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transf...@gmail.com  
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 More options Jun 15 2006, 2:17 pm
From: transf...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:17:19 +0900
Local: Thurs, Jun 15 2006 2:17 pm
Subject: Absolute paths in $"
Any chance Ruby 1.8.5 will have absolute paths in $" instead of
relative ones? I know that's planned for 2.0 but I sure could use it
now.

T.


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Yukihiro Matsumoto  
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 More options Jun 15 2006, 10:42 pm
From: Yukihiro Matsumoto <m...@ruby-lang.org>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:42:18 +0900
Local: Thurs, Jun 15 2006 10:42 pm
Subject: Re: Absolute paths in $"
Hi,

In message "Re: Absolute paths in $""
    on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:17:19 +0900, transf...@gmail.com writes:

|Any chance Ruby 1.8.5 will have absolute paths in $" instead of
|relative ones? I know that's planned for 2.0 but I sure could use it
|now.

I'm afraid it's too big change for 1.8 which is under stable mode.
Any opinion?

                                                        matz.


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Matthew Harris  
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 More options Jun 16 2006, 8:37 am
From: "Matthew Harris" <shugoten...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:37:50 +0900
Local: Fri, Jun 16 2006 8:37 am
Subject: Re: Absolute paths in $"
I'm a firm believer on maintaining stability and allowing code to run
the same in tomorrow's release as it did in yesterday's (simply: 1.8.5
should not function different from 1.8.4 or any prior/future versions
of that stable branch).

With that being said, if any major changes are going to be made, just
stick it in 1.9, yay :)

On 6/16/06, Yukihiro Matsumoto <m...@ruby-lang.org> wrote:

> Hi,

> In message "Re: Absolute paths in $""
>    on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:17:19 +0900, transf...@gmail.com writes:

> |Any chance Ruby 1.8.5 will have absolute paths in $" instead of
> |relative ones? I know that's planned for 2.0 but I sure could use it
> |now.

> I'm afraid it's too big change for 1.8 which is under stable mode.
> Any opinion?

>                                                        matz.

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 More options Jun 16 2006, 9:10 am
From: transf...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:10:52 +0900
Local: Fri, Jun 16 2006 9:10 am
Subject: Re: Absolute paths in $"

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
> Hi,

> In message "Re: Absolute paths in $""
>     on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:17:19 +0900, transf...@gmail.com writes:

> |Any chance Ruby 1.8.5 will have absolute paths in $" instead of
> |relative ones? I know that's planned for 2.0 but I sure could use it
> |now.

> I'm afraid it's too big change for 1.8 which is under stable mode.
> Any opinion?

The change both simplifies code related to it and makes Ruby more
robust for having it. While it is "big" in a sense, I'd be pretty
surprised if any other projects besides mine and RubyGems would be
"adversely" affected. That being the case, maybe it's worth moving up
in the time-line. 2.0 still seems to be a ways off.

In any case, I can work around it if neccessary.

Thanks,
T.


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Yukihiro Matsumoto  
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 More options Jun 16 2006, 9:29 am
From: Yukihiro Matsumoto <m...@ruby-lang.org>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:29:49 +0900
Local: Fri, Jun 16 2006 9:29 am
Subject: Re: Absolute paths in $"
Hi,

In message "Re: Absolute paths in $""
    on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:10:52 +0900, transf...@gmail.com writes:

|> I'm afraid it's too big change for 1.8 which is under stable mode.
|> Any opinion?
|
|The change both simplifies code related to it and makes Ruby more
|robust for having it. While it is "big" in a sense, I'd be pretty
|surprised if any other projects besides mine and RubyGems would be
|"adversely" affected. That being the case, maybe it's worth moving up
|in the time-line. 2.0 still seems to be a ways off.

Compatibility goes beyond anyone's expectation.  I have just got
a report that this exact issue broke someone's code last week.

                                                        matz.


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Mauricio Fernandez  
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 More options Jun 16 2006, 9:31 am
From: Mauricio Fernandez <m...@acm.org>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:31:07 +0900
Local: Fri, Jun 16 2006 9:31 am
Subject: Re: Absolute paths in $"

On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 11:42:18AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
> Hi,

> In message "Re: Absolute paths in $""
>     on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:17:19 +0900, transf...@gmail.com writes:

> |Any chance Ruby 1.8.5 will have absolute paths in $" instead of
> |relative ones? I know that's planned for 2.0 but I sure could use it
> |now.

> I'm afraid it's too big change for 1.8 which is under stable mode.
> Any opinion?

Such a change would be likely to affect RubyGems and applications/libraries
using it, and in particular Rails, which does funny things with $:.

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Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov  
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 More options Jun 16 2006, 10:05 am
From: Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov <list...@julik.nl>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:05:56 +0900
Local: Fri, Jun 16 2006 10:05 am
Subject: Re: Absolute paths in $"

On 16-jun-2006, at 4:42, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

> Hi,

> In message "Re: Absolute paths in $""
>     on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:17:19 +0900, transf...@gmail.com writes:

> |Any chance Ruby 1.8.5 will have absolute paths in $" instead of
> |relative ones? I know that's planned for 2.0 but I sure could use it
> |now.

> I'm afraid it's too big change for 1.8 which is under stable mode.
> Any opinion?

I would welcome it, for one. Right now you have to expand_path  
everything manually and
in Rails it becomes very difficult to follow all the ../../../ properly.
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Eric Hodel  
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 More options Jun 16 2006, 2:11 pm
From: Eric Hodel <drbr...@segment7.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:11:08 +0900
Local: Fri, Jun 16 2006 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Absolute paths in $"
On Jun 16, 2006, at 7:05 AM, Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov wrote:

> On 16-jun-2006, at 4:42, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

>> In message "Re: Absolute paths in $""
>>     on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:17:19 +0900, transf...@gmail.com writes:

>> |Any chance Ruby 1.8.5 will have absolute paths in $" instead of
>> |relative ones? I know that's planned for 2.0 but I sure could use it
>> |now.

>> I'm afraid it's too big change for 1.8 which is under stable mode.
>> Any opinion?

> I would welcome it, for one. Right now you have to expand_path  
> everything manually and in Rails it becomes very difficult to  
> follow all the ../../../ properly.

That sounds more like a Rails bug, it should be expanding paths for you.

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