Dear friends,
I received an email and responded like this to the sender. If you have different opinion you are most welcome. But it is time to voice it. Please feel free to forward this if you feel appropriate.
Regarding the point below
· Point 1
o Lokpal & Lokayukta shall have powers to investigate and prosecute any judge without needing anyone’s permission
Regarding the above point I differ.
Suppose if a judge (say supreme court) is giving a judgement in the court that the lokpal people themselves are corrupt and action need to taken on them what will happen if the
lokpal chief (or body) is ordering dismissal of a judge in order to protect himself.
We need to counter check this else it is danger later they may take a political advantage also based on this.
What should we do for this?
Step1: I would suggest dismissal of judge can be directly sent to the president to sign by the lokpal chief.
Step2: The president may be entitled to reject it only for three times and not more. If he rejects to sign then the lokpal chief has the right to sent to the chief of the parliament to pass it in the parliament for impeachment vote against the president. (like the prime minister or the ruling party is having now)
Step3: If the president rejects the lokpal order then the order should be sent to the parliament for the dismissal of the supreme court judge/ lokpal chief vice versa.
Step3-B: If the chief of the parliament is hesitating to give it to the vote of the parliament members in the next two session of the parliament then the chief of the parliament and the parliament should be ordered to dissolution and a re-election should be conducted by the election commission and the lokpal should issue appropriate order to the election commission.
· Point 2
o Politicians will have absolutely no say in selections of Chairperson and members of Lokpal & Lokayukta. Selections will take place through a transparent and public participatory process.
How do we know it is transparent and no politics involved. Most of the so called social service organizations and so called social service people are also corrupt and are politically supported people. They are more corrupt than the politicians (as one of my friend used to say NGO has more politics than the politicians themselves)
I do not have answer for the question transparency.
Anbudan
Sarangarajan.R
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See how Lokpal Bill can curb the politicians, Circulate it to create awareness
Existing System |
System Proposed by civil society |
No politician or senior officer ever goes to jail despite huge evidence because Anti Corruption Branch (ACB) and CBI directly come under the government. Before starting investigation or prosecution in any case, they have to take permission from the same bosses, against whom the case has to be investigated. |
Lokpal at centre and Lokayukta at state level will be independent bodies. ACB and CBI will be merged into these bodies. They will have power to initiate investigations and prosecution against any officer or politician without needing anyone’s permission. Investigation should be completed within 1 year and trial to get over in next 1 year. Within two years, the corrupt should go to jail. |
No corrupt officer is dismissed from the job because Central Vigilance Commission, which is supposed to dismiss corrupt officers, is only an advisory body. Whenever it advises government to dismiss any senior corrupt officer, its advice is never implemented. |
Lokpal and Lokayukta will have complete powers to order dismissal of a corrupt officer. CVC and all departmental vigilance will be merged into Lokpal and state vigilance will be merged into Lokayukta. |
No action is taken against corrupt judges because permission is required from the Chief Justice of India to even register an FIR against corrupt judges. |
Lokpal & Lokayukta shall have powers to investigate and prosecute any judge without needing anyone’s permission. |
Nowhere to go - People expose corruption but no action is taken on their complaints. |
Lokpal & Lokayukta will have to enquire into and hear every complaint. |
There is so much corruption within CBI and vigilance departments. Their functioning is so secret that it encourages corruption within these agencies. |
All investigations in Lokpal & Lokayukta shall be transparent. After completion of investigation, all case records shall be open to public. Complaint against any staff of Lokpal & Lokayukta shall be enquired and punishment announced within two months. |
Weak and corrupt people are appointed as heads of anti-corruption agencies. |
Politicians will have absolutely no say in selections of Chairperson and members of Lokpal & Lokayukta. Selections will take place through a transparent and public participatory process. |
Citizens face harassment in government offices. Sometimes they are forced to pay bribes. One can only complaint to senior officers. No action is taken on complaints because senior officers also get their cut. |
Lokpal & Lokayukta will get public grievances resolved in time bound manner, impose a penalty of Rs 250 per day of delay to be deducted from the salary of guilty officer and award that amount as compensation to the aggrieved citizen. |
Nothing in law to recover ill gotten wealth. A corrupt person can come out of jail and enjoy that money. |
Loss caused to the government due to corruption will be recovered from all accused. |
Small punishment for corruption- Punishment for corruption is minimum 6 months and maximum 7 years. |
Enhanced punishment - The punishment would be minimum 5 years and maximum of life imprisonment. |
Dear All, Please go through the details carefully & try to be part of this mission against corruption. Things to know about Anna Hazare and Lok pal Bill-:
1.Who is Anna Hazare?
An ex-army man(Unmarried). Fought 1965 Indo-Pak war.
2.What's so special about him?
He built a village Ralegaon Siddhi in Ahamad Nagar district, Maharashtra.
3.This village is a self-sustained model village. Energy is produced in the village itself from solar power, biofuel and wind mills. In 1975, it used to be a poverty clad village. Now it is one of the richest village in India. It has become a model for self-sustained, eco-friendly & harmonic village.
4. This guy, Anna Hazare was awarded Padma Bhushan and is a known figure for his social activities.
5. He is supporting a cause, the amendment of a law to curb corruption in India.
6. How that can be possible?
He is advocating for a Bill, The Lok Pal Bill (The Citizen Ombudsman Bill), that will form an autonomous authority who will make politicians (ministers), bureaucrats (IAS/IPS) accountable for their deeds.
7. It's an entirely new thing right..?
In 1972, the bill was proposed by then Law minister Mr. Shanti Bhushan. Since then it has been neglected by the politicians and some are trying to change the bill to suit their theft (corruption).
8. Oh.. He is going on a hunger strike for that whole thing of passing a Bill ! How can that be possible in such a short span of time? The first thing he is asking for is: the govt should come forward and announce that the bill is going to be passed. Next, they make a joint committee to DRAFT the LOK PAL BILL. 50% government participation and 50% public participation. Bcoz u can't trust the government entirely for making such a bill which does not suit them.
9.What will happen when this bill is passed?
A LokPal will be appointed at the centre. He will have an autonomous charge, say like the Election Commission of India. In each and every state, Lokayukta will be appointed. The job is to bring all alleged party to trial in case of corruptions within 1 year. Within 2 years, the guilty will be punished.
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