Osborne Bridge Update and Meeting

[Mark Cohoe]

Hi,

We've had a second meeting of the Osborne Bridge Neighbourhood Advisory Committee, here is the summary of that meeting.  I'd like to meet and discuss the opportunities and strategy at the Toad in the Hold 7pm on Monday October 19th. 

Highlights of Meeting #2

• Clarification on the minutes regarding the possibility for extra width on the bridge.  We’ve gone from “there will be no room for bike lanes” to “there is no room for bike lanes in the current configuration”.  We will have to wait and see if that will lead to any improvements being implemented.
• There is wide support for improvements to the cycling and pedestrian facilities on the bridge.
• Osborne Village secondary plan prevents any right of way expansion being used to create new motorized traffic lanes.
• There are strong community concerns about cut through traffic.

Mark

[Anders Swanson]

Mark,

Is there any explanation as to why there are currently 3 lanes southbound, but only 2 north bound?

I'm no traffic engineer, but it would seem to me that southbound lane must not really needed:

If there are always 50% more people traveling south in this location, wouldn't the northern half of Winnipeg be emptied out by now?     : )


Anders

[Mark Cohoe]

Apparently the original idea was to add a third Northbound lane to
allow for left turns onto Mostyn, but that idea was abandoned (its not
in the current picture either). That is why there is such a wide
median.

The curb lane ends at River, so that drivers have to turn right onto
Roslyn or River (or turn into the left lane). Left turns are not
allowed off Osborne onto Rolsyn in peak hours (contrary to my previous
post on the Downtown Group). The Roslyn intersection is within the
bounds of the project, so I should ask for numbers on turning, etc.
It might be a hard sell to get rid of the turning lane. There should
be lots of room for brainstorming around this lane and these
intersections.

Mark

On Oct 16, 10:49 am, Anders Swanson <andersswan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark,
>
> *Is there any explanation as to why there are currently 3 lanes southbound,

> but only 2 north bound?

> *

> I'm no traffic engineer, but it would seem to me that southbound lane must
> not really needed:
>
> If there are always 50% more people traveling south in this location,
> wouldn't the northern half of Winnipeg be emptied out by now?     : )
>
> Anders
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Mark Cohoe <mco...@mts.net> wrote:
> >  Hi,
>
> > We've had a second meeting of the Osborne Bridge Neighbourhood Advisory
> > Committee, here is the summary of that meeting.  I'd like to meet and
> > discuss the opportunities and strategy at the Toad in the Hold 7pm on Monday
> > October 19th.
>
> > Highlights of Meeting #2
>

> >    - Clarification on the minutes regarding the possibility for extra

> >    width on the bridge.  We’ve gone from “there will be no room for bike lanes”
> >    to “there is no room for bike lanes in the current configuration”.  We will
> >    have to wait and see if that will lead to any improvements being
> >    implemented.

> >    - There is wide support for improvements to the cycling and pedestrian
> >    facilities on the bridge.
> >    - Osborne Village secondary plan prevents any right of way expansion

> >    being used to create new motorized traffic lanes.

> >    - There are strong community concerns about cut through traffic.
>
> > Mark

[BOB KURY]

Hi Mark,

I will try to attend this meeting. I am available at present.Where will you be sitting?

Bob

[BOB KURY]

Hi Anders,

The answer to your question might be in how traffic approaches the Osborne Street area from the north and south. You would need to go back the pre-design/feasibility and final design reports for the bridge. The engineers at the time would have been looking at how traffic was going to move in the general area of River Avenue and Osbourne Street.

The current configuration of the lanes on the Osbourne bridge currently do not make it easy to add cycle lanes on the bridge because there is a very wide median in the centre. This median can be narrowed and reconfigured to provide at least one cycle lane and a safer median. The other cycle lane could possibly come from taking some width from the traffic lanes.

I hope this helps.

Bob

----- Original Message -----

From: Anders Swanson <anders...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:49 am
Subject: Re: Osborne Bridge Update and Meeting
To: westcentralco...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Downtown Winnipeg Cycling <wpgdownto...@googlegroups.com>, River Heights Corydon Osborne <rh...@googlegroups.com>

> Mark,
>
> *Is there any explanation as to why there are currently 3 lanes
> southbound,but only 2 north bound?
> *

> I'm no traffic engineer, but it would seem to me that southbound
> lane must
> not really needed:
>
> If there are always 50% more people traveling south in this location,
> wouldn't the northern half of Winnipeg be emptied out by
> now?     : )
>
>
> Anders
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Mark Cohoe <mco...@mts.net>
> wrote:
> >  Hi,
> >
> > We've had a second meeting of the Osborne Bridge Neighbourhood
> Advisory> Committee, here is the summary of that meeting. 
> I'd like to meet and
> > discuss the opportunities and strategy at the Toad in the Hold
> 7pm on Monday
> > October 19th.
> >
> > Highlights of Meeting #2
> >

> >    - Clarification on the minutes regarding the

> possibility for extra
> >    width on the bridge.  We’ve gone from
> “there will be no room for bike lanes”
> >    to “there is no room for bike lanes in the
> current configuration”.  We will
> >    have to wait and see if that will lead to
> any improvements being
> >    implemented.

> >    - There is wide support for improvements to

> the cycling and pedestrian
> >    facilities on the bridge.

> >    - Osborne Village secondary plan prevents

> any right of way expansion
> >    being used to create new motorized traffic lanes.

> >    - There are strong community concerns about
> cut through traffic.
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>