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Richmond Mathewson  
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 More options Apr 16 2008, 4:07 am
From: Richmond Mathewson <gerada...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:07:29 +0100 (BST)
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 4:07 am
Subject: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Well I tested the 2.9 Beta at quite a considerable
cost in time to myself, and with my extant licence for
RevMedia 2.7.1 expected some sort of acknowledgement.
But it was not to be. Pity really.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson

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Petrides, M.D. Marian  
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From: "Petrides, M.D. Marian" <mpetri...@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:14:27 -0500
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 7:14 am
Subject: Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Richmond,

Such is the nature of public betas.  People who beta tested OSX as  
part of the public beta still had to buy it.

However, I thought purchasers of 2.7 got a free upgrade. Or am I  
wrong?  You might want to check with Rev support.

M
On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:07 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> Well I tested the 2.9 Beta at quite a considerable
> cost in time to myself, and with my extant licence for
> RevMedia 2.7.1 expected some sort of acknowledgement.
> But it was not to be. Pity really.

> sincerely, Richmond Mathewson

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-= JB =-  
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 More options Apr 16 2008, 7:41 am
From: -= JB =- <sund...@pacifier.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:41:13 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 7:41 am
Subject: Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Here is a message that was posted concerning the release of 2.9 being  
free:

        Subject:        Re: concerning 2.9 as "free"
        From:     w...@wjm.org
        Date:   February 25, 2008 10:19:39 AM PST

Heather has posted this information in the forums. I'll do the same  
here:

You get Rev 2.9 for free if:
     - You had an active update pack/license on 1 February 2006
     - You purchased any version of Revolution 2.7.x
     - You bought a RevSelect Holiday bundle
     - You have an active license pack valid on the date of 2.9's  
release

The free updates do not affect any other aspect of licensing. Your  
license
is not extended another three months or year, for example. You are just
getting the new version.

Example 1:

Bill has a Studio 2.6.1 license that expired Feb 5, 2006. He has not
purchased any new versions since then. He gets Rev 2.9 for free, but
otherwise his license is still "inactive." He'll have to renew the  
license
for any future versions.

Example 2:

Charles bought Revolution 2.7.3 and 2.8.1 and the RevSelect Holiday  
Bundle.
His license is current through December 2008. He'll receive Rev 2.9  
as part
of his update pack license, as well as any versions released the rest of
this year.

We have not announced what versions will follow 2.9, but you're  
correct that
if you don't have an update pack, these will not be free upgrades. (A  
good
reason to get your licks in on the final beta.)

Bill

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

On Apr 16, 2008, at 4:14 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote:

> Richmond,

> Such is the nature of public betas.  People who beta tested OSX as  
> part of the public beta still had to buy it.

> However, I thought purchasers of 2.7 got a free upgrade. Or am I  
> wrong?  You might want to check with Rev support.

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Bill Marriott  
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 More options Apr 16 2008, 9:34 am
From: "Bill Marriott" <w...@wjm.org>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:34:05 -0400
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 9:34 am
Subject: Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Richmond,

The most important thing we all "got" out of the beta was a much-improved
product.

We're still evaluating what we want to do to recognize active testers. There
will be a final beta update shortly with this info and a wrap-up on the beta
program in general.

Bill

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Sarah Reichelt  
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 More options Apr 16 2008, 7:13 pm
From: "Sarah Reichelt" <sarah.reich...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:13:40 +1000
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson <gerada...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well I tested the 2.9 Beta at quite a considerable
>  cost in time to myself, and with my extant licence for
>  RevMedia 2.7.1 expected some sort of acknowledgement.
>  But it was not to be. Pity really.

For my part, I thoroughly enjoyed beta-testing. All I expected to get
out of it was for Revolution to be improved and I certainly got that.
I gather from the newsletter that there were about 800 beta testers,
so I don't see that acknowledging us all in the credits would have
been possible.

What did you expect Richmond? Perhaps next time you should stay out of
the beta program if you do not feel that the intrinsic rewards are
sufficient.

Sarah
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Richmond Mathewson  
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 More options Apr 17 2008, 2:47 am
From: Richmond Mathewson <gerada...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:47:51 +0100 (BST)
Local: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 2:47 am
Subject: Beta testers who get nothing . . .

Sarah Reichel wrote:

"For my part, I thoroughly enjoyed beta-testing. All I
expected to get
out of it was for Revolution to be improved and I
certainly got that."

Yes, you are right insofar as the actual Beta-testing
goes. However, I thought that on the strength of my
RevMedia 2.7.1 license I might be allowed, at least,
RevMedia 2.9. What could be at fault is my reading of
the offer about extant licenses.

Hwever, having had people Beta-testing various
products of mine, I have always left them with, either
a Beta version that does not expire, or a copy of the
finished product. May be that is why my average
monthly income just about equals my monthly spending -
the big businessman I am not.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson

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Bill Marriott  
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 More options Apr 17 2008, 5:19 am
From: "Bill Marriott" <w...@wjm.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:19:44 -0400
Local: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 5:19 am
Subject: Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Richmond,


I thought that on the strength of my
RevMedia 2.7.1 license I might be allowed, at least,
RevMedia 2.9.
<<<

We only just now released Rev 2.9 for Mac and Windows (Linux coming
shortly).

Since you purchased a version of Revolution 2.7.x, you get 2.9 for free. You
and others who purchased Media 2.7.x will be getting that email with a
download link and 2.9 Media code very shortly.

- Bill

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Kay C Lan  
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 More options Apr 17 2008, 8:56 pm
From: "Kay C Lan" <lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:56:52 +0800
Local: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Bill Marriott <w...@wjm.org> wrote:

> We only just now released Rev 2.9 for Mac and Windows (Linux coming
> shortly).

I think you meant: Rev Media 2.9
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William Marriott  
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 More options Apr 17 2008, 10:45 pm
From: William Marriott <w...@wjm.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:45:59 -0400
Local: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 10:45 pm
Subject: Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Hi Kay,

 > I think you meant: Rev Media 2.9

Indeed I did :)

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Éric Miclo  
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 More options Apr 19 2008, 7:55 am
From: Éric Miclo <eric.mi...@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:55:01 +0200
Local: Sat, Apr 19 2008 7:55 am
Subject: Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
On my side the only thing I'd like for ß-testing is that Runtime, due  
to a good selling 2.9 version, obtains the needed resources to address  
specific issues of the product (for me bugs #670 and #4944) and show  
the will to address them (and not only make promises), preferabely not  
in several years...

Best,

ÉrIC

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