Announcing openredis - Redis hosting service
Michel Martens
Just wanted to share something which we've been working on for a while
now, which we've aptly named openredis. Basically its Redis hosting
for people who doesn't want to deal with the deployment of their Redis
instances, while enjoying automated backups, monitoring, and in the
future, fail-safe master-slave replicated setups.
What we've tried to emphasize while working on this was being open
about everything-- the source code of the whole site is open, so are
the tools underneath that drives it. We love Redis and the community
surrounding it, so we're making the service around it as transparent
as possible, even the pricing!
We've been huge supporters of Redis from its early days, and have
deployed a lot of applications, both client and products using it.
Much of what is being used here are tried and tested tools which we
ourselves use for managing our Redis deployments.
We're still in closed beta. We're going to take the approach of taking
of care of our customers-- hence we're going to grow this as
organically as possible.
If you want to know more head over to http://openredis.com. We're
always at #openredis at irc.freenode.net, or you can just send as an
email at te...@openredis.com if you prefer that as well.
Best Regards,
Michel Martens
@soveran
Tim Lossen
oh, and your mission says: "Yet so few applications that are
perfect for it aren't using Redis." shouldn't that rather read
"so many"?
cheers
tim
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Michel Martens
> awesome! but where is the pricing info?
There are some changes we need to make to the website, and among those
are including the pricing info.
But I will explain it here, as it very simple and the discussion
around it may help us too.
We have a reservation for 3 years of a large EC2 instance. This will
play well with people hosting their websites in EC2 (Heroku, EY,
etc.), and we plan to have other installations in other cloud
providers.
That EC2 instance has 7.5G of RAM, and our initial idea is to have 12
paying customers and give 500mb of RAM to each.
The cost of an EC2 instance (paying as you go) divided by 12 is
something like 20 bucks. As we did reserve the instance, that price
for us is around 11. We will charge 20 per month to each of those 12
clients, and our profit will be 8 dollars per user per month. As you
can imagine, it won't even cover our salaries, so it's indeed a
community effort.
> oh, and your mission says: "Yet so few applications that are
> perfect for it aren't using Redis." shouldn't that rather read
> "so many"?
That's correct. I had a coworker pointing that error the second after
I sent the email :-)
Tim Lossen
> paying customers and give 500mb of RAM to each.
>
> The cost of an EC2 instance (paying as you go) divided by 12 is
> something like 20 bucks. As we did reserve the instance, that price
> for us is around 11. We will charge 20 per month to each of those 12
> clients, and our profit will be 8 dollars per user per month. As you
> can imagine, it won't even cover our salaries, so it's indeed a
> community effort.
that is a very modest markup -- perhaps even *too* modest, in my opinion,
if you want this service to be sustainable over the longer term.
maybe you could model the pricing on slicehost or rackspace, where
the starting price for 256 MB of memory is 20 bucks? and then offer
discounts for larger amounts?
tim
Salvatore Sanfilippo
enough to bet that this can just be a very cool project in your hands.
Thanks for bringing so much value to the Redis community.
Cheers,
Salvatore
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Michel Martens
> Michel, I just have to say that at this point I know you guys well
> enough to bet that this can just be a very cool project in your hands.
> Thanks for bringing so much value to the Redis community.
Thank you!
Michel Martens
Yes, indeed you may be right. I was talking to qrush on IRC and he
suggested the same. I think we can have a trial period for ourselves
too, and see how off the price is. If we can survive with $ 20, then
we can keep it. If not, we can try to cover our costs.
Something I didn't mention in my previous emails, but worth noting in
case anyone wants to check it.
The code for the website is available at https://github.com/cyx/openredis.com/
The provisioning tool is available at https://github.com/cyx/rprov
We got quite a few signups already, so we may be adding more servers.
Thanks a lot for the feedback, it's very appreciated :-)
Jak Sprats
very cool idea, sharing resources of a EC2 instance, very cool.
it would be complicated, but maybe a bidding pricing model like
amazon's spot instances would be a way to make more money on this and
at worst cover your costs, given enough demand you could even spin up
instances and make money, and spin them down when the demand is low.
another thought: since everyone using your product will need an EC2
instance to run their client, having an agent run on their client
machine that continually copies the AOF file or periodically copies
the RDB file would give you some sort of failover for free.
Also, since people are sharing a single EC2 instance, you should put
in some security mechanisms ... if i get an instance at some IP, I can
just port scan it and start messing w/ other people's instances.
just some thoughts?
- Jak
On Feb 4, 9:18 am, Michel Martens <mic...@soveran.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Tim Lossen <t...@lossen.de> wrote:
> >> That EC2 instance has 7.5G of RAM, and our initial idea is to have 12
> >> paying customers and give 500mb of RAM to each.
>
> >> The cost of an EC2 instance (paying as you go) divided by 12 is
> >> something like 20 bucks. As we did reserve the instance, that price
> >> for us is around 11. We will charge 20 per month to each of those 12
> >> clients, and our profit will be 8 dollars per user per month. As you
> >> can imagine, it won't even cover our salaries, so it's indeed a
> >> community effort.
>
> > that is a very modest markup -- perhaps even *too* modest, in my opinion,
> > if you want this service to be sustainable over the longer term.
>
> > maybe you could model the pricing on slicehost or rackspace, where
> > the starting price for 256 MB of memory is 20 bucks? and then offer
> > discounts for larger amounts?
>
> Yes, indeed you may be right. I was talking to qrush on IRC and he
> suggested the same. I think we can have a trial period for ourselves
> too, and see how off the price is. If we can survive with $ 20, then
> we can keep it. If not, we can try to cover our costs.
>
> Something I didn't mention in my previous emails, but worth noting in
> case anyone wants to check it.
>
> The provisioning tool is available athttps://github.com/cyx/rprov