Re: Your Ruby IDE

[Shawn Koppenhoefer]

Robert MannI wrote:
> I'm using TextMate.
> I'd love to try out VIM.

Would anyone use anything *else* than TextMate if on a Mac ? :-) hint
hint, nudge nudge, wink wink.

p.s. Oh my god!.. I just realized how old this thread is! prev-post is
early2006.

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[Leonardo Mateo]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Shawn Koppenhoefer
<rails-mai...@andreas-s.net> wrote:
>
> Robert MannI wrote:
>> I'm using TextMate.
>> I'd love to try out VIM.
>
> Would anyone use anything *else* than TextMate if on a Mac ? :-) hint
> hint, nudge nudge, wink wink.

Yes, of course, there's a lot of people using VIM on a Mac.

>
>
> p.s. Oh my god!.. I just realized how old this thread is! prev-post is
> early2006.

Nevermind, these questions never get old fashioned. :)

By the way, I'm using VIM on a linux box.

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[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

Stewart Matheson wrote:
> Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering
> what you guys use?

Rails does not need or benefit from a real IDE. I dropped Aptana and
NetBeans and use KomodoEdit for Rails development. jEdit is also worth
a look.

>
> features i like in an ide
>
> code highlites
> auto code complete
> file browser

I like a project browser and syntax highlighting. I don't have much use
for code completion: it would be nice to have (and in fact KomodoEdit
does have it) but because of Ruby's dynamic nature, I've yet to see code
completion for Ruby that actually works well.

>
> Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really bad
> its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data config.

Best,
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mar...@marnen.org

[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

Shawn Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Robert MannI wrote:
>> I'm using TextMate.
>> I'd love to try out VIM.
>
> Would anyone use anything *else* than TextMate if on a Mac ? :-) hint
> hint, nudge nudge, wink wink.

I'm using KomodoEdit on a Mac. I refuse to spend all that money on a
text editor.

>
>
> p.s. Oh my god!.. I just realized how old this thread is! prev-post is
> early2006.

Best,

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Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
mar...@marnen.org

[Shawn Koppenhoefer]

Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:
>
> Rails does not need or benefit from a real IDE. I dropped Aptana and
> NetBeans and use KomodoEdit for Rails development. jEdit is also worth
> a look.

I used Aptana fora while before going the JEdit route for my first (and
so far only) sizeable Rails app. But now that I'm playing more on my Mac
I'm a happy camper with Textmate (and WordWrangler).
I have to say though, that the code-completion of X-code during my
iPhone newbie-dev hours is very agreeable. Once you start trusting WHAT
the completions will be you don't need to watch it happen. What a
fantastic way to avoid code syntax errors... or at least reduce their
frequency!

S.

[Aldric Giacomoni]

Stewart Matheson wrote:
> Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering
> what you guys use?
>

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al_hzYODcgxwdG9tUFhqcVVoUDVaLTlqT2YtNjV1N0E&hl=en

[Shawn Koppenhoefer]

P.s. I haven't found a suitable emergency editor for my iPhone (HTML
edit can't resave the src back to the server ;( and 'Code Viewer' can't
open urls or ftp's)(and iOctocat ca't edit and resave back to the
repository ;(
Short of using vnc or a terminal connection, anyone found a decent if
awkward, solution?

... Yeah, I know,.. Buy a portable... soon... soon.

[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

Shawn Koppenhoefer wrote:
> P.s. I haven't found a suitable emergency editor for my iPhone (HTML
> edit can't resave the src back to the server ;( and 'Code Viewer' can't
> open urls or ftp's)(and iOctocat ca't edit and resave back to the
> repository ;(
> Short of using vnc or a terminal connection, anyone found a decent if
> awkward, solution?

Github edit, perhaps? I've never tried in on my iPhone, but it should
work...

>
> ... Yeah, I know,.. Buy a portable... soon... soon.

:)

Best,
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Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
mar...@marnen.org

[John Yerhot]

Emacs baby.

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsForMacOS
and
http://github.com/technomancy/emacs-starter-kit/
will get you on your way.

On Oct 29, 8:04 am, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-l...@andreas-

[Łukasz Badura]

For quick hacking sessions or really small projects I use vim with a
bunch of plugins. For every day work I use Netbeans. It's a great IDE
for Ruby/Python/PHP after some configuration effort. I'm working on
linux boxes, however a friend at work uses successfuly Netbeans on his
MacBook.

Łukasz Badura | http://www.badurowie.org

[Matthew Shapiro]

Looks like I'm the only one using Ruby in Steel (Ruby plugin for Visual
Studio). I love it, but I'm a Windows user primarily and I use Visual
Studio for my work programming anyways.

[Rob Saul]

Łukasz Badura wrote:
> For quick hacking sessions or really small projects I use vim with a
> bunch of plugins. For every day work I use Netbeans. It's a great IDE
> for Ruby/Python/PHP after some configuration effort. I'm working on
> linux boxes, however a friend at work uses successfuly Netbeans on his
> MacBook.

I too use NetBean, but I also do no small amount of Java EE work. I
prefer Coda to TextMate. For quick edits vi has been, and always
will be, my friend.

[Aldric Giacomoni]

I used Netbeans a fair amount, but I just purchased a license for
Rubymine.. So for me, it's gonna be Rubymine and gVim + irb :-)

[Jillian Galloway]

I use Netbeans as well but it's not as good as eclipse which I use for java.

[E. Litwin]

I have used NetBeans (on Linux) in the past, but I am switching to
Komodo Edit. I was purely using NetBeans as a text editor (no
debugging, no running rake/script tasks, etc.), so I figure I might as
well use a lighter weight editor.

I had tried using Komodo Edit before (prior to version 5.2), but it
had crashed on me occasionally, which I thought was very odd since I
wasn't pushing it particularly hard. So far, version 5.2 seems stable.

On Oct 29, 1:13 pm, Jillian Galloway <jwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I use Netbeans as well but it's not as good as eclipse which I use for java.
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Aldric Giacomoni <
>

[Chris Cowan]

VIM is pretty good when you add in the Nerd Tree plugin (NERD_tree.vim). You can also get the snippets working similar to TextMate with the     (snippetsEmu.vim). That's typically what I use when I'm not on my home computer and I need to login to my remote dev box to make some quick updates or changes. I've tried to break away from TextMate a few times but I've been unsuccessful... They have a stranglehold on me.

--
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"Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity"
-- Charls Mingus, Jazz Bassist

[Greg Donald]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:18 AM, John Yerhot <joye...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Emacs baby.

I agree, there's nothing as powerful as Emacs. I have yet to find
something it can't do.

--
Greg Donald
http://destiney.com/

[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

Greg Donald wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:18 AM, John Yerhot <joye...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Emacs baby.
>
> I agree, there's nothing as powerful as Emacs. I have yet to find
> something it can't do.

Display an attractive GUI? Or have things changed?

(I like console Emacs, but find Xemacs just about unusable.)

>
>
> --
> Greg Donald
> http://destiney.com/

Best,

[Rick]

for MacOS you should look at: http://aquamacs.org/ and load in:
http://rubyforge.org/projects/emacs-rails

emacs is not a simple learn but you've got to love a an editor that's

1) has been available on every os platform since the early 80's
2) is a historic part of the open software community
3) is fully extensible, written in C, programmable in elisp
4) the programmer's hanzo - tool of choice

On Oct 29, 5:31 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-l...@andreas-

s.net> wrote:
> Greg Donald wrote:

> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:18 AM, John Yerhot <joyer...@gmail.com>

> > wrote:
> >> Emacs baby.
>
> > I agree, there's nothing as powerful as Emacs.  I have yet to find
> > something it can't do.
>
> Display an attractive GUI?  Or have things changed?
>
> (I like console Emacs, but find Xemacs just about unusable.)
>
>
>
> > --
> > Greg Donald
> >http://destiney.com/
>
> Best,
> --

[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

Rick Lloyd wrote:
> for MacOS you should look at: http://aquamacs.org/

I have. My recollection is that it's attractive and usable, but didn't
seem like any improvement over the console version. It was long enough
ago that I don't remember exactly what my issues were.

> and load in:
> http://rubyforge.org/projects/emacs-rails
>
> emacs is not a simple learn but you've got to love a an editor that's
>
> 1) has been available on every os platform since the early 80's
> 2) is a historic part of the open software community
> 3) is fully extensible, written in C, programmable in elisp
> 4) the programmer's hanzo - tool of choice

I agree -- emacs is absolutely my console editor of choice. But I don't
like using console editors when a GUI editor is available.

>
> On Oct 29, 5:31�pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-l...@andreas-

Best,

[Billee D.]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I really like Coda for all my
coding purposes. :-)

I used TextMate and a few others over the years -- Eclipse, Aptana,
VIM...well I still use VIM and sometimes Nano for a quick edit -- but
I just like how Coda feels. Plus, if you dial in your local settings
for your Coda project you get the built-in preview right in the IDE
like Eclipse. I hear Espresso is pretty decent too, but most Rails
folks I know use TextMate probably due to the multitude of snips and
bundles for Rails. I still pop into TextMate occasionally, but I'm
hooked on Coda now. :-)

On Oct 29, 7:28 am, Shawn Koppenhoefer <rails-mailing-l...@andreas-

[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

Billee D. wrote:
> I'll probably get flamed for this, but I really like Coda for all my
> coding purposes. :-)

You certainly won't get flamed by me. I've used Coda very little
indeed, but what I've seen, I like.

Best,
--
Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
mar...@marnen.org

[Paolo Montrasio]

Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:
> I agree -- emacs is absolutely my console editor of choice. But I don't
> like using console editors when a GUI editor is available.

emacs is a GUI editor nowadays. The Linux GTK version based on emacs 23
is great. You can do everything with the mouse and menus, even if
usually using the command keys is faster because you don't have to move
the hands away from where they are most of the time (the keyboard) but
you probably know that.

An example:
http://www.skybert.nu/cgi-bin/viewpage.py.cgi?computers+emacs+java_programming_tutorial

I've been using both netbeans 6.5 and emacs in the last year. I'm
mandated to use netbeans for a customer's Java project and I use emacs
for everything else. I think that emacs just beats netbeans feature by
feature. However I concede two things:

1) It still feels like a console application with a GUI layer added to
it.

2) It requires a good deal of customization to get it up to par with
modern IDEs from the out-of-the-box version (adding modes, installing
the right .el files, writing some elisp, etc). That's why I use it only
on my machine. I use vi over ssh connections to servers and whatever I
find on other desktops, from notepad to kate or Textmate.

Paolo

[saideep a.v.s]

If not Text Mate.. then EMACS

Best Wishes,
Saideep Annadatha

[Greg Donald]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser
<rails-mai...@andreas-s.net> wrote:
>> I agree, there's nothing as powerful as Emacs.  I have yet to find
>> something it can't do.
>
> Display an attractive GUI?  Or have things changed?

Looks really nice to me:

http://static.destiney.com/emacs_screen_shot.jpg

[Saravanan Krishnan]

Why dont you go for SciTE editor. It is simple and powerful

[Leonardo Mateo]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Saravanan Krishnan
<rails-mai...@andreas-s.net> wrote:
>
>
> Why dont you go for SciTE editor. It is simple and powerful

...becase my editor is simple and powerful and I'm happy with it?

[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

Impressive. Is that xemacs + Cygwin, or what?

[Greg Donald]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser
<rails-mai...@andreas-s.net> wrote:
> Impressive.  Is that xemacs + Cygwin, or what?

That's plain old Emacs 23.1 on Windows 7.

http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windows/

[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

Greg Donald wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser
> <rails-mai...@andreas-s.net> wrote:
>> Impressive. �Is that xemacs + Cygwin, or what?
>
> That's plain old Emacs 23.1 on Windows 7.
>
> http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windows

Interesting. The last time I ran Emacs in a graphical environment, it
looked nowhere near that good -- in fact, I considered it pretty much an
unusable eyesore. I'll have to investigate further, or perhaps give
Aquamacs another try.

>
>
> --
> Greg Donald
> http://destiney.com/

Best,

[Sandip Ransing]

Scite is good for html and erb coding.

Vi with rails.vim configuration is always best for any development

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