IIS, new FastCGI support, and Rails
pboling
versions 5.1, 6, and 7. Zend (the PHP people) are working with MS to
get PHP supported, and PHP5 is supported in the technical preview
release out now:
http://www.iis.net/default.aspx?tabid=1000051
Would it be possible for someone on the core team to contact Mike
Volodarsky:
http://mvolo.com/2006/11/17/while-you-were-out-.aspx?results=1
to discuss getting this working on RoR.
Mike has already said getting RoR compatibility is one of his goals:
http://forums.iis.net/ShowThread.aspx?PostID=1448886&PermaPostID=1449597#1449597
But it doesn't seem to be working at the moment with Ruby:
http://forums.iis.net/ShowThread.aspx?PostID=1448886&PermaPostID=1449312#1449312
If RoR could run as easily on IIS servers as it does on mongrel and
webrick, or even apache and lighttpd, then it would be a huge boon to
the community. I don't know enough about ruby or Windows to be of any
help personally <newb> but I am hoping someone out there does!
Primary benefit to me (and many others on blogs/forums I've read) of
getting RoR on IIS:
Single Sign On through Active Directory or NTLM. If a user has logged
into their Windows machine, then they are automatically logged into
internal company webapps, bypassing the login screen. This is a
requirement in the design spec of the apps I am building.
Thanks,
Peter
Josh Knowles
Would it be possible for someone on the core team to contact Mike
Volodarsky:
http://mvolo.com/2006/11/17/while-you-were-out-.aspx?results=1
to discuss getting this working on RoR.
Josh
--
Josh Knowles
joshk...@gmail.com
http://joshknowles.com
Peter Boling
this topic gets more exposure, because IIS is the standard at the
office, and I want to use Rails at the office.
Peter
Mike Volodarsky
in trying to get other frameworks onboard the FastCGI train, but
unfortunately having some issues with Ruby due to our lack of
experience with it. Your help will be instrumental in getting RoR
running on Windows better - not every day an opportunity like this
comes along :)
Anyway, bounce me an email and we'll chat about it.
Mike
P.S. Peter, thanks for being proactive!
ryan...@gmail.com
forum or a site that is showing status and existing issues with the RoR
on IIS with FastCGI? I've been looking for a solid solution to this
problem for a few months as I'm looking at transitioning to RoR but
have the limitation of having to use IIS for the webserver. So, if you
guys get this working, it will be much appreciated by me.
Thanks!
Ryan
Brian Hogan
Contact me directly.. I can point you to some materials I wrote. I currently deploy lots of apps behind IIS using various techniques. None of them are 'built in' but I'm investigating this new method right now.
Anyone else interested can contact me as well - don't want to hijack this thread.
Ryan Prellwitz
My environment is (very unfortunately) limited to a strict IIS
environment without allowing Mongrel to sit behind IIS, so I'm really
interested in the FastCGI alternative. Thanks for responding and for
your help.
-Ryan
Brian Hogan
I am running it behind IIS using mongrel or Apache or *gasp* even Lighttpd on Linux. I'm not entirely sure why you are limited to IIS only... Mongrel runs very nicely as a Windows NT service. That's unfortunate. You'll have to try to convince them otherwise; trust me... it can be done :)
bheinz
take a look at my Ruby On Rails For IIS Fast-CGI installer hosted on MS
new open source site...
http://www.codeplex.com/RORIIS
Thanks,
B
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> @Ryan:<br><br>I am running it behind IIS using mongrel or Apache or *gasp* even Lighttpd on Linux. I'm not entirely sure why you are limited to IIS only... Mongrel runs very nicely as a Windows NT service. That's unfortunate. You'll have to try to convince them otherwise; trust me... it can be done :)
> <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/15/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ryan Prellwitz</b> <<a href="mailto:ryan...@gmail.com">ryan...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> <br>Thanks Brian. Are you working on RoR using FastCGI or using Mongrel.<br>My environment is (very unfortunately) limited to a strict IIS<br>environment without allowing Mongrel to sit behind IIS, so I'm really<br>interested in the FastCGI alternative. Thanks for responding and for
> <br>your help.<br><br>-Ryan<br><br>On 12/15/06, Brian Hogan <<a href="mailto:bph...@gmail.com">bph...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> @Ryan:<br>><br>> Contact me directly.. I can point you to some materials I wrote. I currently
> <br>> deploy lots of apps behind IIS using various techniques. None of them are<br>> 'built in' but I'm investigating this new method right now.<br>><br>> Anyone else interested can contact me as well - don't want to hijack this
> <br>> thread.<br>><br>><br>> On 12/14/06, <a href="mailto:ryan...@gmail.com">ryan...@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:ryan...@gmail.com">ryan...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Is there further discussion on this topic happening in a different
> <br>> > forum or a site that is showing status and existing issues with the RoR<br>> > on IIS with FastCGI? I've been looking for a solid solution to this<br>> > problem for a few months as I'm looking at transitioning to RoR but
> <br>> > have the limitation of having to use IIS for the webserver. So, if you<br>> > guys get this working, it will be much appreciated by me.<br>> ><br>> > Thanks!<br>> ><br>> > Ryan
> <br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>><br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>
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Mike Volodarsky
FastCGI-compliant executable? This is necessary in order to
interoperate with any FastCGI server over the FastCGI protocol
(http://www.fastcgi.com/devkit/doc/fcgi-spec.html).
So far, it doesnt appear that Ruby.exe or Rubyw.exe are it - although
maybe they require some command line switches or environment variables
to kick into FastCGI mode.
This appears to be the last blocking factor for us to get Ruby going
with the FastCGI support we are building
(http://www.iis.net/default.aspx?tabid=1000051).
Any information much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
On Dec 22, 2:36 am, "bheinz" <brent.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Until MS fixes the issues with their isapi_fcgi.dll for Ruby, you can
> take a look at my Ruby On Rails For IIS Fast-CGI installer hosted on MS
> new open source site...
>
> http://www.codeplex.com/RORIIS
>
> Thanks,
> B
>
>
>
> Brian Hogan wrote:
> > @Ryan:
>
> > I am running it behind IIS using mongrel or Apache or *gasp* even Lighttpd
> > on Linux. I'm not entirely sure why you are limited to IIS only... Mongrel
> > runs very nicely as a Windows NT service. That's unfortunate. You'll have to
> > try to convince them otherwise; trust me... it can be done :)
>
> > On 12/15/06, Ryan Prellwitz <ryanp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Thanks Brian. Are you working on RoR using FastCGI or using Mongrel.
> > > My environment is (very unfortunately) limited to a strict IIS
> > > environment without allowing Mongrel to sit behind IIS, so I'm really
> > > interested in the FastCGI alternative. Thanks for responding and for
> > > your help.
>
> > > -Ryan
>
> > > On 12/15/06, Brian Hogan <bpho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > @Ryan:
>
> > > > Contact me directly.. I can point you to some materials I wrote. I
> > > currently
> > > > deploy lots of apps behind IIS using various techniques. None of them
> > > are
> > > > 'built in' but I'm investigating this new method right now.
>
> > > > Anyone else interested can contact me as well - don't want to hijack
> > > this
> > > > thread.
>
> > > > On 12/14/06, ryanp...@gmail.com <ryanp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Is there further discussion on this topic happening in a different
> > > > > forum or a site that is showing status and existing issues with the
> > > RoR
> > > > > on IIS with FastCGI? I've been looking for a solid solution to this
> > > > > problem for a few months as I'm looking at transitioning to RoR but
> > > > > have the limitation of having to use IIS for the webserver. So, if
> > > you
> > > > > guys get this working, it will be much appreciated by me.
>
> > > > > Thanks!
>
> > > > > Ryan
>
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> > @Ryan:<br><br>I am running it behind IIS using mongrel or Apache or *gasp* even Lighttpd on Linux. I'm not entirely sure why you are limited to IIS only... Mongrel runs very nicely as a Windows NT service. That's unfortunate. You'll have to try to convince them otherwise; trust me... it can be done :)
> > <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/15/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ryan Prellwitz</b> <<a href="mailto:ryanp...@gmail.com">ryanp...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> > <br>Thanks Brian. Are you working on RoR using FastCGI or using Mongrel.<br>My environment is (very unfortunately) limited to a strict IIS<br>environment without allowing Mongrel to sit behind IIS, so I'm really<br>interested in the FastCGI alternative. Thanks for responding and for
> > <br>your help.<br><br>-Ryan<br><br>On 12/15/06, Brian Hogan <<a href="mailto:bpho...@gmail.com">bpho...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> @Ryan:<br>><br>> Contact me directly.. I can point you to some materials I wrote. I currently
> > <br>> deploy lots of apps behind IIS using various techniques. None of them are<br>> 'built in' but I'm investigating this new method right now.<br>><br>> Anyone else interested can contact me as well - don't want to hijack this
> > <br>> thread.<br>><br>><br>> On 12/14/06, <a href="mailto:ryanp...@gmail.com">ryanp...@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:ryanp...@gmail.com">ryanp...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Is there further discussion on this topic happening in a different
> > <br>> > forum or a site that is showing status and existing issues with the RoR<br>> > on IIS with FastCGI? I've been looking for a solid solution to this<br>> > problem for a few months as I'm looking at transitioning to RoR but
> > <br>> > have the limitation of having to use IIS for the webserver. So, if you<br>> > guys get this working, it will be much appreciated by me.<br>> ><br>> > Thanks!<br>> ><br>> > Ryan
> > <br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>><br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>
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ryan...@gmail.com
http://wiki.rubygarden.org/Ruby/page/show/UsingRubyFastCGI
Do you need to be using a FastCGI dispatcher like: ?
http://raa.ruby-lang.org/project/ruby-cgi/
This is how RoR/Apache2/FastCGI is done, which may be worth looking at:
http://blog.inlet-media.de/the-perfect-ruby-on-rails-with-apache2-and-fastcgi-setup-on-debian-sarge
Hope this helps...
-Ryan
Peter Boling
Technical Preview 2, has experimental ruby support.
http://mvolo.com/blogs/serverside/archive/2007/01/31/Turbo_2D00_charge-your-PHP-applications-with-IIS-FastCGI-Technical-Preview-2.aspx
(Look near the bottom of the post for the bit about ruby and the
promise for more to come!)
Thanks Mike and IIS team!
Brian Hogan
Mike Volodarsky
"experiment" with it :) So, I finally found some time to document the
steps necessary to get Ruby on Rails running with the FastCGI TP2
release: http://mvolo.com/blogs/serverside/archive/2007/02/18/10-steps-to-get-Ruby-on-Rails-running-on-Windows-with-IIS-FastCGI.aspx.
I would love for you guys to try this out, and let us know of any
issues you find.
Also, thanks go to Brian for helping out with lots of RoR questions I
had while investigating FastCGI support for it ...
Looking forward to your feedback!
Mike
IIS Team
On Jan 31, 7:59 pm, "Brian Hogan" <bpho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shhh! You're not supposed to be telling anyone about that yet.
>
> On 1/31/07, Peter Boling <peter.bol...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Supposedly the newest release of Microsoft's FastCGI, which is now at
> > Technical Preview 2, has experimental ruby support.
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> >http://mvolo.com/blogs/serverside/archive/2007/01/31/Turbo_2D00_charg...
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> > promise for more to come!)
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