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Kaustav Das Modak  
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From: Kaustav Das Modak <kido.for...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:26:26 +0530
Local: Mon, Jan 17 2011 6:56 am
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

I agree with P JH. One of my websites, which gets a considerable amount of
visit is being hit by spam recently. My plan to tackle this is to implement
multiple captchas for the registration and feedback forms, along with
reCaptcha. However, I am not ready to let go of reCaptcha because it has
been very useful and easy to integrate. Even then, it cannot stop people who
manually and delibrately spread spam around.
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Modern Jess  
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From: Modern Jess <modernve...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:20:58 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
On Jan 16, 7:42 am, Orgsitesi...@aol.com wrote:

> We as users / Developers need to think and offer suggestions to Google /  
> reCAPTCHA vs. JUST point out the problems...  I know I have several  times.

You think Google is actually listening? That's... optimistic.

 
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tom wible  
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From: tom wible <airdrum...@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:22:24 -0500
Local: Mon, Jan 17 2011 10:22 am
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

On Jan 16, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Modern Jess wrote:

> xrumer

another gift from microSerfdum;-)

i've gotten 1 blog comment referring to xrumerbaza.ru, but 3 to  
forums.bleachexile.com, all caught by askimet:-)


 
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Nick Wilcox  
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 More options Jan 18 2011, 12:06 pm
From: Nick Wilcox <wilc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:06:05 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 18 2011 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
PJH - your SPAM defense is only as good as your weakest link.

Perhaps instead of ignoring the issue, Google should respond with some
feedback ... it doesn't have to be a answer or a even fix, but just a
simple reply would help in this regard.

Customers should be alerted if this product/system has been
compromised.

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orgsitesi...@aol.com  
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From: Orgsitesi...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:13:48 -0500 (EST)
Local: Tues, Jan 18 2011 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

Has anyone, by chance, looked for an email contact at Google to see if we  
can reach a support person / team for reCAPTCHA?  A very simple, nice and  
professional email could do ALOT to getting our requests reviewed and replied
 to?!

Sincerely,

-Scott
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P JH  
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 More options Jan 18 2011, 12:19 pm
From: P JH <pauljherr...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:19:02 +0000
Local: Tues, Jan 18 2011 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Nick Wilcox <wilc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> PJH - your SPAM defense is only as good as your weakest link.

With all due respect - rubbish.

The "weakest link" analogy only applies if you're running such things
in parallel and accepting *any* "yes" answer rather than requiring all
of them to say "yes." Other things you can use in addition to
reCAPTCHA (not all may be applicable to particular applications, and
some not worth the effort required to implement them):

1) Akismet
2) IP blacklists
3) New user moderation
4) Peer moderation
5) Token authentication to verify account activation
6) Bayesian filtering
7) Markovian discrimination

> Perhaps instead of ignoring the issue, Google should respond with some
> feedback ... it doesn't have to be a answer or a even fix, but just a
> simple reply would help in this regard.

Perhaps, instead of railing on a user list when it's obvious there's
no-one answering from the supplier, those with concerns could email
support directly[1] instead of incessantly moaning on here that their
one no-cost barrier to spam isn't working as effectively as it could,
and defending their decision to use only one method of stopping
spammers.

> Customers should be alerted if this product/system has been
> compromised.

[1] It's not as if the contact address is deliberately hidden away:
http://www.google.com/recaptcha/contact

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craiggers  
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From: craiggers <cko...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:26:34 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 18 2011 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
That's great. Why don't you share some of the others with us.

Craig

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From: P JH <pauljherr...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:38:10 +0000
Local: Tues, Jan 18 2011 12:38 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
I did. 7 minutes before you sent this to the list.

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 More options Jan 18 2011, 1:54 pm
From: tom wible <airdrum...@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:54:55 -0500
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Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

On Jan 18, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Nick Wilcox wrote:

> Customers should be alerted if this product/system has been

u get what u pay 4;-)

 
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Modern Jess  
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 More options Jan 19 2011, 5:59 pm
From: Modern Jess <modernve...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:59:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Jan 19 2011 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

> instead of incessantly moaning on here that their
> one no-cost barrier to spam isn't working as effectively as it could,
> and defending their decision to use only one method of stopping
> spammers.

I initially posted to determine if it was just me, since there was
very little recent mention of reCAPTCHA being broken anywhere I
looked. I wanted to make mention of it since nobody else was.

I *did* take additional countermeasures as soon as reCAPTCHA fell.
They're working fairly well at the moment, although the IP blacklist
portion of my countermeasures are ensnaring some folks who are unlucky
enough to be served by an ISP that uses a small bank of IP proxies
(like AOL). So be it.

But moaning? No. Discussing the current situation with other people
who may or may not be having the same problem, yes. I don't expect
Google to read this or respond. My post was directed at others who
might be having the same problem.

You sir are an ass of the first order. Unfortunately the internet is
littered with asses just like yourself who style themselves as
internet know-it-alls and who sit all day behind keyboards making
grand pronouncements from on-high. With all due respect (which is to
say *none*) you can go run up a big fat weed.


 
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P JH  
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 More options Jan 19 2011, 6:30 pm
From: P JH <pauljherr...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 23:30:03 +0000
Local: Wed, Jan 19 2011 6:30 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Modern Jess <modernve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> instead of incessantly moaning on here that their
>> one no-cost barrier to spam isn't working as effectively as it could,
>> and defending their decision to use only one method of stopping
>> spammers.

> I initially posted to determine if it was just me,

That  quote wasn't directed at your initial post.

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Modern Jess  
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From: Modern Jess <modernve...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:55:25 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
On Jan 19, 3:30 pm, P JH <pauljherr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That  quote wasn't directed at your initial post.

My response was most assuredly directed at yours, though.

 
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Michael  
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From: Michael <formi...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:29:28 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
On Jan 19, 6:55 pm, Modern Jess <modernve...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 19, 3:30 pm, P JH <pauljherr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > That  quote wasn't directed at your initial post.

> My response was most assuredly directed at yours, though.

And your reply(ies) surely make you an ass of at least the same order
as those you called out. lol

Isn't this fun?

Excuse me, while I get back to being a self-styled internet guru.


 
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Herry  
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 More options Jan 20 2011, 8:02 pm
From: Herry <he...@redcirclemedia.nl>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:02:40 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jan 20 2011 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
Trying to get passed the bitchfight

A few days ago, I described some problems I seem to have with ReCaptcha.
These problems have not been solved yet. In summary:

On my guestbook (http://www.yawp.nl/guestbook) I get a could not open
socket & connection timed out error whenever I fill in some info.
I tried a couple of possible solutions I found searching in Google.
Funny enough everything goes smoothly on my develop server. So I tried
to get different keys for the develop server and the live server, but it
made no difference. So I came to the conclusion it must be the live
server's config.

But now I found that spammers somehow seemed to get passed, and filled
my guestbook. This makes me wonder. Apparently it seems they can
actually surpass the entire ReCaptcha protection. This brings about a
whole new aspect...


 
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Adrian Godong  
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 More options Jan 20 2011, 9:32 pm
From: Adrian Godong <adrian.god...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:32:38 -0800
Local: Thurs, Jan 20 2011 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
I didn't get the e-mail (probably GMail is overloaded by spam) but P
JH has replied your problem.

This problem is usually caused by firewall or server configuration,
not reCAPTCHA.

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Michael  
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From: Michael <formi...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:57:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 21 2011 4:57 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
Can't add much more than adrian did above.  It is a firewall
configuration issue that is causing your socket error.  You say your
problem have not been solved yet, however, that very problem has been
solved in this group over and over again (which is why it gets so damn
old).  Search the group for "socket error".

You don't need separate keys for a localhost vs. production
implementation.  I'm guessing your local machine is on a different
network than your production machine.  You need to contact the hosting
company of your production machine and ask them to open some ports
(search for "socket error" to find out more).

As for the spam getting through, quite frankly, I am not having that
problem with my implementations, so I'm not sure why so many are
claiming the issue.

This bitch is out...back to being a self-styled internet guru.

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monotek@gmx.net  
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 More options Jan 21 2011, 5:18 pm
From: "mono...@gmx.net" <mono...@gmx.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:18:18 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 21 2011 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

i have the same problem with phpbb for some time so i think its definitely
cracked.

changed to phpbbs own gd captcha now and spam is stopped.

maybe your site was just not visited by bots yet...

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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:34:08 -0800
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Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
That's probably true and I'm quite sure the team is on it (even though
there's no announcement here). I saw an update on recaptcha images
lately (instead of full black text, only black outline is visible).

Refresh multiple times to see it:
http://www.google.com/recaptcha/learnmore

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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:39:19 +0100
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Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

svn does not show any activity since its cracked :-(

http://code.google.com/p/recaptcha/source/list

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Adrian Godong  
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:12:15 -0800
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Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
You're looking at the wrong SVN.

(This is not reCAPTCHA, this is reCAPTCHA *plugins*)

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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:52:17 +0100
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Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

whats the right link?

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From: Adrian Godong <adrian.god...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:58:36 -0800
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Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

I don't know. reCAPTCHA is not open source. The plugins are but not the service.

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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:42:38 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Jan 22 2011 10:42 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
Stop spam, read books! I guess they read well their books on how to
crack and/or bypass recaptcha.

 
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From: Herry <he...@redcirclemedia.nl>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:47:43 +0100
Local: Sat, Jan 22 2011 10:47 pm
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?
I wish they'd come into the open and meet my dr Martens


 
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 03:18:47 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Jan 23 2011 6:18 am
Subject: Re: Have spammers cracked reCAPTCHA?

its not been cracked as such.

warez site (and other such site) will be signing up to your forum when
they come accross a captcha, they store the image, wait for some1 to
download from their site and display the catcha for ur site.

this allows them to fill captchas without manually signing up!

try adding a second authentication box, such as a random small maths
puzzle?

hope this helps.

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