2012-08-03 04:16, Volker Braun wrote:
> If you are going to add this, maybe you can also add dpkg-architecture
> on Ubuntu. This prerequisite (to figure out multiarch) one took me a
> while to figure out, and it wasn't installed on the Ubuntu box that I
> played with.

And how are you going to find out whether you're on a system which has
multi-arch?  That's non-trivial by itself.

 
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Jeroen Demeyer  
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 More options Aug 3 2012, 2:11 am
From: Jeroen Demeyer <jdeme...@cage.ugent.be>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 08:11:00 +0200
Subject: Re: [sage-devel] should we check for openssl in prereq?
On 2012-08-03 03:46, John H Palmieri wrote:

> Given the number of people who have problems installing Sage because
> their system is missing openssl, should we check for that in the prereq
> script, so that the error is caught as soon as possible, and so that we
> can write a good error message? (Note that I'm not volunteering to do
> this, because I don't really know how...)

I created http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13329 for this.

 
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Jeroen Demeyer  
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 More options Aug 3 2012, 6:16 am
From: Jeroen Demeyer <jdeme...@cage.ugent.be>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:16:33 +0200
Local: Fri, Aug 3 2012 6:16 am
Subject: Re: [sage-devel] should we check for openssl in prereq?
On 2012-08-03 08:11, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
Needs review.

 
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Volker Braun  
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 More options Aug 3 2012, 9:58 am
From: Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 06:58:01 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 3 2012 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [sage-devel] Re: should we check for openssl in prereq?

If the system has dpkg, then it should also have dpkg-architecture. Or you
have to set SAGE_PORT and skip the prerequisite checks if you feel
adventurous.

I've updated the ticket with a new version to that effect.


 
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Jan Groenewald  
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 More options Aug 4 2012, 6:09 am
From: Jan Groenewald <j...@aims.ac.za>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:09:14 +0000
Local: Sat, Aug 4 2012 6:09 am
Subject: Re: [sage-devel] Re: should we check for openssl in prereq?

Hi

Seems dpkg-architecture is in dpkg-dev not dpkg.
0 jan@osprey:~$dpkg -S dpkg-architecture
dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/es/man1/dpkg-architecture.1.gz
dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/de/man1/dpkg-architecture.1.gz
dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/sv/man1/dpkg-architecture.1.gz
dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/pl/man1/dpkg-architecture.1.gz
dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/fr/man1/dpkg-architecture.1.gz
dpkg-dev: /usr/bin/dpkg-architecture
dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/man1/dpkg-architecture.1.gz

Regards,
Jan

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Volker Braun  
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 More options Aug 4 2012, 9:49 am
From: Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 06:49:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 4 2012 9:49 am
Subject: Re: [sage-devel] Re: should we check for openssl in prereq?

This is precisely my point, for some reason dpkg-architecture is not
installed by default, while dpkg is of course installed by default. So
prereq should check that it is. AFAIR Python will silently compile to a
very reduced featurese because it can't find multiarch libraries, which is
why this is particularly tricky to debug.


 
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