2010 RIT Strongman/woman Competition
Tiny
that we start getting our shit together for the strongman this year.
We're at the point were we need to decide what the events and weight
classes should be. In addition we need to start sending out
letterheads to outside companies for sponsorship. I'm sure that RIT
has a lot of red tape for this sort of thing, so I'll take care of
this part. What I need from everyone is help coming to a consensus
about the events as well as getting everything together. James and I
briefly talked about what we want to do this for it. He also said he's
going to do it this year if you can believe that.
Possible List of Events in no discernible order.
1.) Truck Pull (crowd pleaser)
2.) Zercher Yoke walk
3.) Atlas Stone series or Atlas stone for reps or Atlas stone for Max
height
4.) Overhead press Medley
5.) Some type of relay maybe, don't really know. Ideas/input needed
I think everyone will agree with the truck pull being in there. Chris,
Jeff and I did the zercher yoke walk for conditioning one day during
the summer, and we thought it was pretty terrible. So, we thought it'd
be appropriate for the strongman.
Having Atlas stones int the comp is going to require quite a bit of
work on our part depending on which event we go with. If we choose a
series, we'd have to make 7 stones or more to cover all the classes.
If we were to do the same weight classes as last year, 7 stones of
varying weight (between 135 and 240 lbs), it would make it possible to
have 5 stones for LW/HW mens. Two lighter stones would be replaced
with heavier ones for the HW class. The girl's series would have to be
a mixture of Atlas stones and other implements. If we were to do
either the Atlas stone for reps or for max height, we'd only have to
make 4 stones max (one for each class). As far as work goes, it'd be
much easier making 4 stones as opposed to 7, obviously. Regardless
though, we'll need to purchase a couple molds and a bunch of concrete.
We'd need a 16in and 18in mold. From APT, that would run us around
$200 for both. James said we could make them at his place, but there's
a bigger obstacle than making them: storage. We're going to need to
find a place to store these things once they're made, preferably
before they're made. I'm fresh out of ideas for this one, maybe you
guys will have some good ones.
As far as the OH medley goes, I think we have enough implements to do
it. Bob's log bar, kegs, bob's yoke, and barbells. Mike Severskey has
told me that he's made another log bar that weighs over 100lbs on its
own, so we'd be able to use that too. I wouldn't mind buying an
Olympic dumbbell either.
Let me hear some feedback and ideas on this so we can get it rolling.
Bob Stevens
Do that stuff first if its not done already.
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(yoke, log, axle, keg, db, bb) I'll submit my circus DB if I can be
guaranteed it's at the end of the medley (don't want people trying it
that have no chance and might fuck it up).
It's a standard size circus db (huge), 2.25"handle, except that it can
be adjusted to 25lbs, meaning something like 120 for LW , 135 for MW,
and 145 for HW, so on and so forth. It's sand loaded so if someone
wanted to measure out sand and add it between classes it could be
adjusted even further. And it's a fucking blast to play with.
I've also got an adjustable DB loadable to 195lbs but I'm hesitant to
use that since it's plate loaded.
If you allow tacky on the atlas stones, they have to be the last
event.
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> You need a date more than anything. Someone has to become EVR certified and
> then register the event. If you want it during ImagineRIT then you have to
> register it there as well, and let me know so I can send you the email of
> the head guy so it goes smoothly.
>
> Do that stuff first if its not done already.
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Tiny
year, so I think we should try to do it during the festival again.
What's the head guy's e-mail?
Steve, the circus db would be great, but there'll only be 2 weight
classes like last year, LW(<200) and HW(>200). I'd like to use it, but
I'd also like to not make the competition impossible. It should just
as heavy, if not a little heavier than last year. Tacky use is fine
with me, but you'd probably be able to get by without it.
Fluff
gunna be the one draining and adding sand to the damn thing. I think
it's 40 empty so you can go as low as 40 and as high as 300+. It's
easier to press than a regular DB since it sits on your trap and you
can get a lot of leg drive into it, so I'd say an easily doable weight
for a LW would be at least 100-110 with a 2 handed clean. You'll get
to play with it when you come down for the Barn, it's the same one
they are using in the contest, make you're decision on weights
afterwards.
I think a great OH medley would be something like: axle, log, yoke,
keg, circus DB, going in order of awkwardness to press. It's also
easy to make a block to press with but you'd have to make one for each
weight class.
As for the stones, a series up to 240 is easily doable without tacky
(especially 16" stones), but if it's allowed, you want it to be the
last event, otherwise that shit will get over everything and you'll
have to break for long enough before the next event to let people get
the tacky off. I say go no-tack.
Lelli
and it was an utter disappointment and kinda boring to watch.
Tiny
weighs 270, but the weight's not the issue. The grip is now terrible
because too much dirt got all over it and the weight is not balanced.
As we were filling it up, we realized how heavy the fucker was going
to be, so I stuffed some foam pieces into it. I tried getting them
into the center, but the concrete had all ready begun to set, so that
wasn't happening. So, since it's not balanced, it makes it much more
difficult to hang onto. Considering that the thing was made in a UC
bathroom, I'd say it turned out pretty good, but I plan on making all
new stones.
James
up we can focus more on event planning.
Jeffrey Salvagin (RIT Student)
Time said its May 1st so i say that is set.
As for the last stone it wasn't that heavy i think it came out at
270lbs. Like tim said it's just awkward but its not impossible by any
means.
I hate to volunteer myself for anything but i'm pretty good with fiber
glass so i can probably make a more permanent mold we could use to
make a bunch of stones.
Louie P
just let me know
On Dec 14, 10:18 pm, "Jeffrey Salvagin (RIT Student)"
James
Tiny
excited that we want to do it again this year. So, if all goes well
once I talk to him in person, we can assume that the date will be May
1st. Start thinkin.
Joseph Correa
Frey
1) Truck Pull (i agree, crowd pleaser)
2) Zercher Yoke Walk (like the sound of it cuz its new, something we
havent done before, and i know its a real killer)
3) Atlas Stone (sounds sweet, ive always wanted to train with a legit
stone, i vote for each weight class does reps over the yoke, or some
similar cross beam)
4) Overhead Medley (i also like this one cuz its new, i vote for what
Steve recommended; axle, log, yoke, keg, circus DB; especially cuz we
already have all these implements... one less thing to worry about)
5) Relay (id like to do something similar to last year, possible
farmers walk to keg carry to tire flip... or maybe just two legs of
the relay since this might not be the last event; but nevertheless
farmers and definitely tire flips need to be in the relay)
as for weight classes; lets not fuck around and keep it simple like
last year, Mens lightweight (<200#), Mens Heavyweight (>200#), and a
single womens weight class
James
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Tiny
register events (me and you). Don't register the event yet, I still
have to talk to the head guy at imagine RIT (Andrew Q.). I have a
meeting with him tomorrow. So we should be able to get things under
way soon.
James
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shirt off.
Tim: "What do you mean we can't get into the Swedish Meatball Eating
Contest?"
SMEC Official: "I'm sorry sir, it's full."
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on. The weights weren't discussed but I've put down what I think they
should be.
Event 1: Overhead Medley
Competitor must press each implement over their head, in order of
increasing weight. Time limit: 90s.
Women: Log Bar - 65 lbs, Thick Bar - 75 lbs, Olympic Barbell - 85 lbs,
Olympic Dumbbell - 50 lbs
Men 200 and under: Yoke - 155 lbs, Log Bar - 175 lbs, Thick Bar - 185
lbs, Olympic Barbell - 195 lbs, Olympic Dumbbell - 100 lbs
Men 201 and over: Yoke - 175 lbs, Log Bar - 195 lbs, Thick Bar - 205
lbs, Olympic Barbell - 215 lbs, Olympic Dumbbell - 120 lbs
Event 2: Tire Flip
The competitor will have his/her choice of one of three tires, light,
medium, and heavy. Each tire is assigned a specific point value
depending on its weight. Each flip completed adds that point value to
the competitors score. Light - 1 point, Medium - 3 points, Heavy - 6
points. Time Limit: 60s.
Women: Light - ~150 lbs, Med - TBD, Heavy - ~400 lbs
Men 200 and under: Light - ~400 lbs, Med - ~550 lbs, Heavy - ~700 lbs
Men 201 and over: Light - ~550 lbs, Med - ~700 lbs, Heavy - ~TBD
Event 3: Truck Pull
Competitor will pull a truck 100 ft for shortest time or greatest
distance. Rope assist is optional but recommended. Time limit: 60s.
Women: ~3000 lbs (small truck)
Men 200 and under: ~6000 lbs (medium truck)
Men 201 and over; ~9000 lbs (Small truck + medium truck linked
together in series)
Event 4: Atlas Stone Load for Reps
Competitor will load an atlas stone over a bar at a fixed height as
many times as possible in the allotted time. No tacky allowed. Time
limit: 60s
Women: Loading height - 40in, 14" Stone - 95 lbs
Men 200 and under: Loading height - 54in, 16" Stone - 195 lbs
Men 201 and over; Loading height - 54in, 18" Stone - 220 lbs
Event 5: Relay
Competitor must complete 3 events in succession: Zercher Chain Yoke
Walk, Farmers Walk and Keg Carry. He/she will pick up the yoke with
his/her forearms, walk 50 ft, drop the yoke, pick up the farmer's
handles, walk back 50 ft, drop the handles, pick up the Keg and walk
50 ft again. Time Limit: 90s.
Women: Yoke - 100 lbs, Farmers - 75 lbs per hand, Keg - 70 lbs
Men 200 and under: Yoke - 200 lbs, Farmers - 185 lbs per hand, Keg -
180 lbs
Men 201 and over: Yoke - 250 lbs, Farmers - 205 lbs per hand, Keg -
180 lbs
These weights are in no way final. I am open to suggestions. We will
need to find a couple more tires and get the old ones back from FMS.
I've decided to buy the stone molds from slater's hardware. They're a
little more pricey than the APT ones, but they look very nice and well
worth the price. Total cost for the stones is going to be around $400
including the inserts and concrete. We also need to buy the olympic
dumbbell which is another $60. Bob, I also have to get you your money
before any of this. Let me know what you guys think.
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That all looks really good. Events should be fun and please the
crowd.
The only thing I might suggest changing are the weights for oh medley,
specifically the women. If I remember last year some had difficulty
with the log and I don't think there was any weight added (so ~50
lbs). Maybe lower it a little...but maybe more girls will compete.
What does everyone else think?
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hard for them.
Dan Higgins
> Is this really even an issue, I mean honestly how many girls are we
> expecting?
For the sake of completing the event, yea it could be necessary. Not
a big deal right now though.
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competition which would be 4/24. These are the numbers I had in the
beginning, but i thought they'd be too light: Log Bar - 50 lbs, Thick
Bar - 65 lbs, BB - 75 lbs, DB - 40 lbs. Just so you guys no though,
each implement only has to be pressed once. But If you guys just want
to wait and make them TBD, that's fine. The only thing I wasn't sure
of was the weight of Jame's and Chris' truck. If you guys are good
with the rest of the numbers, I'll send them to Andrew and get the
ball rolling. Also, Bob, you didn't sign the W9 form. I need that
signed so SG can process your reimbursement.
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> considering most women can't even bench that. It comes down to the same
> issue we had last year. Is it better that people get 1-2 reps or 8-10 reps?
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> Why don't we just leave the women's weight TBD until we have an actual
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overhead work up there.... crap... I also agree that the women's
overhead weights are too heavy.
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worry about what the ladies are pressing. ;)
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did the first year were we had to last minute drop the woman's weights
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brother's finance intends to compete again this year, and my friend
Marissa not only wants to compete but also wants to train with us on
Saturdays, so we def have women competitors.
But either way, i think the over head weights are a little high for
everyone, and i thought Steve said he had a circus dumb bell for us to
use?
A couple more point:
Id also like further clarification on which tires we're talking about
exactly, just so im not confusing things cuz i cant remember the
approximate weights of the tires anymore.
Please make the stones fast, i want to play with them soon!!
And ive never done a zercher carry before, id like to try that out and
see what its like, do we have that made yet??
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schedule and lack of training time.
Steve does have a circus DB. Tim and I are gonna pick it up when we go
down there at the end of this month for Lil' Timmy's Strongman.
Tim is going to be buying the molds soon, then we're going to make
them up asap. (all this you'd know IF YOU CAME TO THE MEETING, JERK!)
A zercher walk is set up like this:
Hold an Olympic BB in the crease of your arms btw forearm and upper
arm.
Chains hanging off each side a few inches above the ground with plates
sitting on them.
Picture walking with the bar in your arms like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naaZ97qljdM
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30528640&l=e8eb4cf05c&id=24415665
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Bri Campi said she'd do it too. The circus dumbbell is kinda up in the
air. If Steve won't mind us using it, that'd be great. However, since
we'd have to fill the thing w/ sand when we want the weight changed, I
think it might be an inconvenience. I'll think about it.
Frey: The tires I'm talking about are the three ones that we currently
have and the three that are in the bone yard. Most of the weights are
estimates. The 700 lb tire is Big Bertha. Nick's the only person
that's flipped that one. He did it last year I think and he says it's
heavier than 550 lb one we have now. I'd like to use J-Lo, but I'm
guessing no one's going to be able to do that one. I might be able to
get it, haven't tried in a couple years. Either way though, we need to
get those tires back from FMS. Since you mentioned it, why don't you
go talk to 'em? We have to wait until the weather gets a little nicer
to make the stones, unless someone has a heated garage. The zercher
walk will be exactly as it looks in Jame's picture. You'll probably
have the same look on your face when you do it too. Jeff made a chain
yoke a while ago, it's sitting under our couch. I don't plan on
bringing it to the gym. If you want to practice, grab the thick bar
and walk around with it in your arms or do zercher squats with it.
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directly heated. We have space heaters, but how long do the molds
have to sit in the heat?
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think the stones are an essential part of the competition and a great
investment. If it were one or the other, I'd choose the stones.
However, if it were both...I might just make a mess in my pants. I
saw a poster the other day advertising that "match your club
contributions" thing. I'm not sure how it all works, but in my head I
picture club dues and strongman entrance fees lumped together as a
club donation which then magically multiplies making us rich beyond
our wildest dreams.
Jeffrey Salvagin (RIT Student)
can evaporate instead of freeze.
I believe what really dictates the drying time is the humidity and how
thick the concrete is.
Because the stones are going to be atleast 16 inches in diameter I
imagine it will take several days for the stones to cure.
I'm sure you can look up somewhere the required drying time for an 8"
thick slab in different conditions.
Tiny
minimum time that it'll take to cure is three days I think, but that's
pushing it. They should cure for at least a week, but three weeks
would be even better. The temperature doesn't need to be sweltering.
Room temp should be fine. I'm gonna buy 14", 16" and 18" molds. Like I
said before, for the molds, inserts and concrete, we're lookin at
around $400, maybe less, because I might be able to get the molds off-
price. We'll also need to get a back massager and silicon spray was
well. I've heard those are both great ways to make the stone smooth.
Getting farmers handles too might be possible. I have to check club
funds before I do anything. I'll have a better idea on Monday.
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club dues again for the winter quarter. That would definitely help.
Fluff
I'm actually planning on having some farmers bars made for me in
March. They were going to be heavy, about 180lbs empty each from what
the guy said, and would load from the top so there was no need for
collars and they allowed fast loading and deloading. The guy making
them is a metal worker and I'm sure he'd give you a good price if
you're interested.
I feel like a 14" stone mold is almost unneeded. A 16" with foam
insert would probably be easier for most women to lift, since a 14
will probably just roll every which way. I say this because I have
never seen anyone use the 14", women included. All the women I've
seen use 16 or 18" stones weighing from 100-200lbs.
For curing, I've heard a minimum of 2 days before sealing and a week
before use. More is obviously better, but I wouldn't worry too much.
As for the DB, if you mean oly db as in one of the ones in the gym
you're retarded, because I guarantee it'll break and those things cost
a fucking fortune. If you mean the pipe that is under the desk in the
FC that was left over from the thick bar, then make sure to use rubber
sleeves with pipe clamps for collars to make sure weight doesn't fly
off, I'll show Tim what I mean when he comes down. If you want the
circus DB, then by all means it's yours for the contest. It's easier
to press than a regular DB, so I'd say 100 would be a good weight for
LWs and then you could easily get it up to 140 by loading the handle
(no sand needed, 3 minutes to do). Again, I'll show Tim what I mean
when he comes down.
James
behoove us a group to front some money, as much as each person can,
and then Tim will save the receipts and we can maybe get reimbursed,
but hell, 20 bucks isn't that much to ask for when in return you're
getting 'effin atlas stones!
Minimum set time would be one week. For structural integrity we
should NOT use quick set, quick set tends to sacrifice strength for
the whole quick set thing. The web site recommends a three week
optimum set time in mold. As for the back massage things, I don't
think that will be powerful enough. The whole idea is to vibrate the
concrete to get air bubbles to rise to the top and get out of the mix
= stronger stone, and smoother, more even spread of aggregate. I will
make some calls/e-mails and see if I can borrow us an actual concrete
vibrator, if that doesn't pan out, I know that both Brian and I have
those E.T. looking back massage things and maybe two combined would
work.... or we can run over to show world and get some other tools....
Dan Higgins
bought a ton of shit for the club so its only fair.
as for making them, id be willing to use my garage, but depending on
how big they are and how long they are there for, i don't want to be
the dick roomate that takes up space. also depending on the weather,
the garage does get pretty cold as its not heated. if we make them in
one place can they be transported, or no?
James
but it doesn't freeze, I'd of course have to pass that by Dad... and
we would have to get the finished stones up the stairs
I think a good idea would be to have a comprehensive list of all the
material we need. Then like a pot luck party, everyone either buys a
component (like a bag of concrete), and we check it off the list , or
simply gives $20 or whatever they can.
So lets see-
Stone Molds- (1) 18" mold- $109, (1) 16" mold- $99, (1) 14" mold- $75
*we can't make the 16" light enough
Inserts- (2) 8" foam insert- $19.95 each, (1) 25 pound lead insert-
$45
Concrete mix- I'm not sure how much we'd need or the price per bag
Large Garbage Cans- (3), shouldn't be much at a hardware store
Sand- to fill garbage cans and support the molds (so they don't
explode under the pressure and weight of the liquid concrete)
Concrete Sealer- don't know how much
Wheel barrow or some other large tub to mix concrete
Some sort of Vibration Device to vibrate air out of concrete and
evenly distribute aggregate- borrow, or use back massager
Water- Free
James
stones... Why are we getting three molds? We can make the 18" stone
200 pounds and 220 pounds. Do you really think that 5 pounds (195 @
16") will be that big of a difference? I vote Just get the 14" and
the 18" and save $100.
Bob Stevens
Just cause we have money doesn't mean we have to spend, and if were gonna buy stuff, lets buy stuff that will get used considerably more.
James
With just one 18" mold, we can make two stones for this year, then
over the summer I can make the whole 18" stone set. (200, 220, 230,
260, 280)
On Jan 17, 6:35 pm, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why are we getting a 14" anyway? Seems useless beyond this one event since
> we have* **0* women on the team. Get a 18" mold make the two stones for
> men's classes and have the womens class use a big freaking rock.
>
> Just cause we have money doesn't mean we have to spend, and if were gonna
> buy stuff, lets buy stuff that will get used considerably more.
>
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James
Fluff
sacrificing integrity. If you guys are willing to wait till Sunday, I
can find out for sure.
Another option, again since there aren't women on the team, would be
to make the women load a sand bag over a bar for reps. This would be
easier on their skin, and frankly, most women don't have the same
attraction to concrete we have. There's no problem with making a
womens event different than the mens event, contests do it all the
time. Since you're never going to get a return on investment on the
14" stone, I think it's a really poor investment.
Tiny
16" to ~100 lbs. We could do a natural stone instead if we can't make
that work.
Tiny
make a 16" stone weigh about 100 lbs, there are a couple options. One
option is to use a 12" foam insert. The other option is to use a 10"
foam insert and mix in a bunch of vermiculite to the concrete mix.
Vermiculite lightens the concrete mix but make it much weaker. Either
case, the structural integrity of the stone is sacrificed. He did tell
me however that they sell 15 1/2" molds for the same price which weigh
about 150 lbs with just concrete. If we use that with the 10" insert
along with some strengthening fibers, we should be good. With the 10"
insert, the stone would weigh around 110 lbs.
Tiny
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these things!
On Jan 19, 2:03 pm, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I still vote with the don't bother on the small stone. I just don't see it
> being a good purchase right now. If we had female members who trained it
> would be something to consider, but we don't.
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the long run. In the future, if any of use wanted/needed to practice
shouldering, a small, light stone would be good to practice with. And
since we have some members that are as strong as girls, it would be a
good idea to have some lighter stones to practice with. I plan on
buying the 15 1/2" and 18" molds. Bob, if you really don't want me to
get the smaller one, then I won't, but personally I think we'll be
able use it. James, once everything is decided, I'll start writing up
the paper work. I'll probably be able to order them next week.
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than that. I think we should for sure get the 16", the 16" and the
range of weights we can make I feel fits the clubs needs at this
moment. Also, i think adding in the fibers to all the stones is a
good idea for longevity, and at only $4.50 a bag, it's peanuts, well
worth it.
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tomorrow.
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James
in and I'll start gathering tools and what not. Does anyone have a
few extra car tires around? We can use those instead of buckets full
of sand to cradle the mold.
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Lelli
Also, can we paint our balls?
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Jeffrey Salvagin (RIT Student)
A 1" marble stone wouldn't be very heavy ;)
Bob Stevens
A 1" marble stone wouldn't be very heavy ;)
Dan Higgins
some input.
On Jan 21, 10:41 am, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we should revisit a topic from 2 years ago.....
>
> Pie eating contest followed by tire flip.
>
> Ya/Nay?
>
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> > A 1" marble stone wouldn't be very heavy ;)
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Fluff
you can't do a "natural" stone over bar for reps, on account of that
would be stupidly dangerous. There is no way of predicting which way
a natural stone is going to bounce when dropped, plus it's more likely
to cut forearms.
I'd like to reassert my suggestion for a sandbag load for the women.
It can be a loose duffle bag type load, or you can fill a pillow case
partially with sand to the desired weight, and then wrap it in duct
tape until it becomes mostly firm.
Alternatively, a light keg over bar would be doable as well, although
again you have to worry about how it's going to come down.
James
http://www.slatershardware.com/strengthdownloads/Stone_Step_3.MPG
That's what we need to do, I think it'll be easier once we have the
mold to test out.
On Jan 21, 8:49 am, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is a pile of old car tires near my house (not that I really want to go
> touching them...), but what size would you need? I'm thinking 18" won't be
> in there, but you never know.
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Tiny
everything else we'll need besides duct tape, concrete, sand and a
tire. I think we'll get them Friday or early next week. Frey was
asking about the tires before, I asked him to go talk to him, but that
probably won't happen. I'll see if I can find some time to go down
there and talk to 'em.
On Jan 22, 11:49 am, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh ok got it, I'll look and see what I can find.
>
> Has anyone contacted FMS about our old tires yet? I see that they are still
> piled up in the boneyard. We should get them out and pick the best 3 to
> evaluate for the strongman.
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before I call him so I can say -"We want them at X location, by X
date" I'm assuming we want them yesterday and where our other tires
are, but I'd like to double check.
As soon as the mold and materials are in, we need to set a weekend
date to make the stones, well rather, make one, then make the other
the following weekend. Basically, I really want to help make them.
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you mean behind the field house we'll have to clear that with Field
House people where as right now we' cleared to use the tires in U-lot.
On Jan 26, 4:56 pm, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We should try and get the tires moved to where we train at.
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Tiny
look at them. I believe that I've all ready asked Bucky and Lou if we
could move them behind the field house. If I remember correctly, they
gave me two reasons. Their placement might interfere with snow plows
during the winter and they're an eyesore. The reason I moved them in
the rear of U-Lot was because it was a place no one would look. FMS
didn't even know they were there until I told 'em. It wouldn't hurt to
ask Lou and Bucky again, but even if they say it's ok, we'll have to
clear it w/ FMS. I talked to Fernare about the old tires last year. He
said he'd move 'em back, but that never got done. James, have you made
any headway with finding sponsors?
On Jan 26, 8:00 pm, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ideally I was hoping for behind the field house. It would be super
> convenient and can't hurt to ask. I know they don't look pretty (to
> some....) but its not like thats a heavy traffic area anyway. We wouldn't
> need all 6 but 2-3 would be nice.
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I wouldn't mind gong around asking some of the local companies.
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James
As for sponsors, I have 10 or so letters printed out, I haven't mailed
them to any companies as Jared advised they'd most likely just get
tossed that way. He suggested going in person. Now what I was
thinking Is I can give a few letters to several different willing
individuals, divide and conquer. An idea I had would be to have
someone who frequents said business go to that business, such as
Lori's Natural Foods, or when I go get more Tattoo work done in
February I plan on asking them. I think it might be a good idea to
have a quick meeting about it soon.
Louie, basically the only requirements are that A) they are swilling
to give us some cash or product for prizes (gift certificates for
example) and B) They are not a sponsor of the Imagine Fest, so
Wegman's and Palmer's are out. As i siad I have a whole fancy pants
letter written up with different sponsorship options, etc.
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Lelli
temporarily for training purposes and we'll move them back where ever
after the meet. A few weeks of having them nearby would be great.
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chris
can keep them there and that way at least they're out of the boneyard
and available to use again. once we have them back then we can see
about moving 1 or 2 to behind the field house. it's better to have
them and be able to use them in a less-than-ideal location than for
them to continue to be unavailable for any use at all.
Nicholas Battista
Bob Stevens
James
he didn't even give me guff. however, it is kinda dependant on how
full U-lot is to get a truck in there. But we'll get em there.
On Jan 27, 2:06 pm, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought that was what we were talking about in the first place....?
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Nicholas Battista <nab4...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > the oracle has spoken.
>
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:34 PM, chris <christopherplawre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> i would suggest moving the tires to U-lot for right now. we know we
> >> can keep them there and that way at least they're out of the boneyard
> >> and available to use again. once we have them back then we can see
> >> about moving 1 or 2 to behind the field house. it's better to have
> >> them and be able to use them in a less-than-ideal location than for
> >> them to continue to be unavailable for any use at all.
>
> >> On Jan 26, 4:42 pm, James <jamescdickin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I'll call Furnare about the tires. Just let me know what we want
> >> > before I call him so I can say -"We want them at X location, by X
> >> > date" I'm assuming we want them yesterday and where our other tires
> >> > are, but I'd like to double check.
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today. I'd like tom start making them after the quarter's over.
On Jan 27, 9:16 pm, James <jamescdickin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I talked to Furnare this Morning, he said he will get them moved asap,
> he didn't even give me guff. however, it is kinda dependant on how
> full U-lot is to get a truck in there. But we'll get em there.
>
> On Jan 27, 2:06 pm, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I thought that was what we were talking about in the first place....?
>
> > On Wed, Jan 27,2010at 12:38 PM, Nicholas Battista <nab4...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > the oracle has spoken.
>
> > > On Wed, Jan 27,2010at 12:34 PM, chris <christopherplawre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > >> i would suggest moving the tires to U-lot for right now. we know we
> > >> can keep them there and that way at least they're out of the boneyard
> > >> and available to use again. once we have them back then we can see
> > >> about moving 1 or 2 to behind the field house. it's better to have
> > >> them and be able to use them in a less-than-ideal location than for
> > >> them to continue to be unavailable for any use at all.
>
> > >> On Jan 26, 4:42 pm, James <jamescdickin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > I'll call Furnare about the tires. Just let me know what we want
> > >> > before I call him so I can say -"We want them at X location, by X
> > >> > date" I'm assuming we want them yesterday and where our other tires
> > >> > are, but I'd like to double check.
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Feb 20th (a Saturday) is out for a tattoo appointment. Feb 25-28
Myself, Shawn, Brian, and Chris will be in Chicago. Other than those
dates I will be free to make the stones.
Bob
overhead in order of weight. I want to request that we change this to
any order you want. This will allow people to get what they can, and
won't negatively affect anyone who is already capable of pressing all
implements. The weights are aggressive enough (for our target
competitors) no need to limit the order.
Also, we need to get the truck pull set up, I have a feeling its not
going to be hard enough. Thinking back, the uhaul wasn't that hard,
and chris/jeff or whoever's truck isn't hard at all. Also, do we have
some kind of solid link for the two trucks, because using a rope isn't
going to cut it.
Dan, does ROTC have any big fucking trucks we could maybe borrow?
James
Maybe a hummer from ROTC... or one of the RIT ambulances, or Chris' or
Jeff's truck full of people?
Dan Higgins
ROTC doesn't have shit.
Dan Higgins
Sereni
just use chains to connect them with a tire between them so they don't
damage each other when they bump?
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most unsafe implement.. If you make it the last implement, then you
won't get a lot of goobers attempting it and dropping it on them or
behind them (potential shoulder injury). Anyone that presses all the
other implements deserves a try at it, imo.
This is the reason why at Tim's meet, you could press the first 5
implements in any order, but the block had to be done last. The block
was deemed the most dangerous implement, so to eliminate pointless and
potentially dangerous attempts, it was mandated to be the last
implement.
Useless History: the rule that says an implement has to be pressed/
loaded/moved in order of weight is known as the Kazmaier rule, after
Bill Kazmaier realized it was easier to load the heavier stones in a
series first (not that it mattered to him)
On Feb 8, 9:49 am, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My concern is not really them hitting (which is a possibility) but that
> there will be an uneven tension if one truck rolls easier than the other. 1
> big ass truck would be much better, and more impressive looking.
>
> RIT has dump trucks and payloaders, maybe we could use one of those....
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Sereni <glicho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I definitely agree with any order on OHP. For the two trucks could we
> > just use chains to connect them with a tire between them so they don't
> > damage each other when they bump?
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dragging sled to it with a couple hundred pounds.
if you do it this way, you'll probably want to decide winner by
distance rather than time.
On Feb 8, 9:49 am, Bob Stevens <esco67...@gmail.com> wrote: