Rise and Fall of Al Bielek Google Group

Support by Barbara Hartwell - and please support her !

gsch...@libero.it (Golf Sierra) — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:04:30 UT

Babs Hartwell has made up her mind about infamous Bielek-promoter Ken
Adachi - and she knows what she is talking about. Read her blog at

[link]

Best regards,

Golf Sierra

PS: Please excuse the Spam that was posted here lately - I cleaned up

Re: Shooting down UFOs

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:24:52 UT

Thank you for that highly detailed explanation GS, you are 100 percent correct.

Regards,

Re: Shooting down UFOs

gsch...@libero.it (GolfSierra) — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:02:01 UT

What is an UFO ?
The term UFO was coined by military circles probably after World War
II. The original meaning is
Unidentified Flying Object, which from the original military point of
view means a flying object that has been spotted or detected by
optical means or radar.
It doesn't say a thing whether this object is of a natural kind or

Re: Shooting down UFOs

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:50:57 UT

IF we did in fact shoot down a UFO, the occupants of that craft and their brethren would probably view such a shoot down
as we would view an ant biting our ankle as we explored a neighborhood ant hill.

What might appear to be a 'big event' to us is irrelevant and insignificant to them.

But if we dig deep enough, I'm sure we'll find Al Bielek flying one of those UFOs, bet on it.

Re: Shooting down UFOs

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Betsy Sinkey) — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:43:22 UT

VU.......thank you for that comment. Add to that the fact that if a superior race were visiting us, would they be stupid enough to get into a position where they are vulnerable to being shot down? Wouldn't such a superior technology have counter-offensive capability? Further, wouldn't shooting one down be reason for them to retaliate in some way or certainly take measures to insure that it doesn't happen again?

Re: Shooting down UFOs

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:27:14 UT

Nothing personal Betsy, but that is a bunch o' crap.

The reason that orders would be given to shoot down UFOs would be based upon the fact that they are:

a.) unidentified

b.) flying objects

c.) flying objects violating United States airspace without identifying themselves (see "a").

Regards,

Shooting down UFOs

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Betsy Sinkey) — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:18:56 UT

From Whitley Strieber.....do we really shoot down UFOs?
Today I saw in Unknowncountry's Out There section a
witness
report that suggests that on July 10, the military shot at
UFOs that appeared over Fort Lewis, Washington.
That the US military has done so in the past is now a matter
of public record, since the British Ministry of Defence

Re: Discovery - Message about time travel

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Betsy Sinkey) — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:18:40 UT

Wow.....this is very impressive. Thanks for passing it along. Bravo Marshall Barnes!
Betsy
To: "Rise and Fall of Al Bielek" <Rise-and-Fall-of-Al-Bielek@go oglegroups.com>
Have his book "Hyperspace" on my bookshelf. And I agree with you, that
time traveling did not occur at the PX, despite Al Bielek and some

Re: Orgone energy

gsch...@libero.it (GolfSierra) — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:17:07 UT

Hi Betsy,

as far as I can recall,
we came across Reich because of the claims of Preston Nichols. I think
he mentioned that the Montauk Chair received some sort of bio-energy
from the individual sitting on it, which may have had it's roots in
Reich's Orgone:

"He observed that the [b]orgone energy charge in the human biosystem

Re: Discovery - Message about time travel

gsch...@libero.it (GolfSierra) — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:09:19 UT

Have his book "Hyperspace" on my bookshelf. And I agree with you, that
time traveling did not occur at the PX, despite Al Bielek and some
other folks stated so - but we know what to think of them, don't we ?

Yes, it's an interesting idea, but of course it lacks proof-of-concept
- yet.

Which reminds on the STDTS device that Marshall Barnes developed. Have

Orgone energy

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Betsy Sinkey) — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:33:02 UT

I ran across a video re: Dr. Wilhelm Reich and his work on orgone energy. I remembered our having discussed this on the old PX list but do not recall how it tied in with the PX. One of the characters in Jack Kerouac's book "On the Road" had an orgone accumulator in his yard. I hope the link got through okay.

Re: Discovery - Message about time travel

wes...@sbcglobal.net — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:20:36 UT

Physicist Dr. Michio Kaku discusses time travel as a real possibility in the link below although I believe that the USS Eldridge did not time travel during the PX. Still in all, it is an intriguing concept and I personally cannot disprove any time travel claims related to the PX.
Betsy

Re: Al Bielek only second choice

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:21:16 UT

I've heard that Al is about to embark on a new career too!
[link]
Look out Ron Popeil!

Al Bielek only second choice

gsch...@libero.it (Golf Sierra) — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:21:01 UT

Looks like that after some high flying years, Al Bielek now is only
second choice for radio shows like C2C AM.
On 13 January, 2009, he only appeared as an 'add on' to another topic
of higher 'importance'. In a relatively short update he repeated most
of his usual crap and didn't add anything really new.

Re: Translators requested

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:11:36 UT

Greetings!
If you should wish to have translations made into the highly popular
'American southern redneck' dialect, I would be happy to volunteer mah
services! Here's an example of what I can do fo YOU!
------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----
Al Bielek finally debunked

Translators requested

gsch...@libero.it (Golf Sierra) — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:37:24 UT

Ladies and Gents,

There is still plenty of web space available for [link],
and after I added a flag counter to the main page and saw the guests
coming from all the different nations, I was thinking of adding other
languages to the web site.

So, here is my request:
Would somebody help me in translating the web site content into

Re: test

gsch...@libero.it (GolfSierra) — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:31:06 UT

Yup,

successful indeed.
Couldn't reply to another message by VU that contained an external
link for an image. Found out through the google groups help desk, that
it was that link that caused the problems.

Case closed.

Best regards,

Golf Sierra

Re: test

noise...@aol.com — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:26:53 UT

Test successful, I guess...

-----Original Message-----
To: Rise and Fall of Al Bielek <Rise-and-Fall-of-Al-Bielek@go oglegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 9:08 am

test

Re: Curious Coincidence ...

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Betsy Sinkey) — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:42:44 UT

There are many books about the PX. Too many are disinfo. I would love to know which are likely the most honest, accurate accounts. Let me hear from any of you if you have recommendations.
Thanks................Betsy

To: "Rise and Fall of Al Bielek" <Rise-and-Fall-of-Al-Bielek@go oglegroups.com>

Re: Curious Coincidence ...

gsch...@libero.it (GolfSierra) — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:10:11 UT

Good finding, VU.

The Philadelphia Experiment always is good for strange coincidences.

Best regards,

Curious Coincidence ...

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:20:14 UT

I'm sure that everyone is keeping an occasional eye on the latest antics
from Kim Jong Il (aka 'Comrade Chia Pet') regarding North Korea's impending
launch of another missile (maybe this one will last longer than 40 seconds
of flight time, lol) ... I saw a news report showing Japanese Naval
destroyers of the AEGIS class putting to sea, with every intention of

Re: John Titor Identity Revealed

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:30:16 UT

Well that settles that!

Thanks Betsy.

Re: John Titor Identity Revealed

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Betsy Sinkey) — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:21:14 UT

As best I know, time travel in a physical earthly body is not possible by any currently known science although A. Einstein and other notable scientists certainly kicked that possibility around at one time or other. The closest thing to it would be something on the order of remote viewing or similar out-of-body practices. Hyperdimentional travel may certainly be a realistic possibility which is seemingly what happened during the Philadelphia Experiment. Some experiencers claim to have traveled hyperdimensionally when passing through the Bermuda Triangle.

John Titor Identity Revealed

gsch...@libero.it (Golf Sierra) — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:29:25 UT

You all my remember the 'time traveller' John Titor.

Now somebody managed to solve the mystery. See the full story here:

[link]

Another cheater debunked. Well done, Hoaxhunter !

Re: scientists closer to invisability cloak

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Betsy Sinkey) — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:20:34 UT

It still impresses me that Tesla's technology is being used as we are in a digital age and Mr. Tesla was analog all the way. David R. Smith is a Montauk guy? Those boys do get around. Thanks for the input.
Betsy

To: Rise-and-Fall-of-Al-Bielek@goo glegroups.com

This isn't anything new.

Re: scientists closer to invisability cloak

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:39:23 UT

This isn't anything new.

"David R. Smith" is the backup soul-in-an-airtight-can that was 'on the shelf' at Montauk in case there were problems
with Al Bielek being brought forward in time.

David R. Smith is Al Bielek, and this 'new' invention is just recycled Tesla-technology.

Happy to be of service ;)

Re: scientists closer to invisability cloak

gsch...@libero.it (Golf Sierra) — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:24:04 UT

Hi Betsy,

thanks for this update. This project has potential.

Best regards,

scientists closer to invisability cloak

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Betsy Sinkey) — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:10:38 UT

WASHINGTON – They can't match Harry Potter yet, but scientists are moving closer to creating a real cloak of invisibility.
Researchers at Duke University,
who developed a material that can "cloak" an item from detection by
microwaves, report that they have expanded the number of wavelengths

Re: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Elizabeth Sinkey) — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:51:59 UT

Ha, ha, ha......(oops) ho, ho, ho.......ahoy, a very talented and humorous poet aboard the Eldridge. Bathed in a red light? Gee, I thought it was a green mist.......I must have put too much rum in the wassail again. No matter...........just have a great holiday everyone.
Betsy

To: Rise-and-Fall-of-Al-Bielek@goo glegroups.com

Re: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:41:19 UT

And the same to you G.S., and all the 'founders', members, and readers of bielekdebunked.com!

'Twas the Night before Christmas, on the DE-173,
There was something just not quite right, it did seem to me,
Out of the fog, out of a mist did appear,
A white bearded fellow, with partially materialized reindeer!

Re: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Elizabeth Sinkey) — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:29:30 UT

Hi, Gerold....great to hear from you. Warmest winter holiday wishes to all on the list. I will be looking forward to more frequent posts from everyone here in 2009.
Betsy

To: "Rise and Fall of Al Bielek" <Rise-and-Fall-of-Al-Bielek@go oglegroups.com>

...to all group members.

Best regards,

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...

gsch...@libero.it (Golf Sierra) — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:21:41 UT

...to all group members.

Best regards,

Golf Sierra

.... and consequently Golf Sierra on Keelynet.com, too !

gsch...@libero.it (Golf Sierra) — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:45:54 UT

I sent a message to Jerry Decker, asking him for providing a permalink
or at least an announcement for bielek-debunked.com, and so he did !

See
Highlights & Comments - 09/07/08

at keelynet.com
[link]

Best regards,

Golf Sierra

Re: Bielek and keelynet.com

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:46:15 UT

Every time I hear a new 'item' about Bielek (even as we approach the 'post-Bielek' period), the more I think that not
only is Al a classic case of 'functional dementia' (meaning completely delusional and yet able to live and function day
to day), he most certainly displays a variation of Munchausen's Syndrome. He possesses the gift of gab worthy of a

Bielek and keelynet.com

gsch...@libero.it (Golf Sierra) — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:06:15 UT

Almost unbelievable:
Bielek has contacted Jerry Decker from Keelynet and wanted to have the
articles about him deleted ! I don't know what to think about it and
why 'ol Al decided to do so, however it's a sign that he still is
active in his kind of show biz:

Taken from Keelynet.com ([link]) Highlights & Comments

New approach on Bielek's claims

gsch...@libero.it (Golf Sierra) — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:05:43 UT

Hi everybody,

a friend of mine published an interesting new point of view concerning
Al Bielek's claims as well as the real background for some other more
or less known stories. You might want to read his article 'Punked !'
at

[link]

I found his conclusions quite convincing. Makes sense to me.

Invisability cloak being developed

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Elizabeth Sinkey) — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:06:35 UT

By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor Sun Aug 10, 6:55 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Scientists have created two new types of materials that can bend light the wrong way, creating the first step toward an invisibility cloaking device.
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Re: Dead monster washes ashore at Montauk

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:03:16 UT

Ahhh, 2:00 am Eastern Time and I'm waxing poetic...
"I've never seen a naked turtle,
I never hope to see one,
But I can tell you anyway,
I'd rather see, than BE one!"
and then there is...
"Mock turtle soup, mock turtle soup,
It is surely not a turtle, we have all been duped,
Ponder now the media, all jumping through hoops,

Re: Dead monster washes ashore at Montauk

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Elizabeth Sinkey) — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:38:11 UT

It seems the majority of responders agrees with you however the turtle sans shell postulation also seems plausible. I'm not sure a I've never seen a naked turtle before. Then again I'm keeping an open mind on this. If the Montauk boys didn't have a hand in this then it may be some heretofore unknown marine species as well. We are starting to lose the North Pole as well as big icy chunks of Greenland, Canada and Antarctica and it's playing havoc with a huge number of sea-dependent species, many undergoing migration way out of their comfort zones. Or maybe ol' Al has jumped them into this time/space continuum from who knows where or when as a final farewell prank.

Re: Dead monster washes ashore at Montauk

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:09:40 UT

It's bullsh*t, a semi-clever promotion for some viral video production.

Dead monster washes ashore at Montauk

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Elizabeth Sinkey) — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:51:36 UT

This is weird. Amazing the stuff you see if you live long enough. "Montauk" was what got my attention.
Betsy

[link]

Re: The end is near....

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:05:32 UT

In the FWIW Department:
I called the number given for Al Bielek (Courtyards Retirement Home) and the nurse I spoke with said that Al was still
active as best he could, went to breakfast, lunch and dinner with the rest of the residents every day and she seemed to
think he wasn't doing too badly.
I may give him a call this weekend to wish him well.

The end is near....

gsch...@libero.it (Golf Sierra) — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:02:36 UT

May 11, 2008:

"Al Bielek, survivor of the Philadelphia Experiment, recently had more
strokes, a total of five this time. He is currently in a wheel chair,
in a Veteran’s Retirement Home in Punta Gorda, Fl. His direct line is
(941) 627 9701. He loves to get phone calls."

From the Relfe's nonsense metatech blog.

Re: Hurray ! http://www.philadelphia-experiment.com/ online again !

ccanfie...@yahoo.com (Canopus) — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:14:05 UT

Well, I don't begrudge Al Bielek the small profits he may be squeezing
out of his videos. After all, he has provided a valuable service:
entertaining ME! Haha!

I have to wonder how great business actually IS for him, especially in
view of the fact that he's still attempting to sell (unload?) VHS

Re: Hurray ! http://www.philadelphia-experiment.com/ online again !

ccanfie...@yahoo.com (Canopus) — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:50:41 UT

Well, I don't really believe in time paradoxes—I adhere to the "Back
To The Future 2" rules of time travel, as opposed to, say,
"Millennium." Therefore I can only assume that what you just
experienced was your soul being transferred to the you-body of a
slightly different timeline—one in which you were eating a beef

Re: Hurray ! http://www.philadelphia-experiment.com/ online again !

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:14:02 UT

Canopus you are truly brilliant to have recognized the unique variable of Sharon Tate acquiring Yoko Ono's
audio-disruptive abilities, that factor had escaped my attention. Kudos to you!
I did however, determine a factor which very likely would affect any and ALL alternate timelines, in fact it might even

Re: Hurray ! http://www.philadelphia-experiment.com/ online again !

ccanfie...@yahoo.com (Canopus) — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:52:08 UT

[oops, apparently I accidentally clicked on "reply to author" instead
of "reply," regarding the future of The Beatles if Al Bielek were to
go back to 1966 to kill Yoko Ono before she met John Lennon. I'm not
seeing either comment here, and now this will make absolutely no sense
to anyone else, haha!]

Marshall Barnes

wes...@sbcglobal.net (Elizabeth Sinkey) — Thu, 29 May 2008 21:50:49 UT

I don't know what Marshall Barnes is doing these days but found a Youtube of him discussing "The Invisible Santa Maria". He is one smart guy!
Betsy

[link]

An even more bizzare incarnation of Bielek's madness?

fred.ho...@rbc.com (boyboy) — Tue, 27 May 2008 14:20:35 UT

Yesterday Gerold and I exchanged notes that relate to Bob Beckwith's
PX version. I must admit that I had not read through his entire
version till this past weekend. I've been too busy searching for
Tesla at the local Denny's. Preston showed up instead but I said he
was a poor substitute but I bought him a tin helmet just the same.

Re: Hurray ! http://www.philadelphia-experiment.com/ online again !

virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com (virtual undisclosed) — Mon, 26 May 2008 21:31:50 UT

No, no, no, there are no dangerous viruses, worms, etc., what you have to worry about is that you MIGHT suddenly see
your computer disappear, zip forwards a thousand years into the future, then suddenly return to the secret base at
Montauk, with futuristic mp9 music files, all them duets by Al Bielek and George Djokic-Baaden singing "Come FLY with