i have been a red5 enthusiast for a long time , i have created several systems using red5 and as3,
a year ago i created a video conference app like chatroulette.com just for fun and forgot about it because i was working in other projects
so i would like to see this app to be published and actively used thats why im asking for the help of this community with advice and maybe contributors.
First of all i havent decided if i should share this project so im asking for your advice.
i could open the source the code (have no problem with that) but dont know if that would
make this project work, i was thinking in distributing only the red5 code and make it communicate with several red5 servers somehow
like a cluster (dont know if its posible) with the idea of always having users in the system no matter where the swf is installed (web servers , desktop apps or mobile devices).
So for this app to work it will need several red5 servers ,development and
maybe a way to monetize or get a sponsor so it can grow ,
the way i see it is more a bussiness/collaboration challenge than a development challenge.
If we can get enougth contributors and a good plan to monetize the system this could work , otherwise it will be a waste of time, so
im asking for your advice since i've never started a project like this and have no idea if its a good idea, if this work it could be a cool toy to meet people over the world :)
By the way some of you may remember chatroulette had a problem of having a lot of weird users making a gross experience so to solve this i integrated the system with facebook
so users need to use their facebook account to access , this is somehow a way of moderation (since others will know who they are talking to).
In my opinion if your code is just resting in the dust at the moment, going
open source cannot do any bad to it.
It won't naturaly boost your project though.
Only you and eventual close collaborators can boost it to the point people
get interrested in it an even then, unless you put some sort of API in
place or advanced a lot on the interresting parts like the cluster (look
into Ehcache for that by the way, it's a fairly simple way to do it) people
won't collaborate to the point that your project get "massCoded". You'll
get help on testing for sure: plenty of people reporting bugs, some will
fix them, a few might even improve the system, one good soul could add a
feature.
Well this is a pretty pessimistic view I'm giving you here, and (i should
have said at the start) I have zero experience with putting an app
opensource.
But from what i can see around and even with this great tool that is red5,
the application is maintained mainly by the committers (correct me if i'm
wrong committers).
I'm not revising this message i might delete it (it's such a vague
assumption)
good luck in any case.
On 22 October 2012 04:41, paranoio <paran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i have been a red5 enthusiast for a long time , i have created several
> systems using red5 and as3,
> a year ago i created a video conference app like chatroulette.com just
> for fun and forgot about it because i was working in other projects
> so i would like to see this app to be published and actively used thats
> why im asking for the help of this community with
> advice and maybe contributors.
> First of all i havent decided if i should share this project so im asking
> for your advice.
> i could open the source the code (have no problem with that) but dont
> know if that would
> make this project work, i was thinking in distributing only the red5 code
> and make it communicate with several red5 servers somehow
> like a cluster (dont know if its posible) with the idea of always having
> users in the system no matter where the swf is installed (web servers ,
> desktop apps or mobile devices).
> So for this app to work it will need several red5 servers ,development
> and maybe a way to monetize or get a sponsor so it can grow ,
> the way i see it is more a bussiness/collaboration challenge than a
> development challenge.
> If we can get enougth contributors and a good plan to monetize the system
> this could work , otherwise it will be a waste of time, so
> im asking for your advice since i've never started a project like this and
> have no idea if its a good idea,
> if this work it could be a cool toy to meet people over the world :)
> By the way some of you may remember chatroulette had a problem of having a
> lot of weird users making a gross experience so to solve this i integrated
> the system with facebook
> so users need to use their facebook account to access , this is somehow a
> way of moderation (since others will know who they are talking to).
> In my opinion if your code is just resting in the dust at the moment, > going open source cannot do any bad to it.
> It won't naturaly boost your project though.
> Only you and eventual close collaborators can boost it to the point > people get interrested in it an even then, unless you put some sort of API > in place or advanced a lot on the interresting parts like the cluster (look > into Ehcache for that by the way, it's a fairly simple way to do it) people > won't collaborate to the point that your project get "massCoded". You'll > get help on testing for sure: plenty of people reporting bugs, some will > fix them, a few might even improve the system, one good soul could add a > feature.
> Well this is a pretty pessimistic view I'm giving you here, and (i should > have said at the start) I have zero experience with putting an app > opensource. > But from what i can see around and even with this great tool that is red5, > the application is maintained mainly by the committers (correct me if i'm > wrong committers).
> I'm not revising this message i might delete it (it's such a vague > assumption)
> good luck in any case.
> On 22 October 2012 04:41, paranoio <para...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
>> Hello my name is Luis
>> i have been a red5 enthusiast for a long time , i have created several >> systems using red5 and as3,
>> a year ago i created a video conference app like chatroulette.com just >> for fun and forgot about it because i was working in other projects
>> so i would like to see this app to be published and actively used thats >> why im asking for the help of this community with >> advice and maybe contributors.
>> First of all i havent decided if i should share this project so im asking >> for your advice.
>> i could open the source the code (have no problem with that) but dont >> know if that would
>> make this project work, i was thinking in distributing only the red5 >> code and make it communicate with several red5 servers somehow
>> like a cluster (dont know if its posible) with the idea of always having >> users in the system no matter where the swf is installed (web servers , >> desktop apps or mobile devices).
>> So for this app to work it will need several red5 servers ,development >> and maybe a way to monetize or get a sponsor so it can grow ,
>> the way i see it is more a bussiness/collaboration challenge than a >> development challenge.
>> If we can get enougth contributors and a good plan to monetize the system >> this could work , otherwise it will be a waste of time, so
>> im asking for your advice since i've never started a project like this >> and have no idea if its a good idea, >> if this work it could be a cool toy to meet people over the world :)
>> By the way some of you may remember chatroulette had a problem of having >> a lot of weird users making a gross experience so to solve this i >> integrated the system with facebook
>> so users need to use their facebook account to access , this is somehow a >> way of moderation (since others will know who they are talking to).
Sometimes it's difficult to know whether a project will succeed in the open
source world or not. Sometimes a niche market surfaces where there's money
to be made and sometimes there are no downloads and just crickets. I think
the projects that do extremely well hit the road with plenty of great
documentation and good use cases... which excludes Red5 since there's not
really any great documentation out there, just a smart community that has a
good background in media server development. Red5 was lucky cause there was
a need for the server, however most projects won't get touched if there
isn't good documentation from the outset. The other thing you'll have to
think about is how much you plan on supporting your community. At first it
will be quite intense and you'll be giving a lot of your spare time in
order to get others up and running. If you don't plan on helping others get
up and running, the project might just sit there.
The other thing I'd say is that chatroullette was a short phenomena and
people would probably use your project for something different, but you
probably already know that :).
I do however think that you'll have people who are looking for something
close or similar and you could find the best use of the code by open
sourcing it.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:34 PM, paranoio <paran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello
> sorry to take so long in answer back, i was waiting for more replies.
> I guess you are right the only person maintaining the code will be me and
> some people testing it ,
> the problem is i dont have too much time or resouces to start this project
> its not that there are too much to develop or maintain more like finding
> people sharing red5 server bandwidth.
> And get enough users to make the project attractive to advertisers then
> give it some more work in the code
> and that should do the trick but i willl wait for more opinions :)
> El martes, 23 de octubre de 2012 09:20:34 UTC-5, rr404 escribió:
>> In my opinion if your code is just resting in the dust at the moment,
>> going open source cannot do any bad to it.
>> It won't naturaly boost your project though.
>> Only you and eventual close collaborators can boost it to the point
>> people get interrested in it an even then, unless you put some sort of API
>> in place or advanced a lot on the interresting parts like the cluster (look
>> into Ehcache for that by the way, it's a fairly simple way to do it) people
>> won't collaborate to the point that your project get "massCoded". You'll
>> get help on testing for sure: plenty of people reporting bugs, some will
>> fix them, a few might even improve the system, one good soul could add a
>> feature.
>> Well this is a pretty pessimistic view I'm giving you here, and (i should
>> have said at the start) I have zero experience with putting an app
>> opensource.
>> But from what i can see around and even with this great tool that is
>> red5, the application is maintained mainly by the committers (correct me if
>> i'm wrong committers).
>> I'm not revising this message i might delete it (it's such a vague
>> assumption)
>> good luck in any case.
>> On 22 October 2012 04:41, paranoio <para...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello my name is Luis
>>> i have been a red5 enthusiast for a long time , i have created several
>>> systems using red5 and as3,
>>> a year ago i created a video conference app like chatroulette.com just
>>> for fun and forgot about it because i was working in other projects
>>> so i would like to see this app to be published and actively used thats
>>> why im asking for the help of this community with
>>> advice and maybe contributors.
>>> First of all i havent decided if i should share this project so im
>>> asking for your advice.
>>> i could open the source the code (have no problem with that) but dont
>>> know if that would
>>> make this project work, i was thinking in distributing only the red5
>>> code and make it communicate with several red5 servers somehow
>>> like a cluster (dont know if its posible) with the idea of always having
>>> users in the system no matter where the swf is installed (web servers ,
>>> desktop apps or mobile devices).
>>> So for this app to work it will need several red5 servers ,development
>>> and maybe a way to monetize or get a sponsor so it can grow ,
>>> the way i see it is more a bussiness/collaboration challenge than a
>>> development challenge.
>>> If we can get enougth contributors and a good plan to monetize the
>>> system this could work , otherwise it will be a waste of time, so
>>> im asking for your advice since i've never started a project like this
>>> and have no idea if its a good idea,
>>> if this work it could be a cool toy to meet people over the world :)
>>> By the way some of you may remember chatroulette had a problem of having
>>> a lot of weird users making a gross experience so to solve this i
>>> integrated the system with facebook
>>> so users need to use their facebook account to access , this is somehow
>>> a way of moderation (since others will know who they are talking to).
I really apreciate your time and advices on this subject,
i agree about the short phenomena and also about inverting time on the
project otherwise it could end in a ghost project ,
any way just wanted to tell you i got some proposals after posting my
question in this mail list and decided to not open source for now since we
are going to invest money and development and see we if we can get this
project to a commercial solution.
thanks again :)
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Dominick Accattato <domin...@red5.org>wrote:
> und in media server development. Red5 was lucky cause there was a need for
> the server, however most projects won't get touched if there isn't good
> documentation from the outset. The other thing you'll have to think about
> is
