[ruby-core:36494] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #4786][Open] RCR new Feature: Numeric#grouped

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Roger Pack

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May 26, 2011, 6:22:37 PM5/26/11
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Issue #4786 has been reported by Roger Pack.

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Feature #4786: RCR new Feature: Numeric#grouped
http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/4786

Author: Roger Pack
Status: Open
Priority: Normal
Assignee:
Category:
Target version:


Hello all.

As discussed in http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/1060694#new with apparently no objection, this is a request for an easy way to get comma separated string values from numeric types.

Background:
Currently in ruby you can enter large numbers with digit grouping:
a = 1_000_000_000

however there is no convenient way to convert from a number back to digit grouping

Suggestion:

>> 1_000_000_000.grouped
=> "1,000,000,000"


class Numeric
def separate(sep=",")
self.to_s.reverse.scan(/(?:\d*\.)?\d{1,3}-?/).join(sep).reverse
end
end

Another option would be to support this extended printf syntax:

>> "%'d" % 12345678
=> 12,345,678

Though I'd lean toward the former.

Feedback?
Thanks.
-roger-


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Nobuyoshi Nakada

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May 26, 2011, 7:17:52 PM5/26/11
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Hi,

At Fri, 27 May 2011 07:22:37 +0900,
Roger Pack wrote in [ruby-core:36494]:


> Background:
> Currently in ruby you can enter large numbers with digit grouping:
> a = 1_000_000_000
>
> however there is no convenient way to convert from a number back to digit grouping
>
> Suggestion:
>
> >> 1_000_000_000.grouped
> => "1,000,000,000"

If you use round-tripping as the base, the separater should be
"_" by default.

> class Numeric
> def separate(sep=",")

> self.e
> end
> end

It makes 12323.separate("xy") "12yx323", which does not seem
nice.

And not all locales use 3-digits separation.

def separate(n, sep="_")
to_s.gsub(/\G(?<!\d)(?<=\d{#{n}})(?=\d)|(?<=\d)(?=\d{#{n}}+\b)/, sep)
end

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Shyouhei Urabe

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May 26, 2011, 7:46:31 PM5/26/11
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Issue #4786 has been updated by Shyouhei Urabe.


-1.

As nobu said numbering system depends on locales. So far ruby has been strictly avoiding locale-dependent features. It is too careless to introduce such feature.

Nobuyoshi Nakada

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May 26, 2011, 7:48:38 PM5/26/11
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Hi,

At Fri, 27 May 2011 08:17:52 +0900,
Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote in [ruby-core:36495]:


> And not all locales use 3-digits separation.

According to
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system>, it's
more complicated than I've thought.

Therefore I'm against it now.

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Shyouhei Urabe

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May 26, 2011, 7:50:42 PM5/26/11
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Issue #4786 has been updated by Shyouhei Urabe.


P.S. POSIX does specify printf("%'d"), but this does not define _how_ the numbers are grouped, because of course, by theory they cannot.

Yui NARUSE

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May 27, 2011, 3:22:45 AM5/27/11
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Issue #4786 has been updated by Yui NARUSE.


Ruby doesn't include Locale depended features on current policy.
So it should be done by ICU or ActiveSupport or something.

mame (Yusuke Endoh)

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Issue #4786 has been updated by mame (Yusuke Endoh).

Status changed from Open to Assigned
Assignee set to mame (Yusuke Endoh)


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Feature #4786: RCR new Feature: Numeric#grouped

https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/4786#change-25127

Author: rogerdpack (Roger Pack)
Status: Assigned
Priority: Normal
Assignee: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
Category:
Target version:


Hello all.

As discussed in http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/1060694#new with apparently no objection, this is a request for an easy way to get comma separated string values from numeric types.

Background:
Currently in ruby you can enter large numbers with digit grouping:
a = 1_000_000_000

however there is no convenient way to convert from a number back to digit grouping

Suggestion:

>> 1_000_000_000.grouped
=> "1,000,000,000"


class Numeric
def separate(sep=",")
self.to_s.reverse.scan(/(?:\d*\.)?\d{1,3}-?/).join(sep).reverse
end
end

Another option would be to support this extended printf syntax:

>> "%'d" % 12345678
=> 12,345,678

Though I'd lean toward the former.

Feedback?
Thanks.
-roger-


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duerst (Martin Dürst)

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Issue #4786 has been updated by duerst (Martin Dürst).

Status changed from Assigned to Rejected

naruse (Yui NARUSE) wrote:
> Ruby doesn't include Locale depended features on current policy.
> So it should be done by ICU or ActiveSupport or something.

We have looked at this issue today at our Ruby developer meeting in Akihabara, and we agree with Yui. We have therefore rejected this issue.

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Feature #4786: RCR new Feature: Numeric#grouped

https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/4786#change-25129

Author: rogerdpack (Roger Pack)
Status: Rejected


Priority: Normal
Assignee: mame (Yusuke Endoh)

Category:
Target version:


Hello all.

As discussed in http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/1060694#new with apparently no objection, this is a request for an easy way to get comma separated string values from numeric types.

Background:
Currently in ruby you can enter large numbers with digit grouping:
a = 1_000_000_000

however there is no convenient way to convert from a number back to digit grouping

Suggestion:

>> 1_000_000_000.grouped
=> "1,000,000,000"


class Numeric
def separate(sep=",")
self.to_s.reverse.scan(/(?:\d*\.)?\d{1,3}-?/).join(sep).reverse
end
end

Another option would be to support this extended printf syntax:

>> "%'d" % 12345678
=> 12,345,678

Though I'd lean toward the former.

Feedback?
Thanks.
-roger-


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Roger Pack

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Jan 15, 2013, 3:48:57 PM1/15/13
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On 5/26/11, Shyouhei Urabe <shyo...@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
>
> Issue #4786 has been updated by Shyouhei Urabe.
>
>
> -1.
>
> As nobu said numbering system depends on locales. So far ruby has been
> strictly avoiding locale-dependent features. It is too careless to
> introduce such feature.

I'd be down with some local independent implementation, like java's
new DecimalFormat( "#,###,###,##0.00" );
basically.
Cheers!
roger

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