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  <title type="text">Rise and Fall of Al Bielek Google Group</title>
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  Al Bielek, wellknown self-proclaimed eye-witness and survivor of the Philadelphia Experiment and the Montauk Project, has been proven wrong in 2003. He actually never participated in the PX and Montauk Project and made up his bed-time stories from scratch. See http://www.bielek-debunked.com
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  <updated>2009-09-04T22:04:30Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Golf Sierra</name>
  <email>gsch...@libero.it</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-09-04T22:04:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/4aa22384b7dfbbc7/c0828d9e509d8818?show_docid=c0828d9e509d8818</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/4aa22384b7dfbbc7/c0828d9e509d8818?show_docid=c0828d9e509d8818"/>
  <title type="text">Support by Barbara Hartwell - and please support her !</title>
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  Babs Hartwell has made up her mind about infamous Bielek-promoter Ken &lt;br&gt; Adachi - and she knows what she is talking about. Read her blog at &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://barbarahartwell.blogspot.com/2009/02/ken-adachi-parroting-hearsay-rank.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Best regards, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Golf Sierra &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;PS: Please excuse the Spam that was posted here lately - I cleaned up
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>virtual undisclosed</name>
  <email>virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-22T15:24:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/d5ab0e48e4dd7401?show_docid=d5ab0e48e4dd7401</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/d5ab0e48e4dd7401?show_docid=d5ab0e48e4dd7401"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Shooting down UFOs</title>
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  Thank you for that highly detailed explanation GS, you are 100 percent correct. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Regards, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;VU
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>GolfSierra</name>
  <email>gsch...@libero.it</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-22T15:02:01Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/8755acd13bbfb012?show_docid=8755acd13bbfb012</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/8755acd13bbfb012?show_docid=8755acd13bbfb012"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Shooting down UFOs</title>
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  What is an UFO ? &lt;br&gt; The term UFO was coined by military circles probably after World War &lt;br&gt; II. The original meaning is &lt;br&gt; Unidentified Flying Object, which from the original military point of &lt;br&gt; view means a flying object that has been spotted or detected by &lt;br&gt; optical means or radar. &lt;br&gt; It doesn&#39;t say a thing whether this object is of a natural kind or
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>virtual undisclosed</name>
  <email>virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-07-18T16:50:57Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/7e9b796c3d432812?show_docid=7e9b796c3d432812</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/7e9b796c3d432812?show_docid=7e9b796c3d432812"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Shooting down UFOs</title>
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  IF we did in fact shoot down a UFO, the occupants of that craft and their brethren would probably view such a shoot down &lt;br&gt; as we would view an ant biting our ankle as we explored a neighborhood ant hill. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;What might appear to be a &#39;big event&#39; to us is irrelevant and insignificant to them. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;But if we dig deep enough, I&#39;m sure we&#39;ll find Al Bielek flying one of those UFOs, bet on it.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Betsy Sinkey</name>
  <email>wes...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-18T16:43:22Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/a119c31755ad03ff?show_docid=a119c31755ad03ff</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/a119c31755ad03ff?show_docid=a119c31755ad03ff"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Shooting down UFOs</title>
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  VU.......thank you for that comment.  Add to that the fact that if a superior race were visiting us, would they be stupid enough to get into a position where they are vulnerable to being shot down?  Wouldn&#39;t such a superior technology have counter-offensive capability?  Further, wouldn&#39;t shooting one down be reason for them to retaliate in some way or certainly take measures to insure that it doesn&#39;t happen again? 
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>virtual undisclosed</name>
  <email>virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-18T16:27:14Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/12faeddc9e93625d?show_docid=12faeddc9e93625d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/12faeddc9e93625d?show_docid=12faeddc9e93625d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Shooting down UFOs</title>
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  Nothing personal Betsy, but that is a bunch o&#39; crap. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;The reason that orders would be given to shoot down UFOs would be based upon the fact that they are: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;a.) unidentified &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;b.) flying objects &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;c.) flying objects violating United States airspace without identifying themselves (see &amp;quot;a&amp;quot;). &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Regards,
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Betsy Sinkey</name>
  <email>wes...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-18T16:18:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/f8fff683ec49dbe9?show_docid=f8fff683ec49dbe9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/101b3e41de5073e2/f8fff683ec49dbe9?show_docid=f8fff683ec49dbe9"/>
  <title type="text">Shooting down UFOs</title>
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  From Whitley Strieber.....do we really shoot down UFOs? &lt;br&gt; Today I saw in Unknowncountry&#39;s Out There section a &lt;br&gt; witness &lt;br&gt; report that suggests that on July 10, the military shot at &lt;br&gt; UFOs that appeared over Fort Lewis, Washington. &lt;br&gt; That the US military has done so in the past is now a matter &lt;br&gt; of public record, since the British Ministry of Defence
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Betsy Sinkey</name>
  <email>wes...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-06-13T19:18:40Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/e7a982ce8c50fb3d/cf978305775b7004?show_docid=cf978305775b7004</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/e7a982ce8c50fb3d/cf978305775b7004?show_docid=cf978305775b7004"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Discovery - Message about time travel</title>
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  Wow.....this is very impressive.  Thanks for passing it along.  Bravo Marshall Barnes! &lt;br&gt; Betsy &lt;br&gt; To: &amp;quot;Rise and Fall of Al Bielek&amp;quot; &amp;lt;Rise-and-Fall-of-Al-Bielek@go oglegroups.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; Have his book &amp;quot;Hyperspace&amp;quot; on my bookshelf. And I agree with you, that &lt;br&gt; time traveling did not occur at the PX, despite Al Bielek and some
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>GolfSierra</name>
  <email>gsch...@libero.it</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-06-13T19:17:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/4853c1ecced1af64/ae3f991e4bda1a9b?show_docid=ae3f991e4bda1a9b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/4853c1ecced1af64/ae3f991e4bda1a9b?show_docid=ae3f991e4bda1a9b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Orgone energy</title>
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  Hi Betsy, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;as far as I can recall, &lt;br&gt; we came across Reich because of the claims of Preston Nichols. I think &lt;br&gt; he mentioned that the Montauk Chair received some sort of bio-energy &lt;br&gt; from the individual sitting on it, which may have had it&#39;s roots in &lt;br&gt; Reich&#39;s Orgone: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;He observed that the [b]orgone energy charge in the human biosystem
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>GolfSierra</name>
  <email>gsch...@libero.it</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-06-13T19:09:19Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/e7a982ce8c50fb3d/d0568ad075fcb3ca?show_docid=d0568ad075fcb3ca</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/e7a982ce8c50fb3d/d0568ad075fcb3ca?show_docid=d0568ad075fcb3ca"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Discovery - Message about time travel</title>
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  Have his book &amp;quot;Hyperspace&amp;quot; on my bookshelf. And I agree with you, that &lt;br&gt; time traveling did not occur at the PX, despite Al Bielek and some &lt;br&gt; other folks stated so - but we know what to think of them, don&#39;t we ? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Yes, it&#39;s an interesting idea, but of course it lacks proof-of-concept &lt;br&gt; - yet. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Which reminds on the STDTS device that Marshall Barnes developed. Have
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Betsy Sinkey</name>
  <email>wes...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-06-13T17:33:02Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/4853c1ecced1af64/d525e35106382903?show_docid=d525e35106382903</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/4853c1ecced1af64/d525e35106382903?show_docid=d525e35106382903"/>
  <title type="text">Orgone energy</title>
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  I ran across a video re: Dr. Wilhelm Reich and his work on orgone energy.  I remembered our having discussed this on the old PX list  but do not recall how it tied in with the PX.  One of the characters in Jack Kerouac&#39;s book &amp;quot;On the Road&amp;quot; had an orgone accumulator in his yard.  I hope the link got through okay.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <email>wes...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-06-13T16:20:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/e7a982ce8c50fb3d/10aec81a79bad634?show_docid=10aec81a79bad634</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/e7a982ce8c50fb3d/10aec81a79bad634?show_docid=10aec81a79bad634"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Discovery - Message about time travel</title>
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  Physicist Dr. Michio Kaku discusses time travel as a real possibility in the link below although I believe that the USS Eldridge did not time travel during the PX.  Still in all, it is an intriguing concept and I personally cannot disprove any time travel claims related to the PX. &lt;br&gt; Betsy
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>virtual undisclosed</name>
  <email>virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-06-06T17:21:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/4466c2df568cc79c/4ced34d15bd86b26?show_docid=4ced34d15bd86b26</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/4466c2df568cc79c/4ced34d15bd86b26?show_docid=4ced34d15bd86b26"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Al Bielek only second choice</title>
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  I&#39;ve heard that Al is about to embark on a new career too! &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6352/al4ronco.jpg&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Look out Ron Popeil!
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Golf Sierra</name>
  <email>gsch...@libero.it</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-06-05T21:21:01Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/4466c2df568cc79c/88d1651de134c18e?show_docid=88d1651de134c18e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/4466c2df568cc79c/88d1651de134c18e?show_docid=88d1651de134c18e"/>
  <title type="text">Al Bielek only second choice</title>
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  Looks like that after some high flying years, Al Bielek now is only &lt;br&gt; second choice for radio shows like C2C AM. &lt;br&gt; On 13 January, 2009, he only appeared as an &#39;add on&#39; to another topic &lt;br&gt; of higher &#39;importance&#39;. In a relatively short update he repeated most &lt;br&gt; of his usual crap and didn&#39;t add anything really new.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>virtual undisclosed</name>
  <email>virtual.undisclo...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-04-12T20:11:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/8086ec9d8cc054ce/85c498b2d4d1d119?show_docid=85c498b2d4d1d119</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/rise-and-fall-of-al-bielek/browse_thread/thread/8086ec9d8cc054ce/85c498b2d4d1d119?show_docid=85c498b2d4d1d119"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Translators requested</title>
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  Greetings! &lt;br&gt; If you should wish to have translations made into the highly popular &lt;br&gt; &#39;American southern redneck&#39; dialect, I would be happy to volunteer mah &lt;br&gt; services! Here&#39;s an example of what I can do fo YOU! &lt;br&gt; ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ---- &lt;br&gt; Al Bielek finally debunked
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