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Lew Hodgett

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Feb 25, 2011, 1:48:18 PM2/25/11
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Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.

Look out $5/gal, headed your way.

Lew


Chuck

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Feb 25, 2011, 2:04:04 PM2/25/11
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Still $3.19 here in S. Fl.
Chuck

Zz Yzx

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Feb 25, 2011, 2:22:05 PM2/25/11
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$3.73 in NorCal I-80 corridor.

-Zz

tom

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"Lew Hodgett" <sails...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.
>
> Look out $5/gal, headed your way.
>
> Lew

$3.35 in Chicago.

Joe AutoDrill

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$2.99 this morning here in NJ.

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Joe AutoDrill

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Feb 25, 2011, 3:07:00 PM2/25/11
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Just to rub it in... $2.89 here in NJ if I travel to it.

http://www.newjerseygasprices.com/

Michael Kenefick

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Feb 25, 2011, 3:11:00 PM2/25/11
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$3.39 in Hilliard, Ohio. It was 2.95 last week when I got some!?

Doug Miller

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Feb 25, 2011, 3:23:02 PM2/25/11
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In article <4d67f972$0$15321$c3e8da3$4605...@news.astraweb.com>, "Lew Hodgett" <sails...@verizon.net> wrote:
>Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.

Must suck to be in SoCal. I saw $3.13 in Indianapolis on the way to work this
morning...


>
>Look out $5/gal, headed your way.

Probably not anytime soon here.

FrozenNorth

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Feb 25, 2011, 3:34:35 PM2/25/11
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1.21 a liter here in Toronto == 4.57/US Gallon approx.
I am ignoring the currency exchange as they are so close right now.

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Dave Balderstone

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Feb 25, 2011, 3:55:27 PM2/25/11
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In article <ik93p6$o4m$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, FrozenNorth
<frozenN...@gm.nospam.ail.com> wrote:

> On 2/25/11 1:48 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> > Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.
> >
> > Look out $5/gal, headed your way.
> >
> > Lew
> >
> >
> 1.21 a liter here in Toronto == 4.57/US Gallon approx.
> I am ignoring the currency exchange as they are so close right now.

I filled up yesterday morning at 1.12 a litre here in Saskatoon
yesterday morning. By 4 pm it was 1.19...

Rita and Neil Ward

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Feb 25, 2011, 3:59:49 PM2/25/11
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Don't bet on it, $3.35 in Winslow, Indiana: was 2.99 last week in
Evansville.

FrozenNorth

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Feb 25, 2011, 4:09:41 PM2/25/11
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I filled up Wednesday at 1.17, thought pouring $69 into the tank was
crazy, then saw $1.21 Thursday and realized it would have been $70.

Josepi

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Feb 25, 2011, 4:12:58 PM2/25/11
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Yup! At $5.45 per gallon we got to get a new gallon.

-----------------------------------

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Dave In Texas

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Feb 25, 2011, 4:22:37 PM2/25/11
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"Lew Hodgett" <sails...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.
>
> Look out $5/gal, headed your way.

You're sensationalizing it.

Dave in Houston

FrozenNorth

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Feb 25, 2011, 4:34:35 PM2/25/11
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No it is speculators and stupid panic over what is going on in the
middle east and north Africa that is causing this. Once Gadhaffi
gets run out of Libya it will settle back down.

Artemus

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Feb 25, 2011, 4:36:41 PM2/25/11
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"Lew Hodgett" <sails...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.
>
> Look out $5/gal, headed your way.
>
> Lew
>
>
National (USA) price map
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx

Local prices
http://gasbuddy.com/
Art

Lew Hodgett

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Feb 25, 2011, 4:38:10 PM2/25/11
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"Doug Miller" wrote:

> Must suck to be in SoCal. I saw $3.13 in Indianapolis on the way to
> work this
> morning...

-----------------------
Even if Indy paid me to come and have the gas given to me, Indiana
would not be on my list of places to visit, even to see the relatives.

Life is just too short.

Lew


Robatoy

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Feb 25, 2011, 4:42:21 PM2/25/11
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On Feb 25, 4:34 pm, FrozenNorth <frozenNorth...@gm.nospam.ail.com>
wrote:

> On 2/25/11 4:22 PM, Dave In Texas wrote:
>
> > "Lew Hodgett" <sails.m...@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >news:4d67f972$0$15321$c3e8da3$4605...@news.astraweb.com...
> >> Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.
>
> >> Look out $5/gal, headed your way.
>
> > You're sensationalizing it.
>
> No it is speculators and stupid panic over what is going on in the
> middle east and north Africa that is causing this.  Once Gadhaffi
> gets run out of Libya it will settle back down.
>

Who knows how many are dying in the streets in Tripoli. And Obama is "
going to talk to some UN people on Monday."
I wish he'd grow a pair.

Nova

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Feb 25, 2011, 5:10:09 PM2/25/11
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:48:18 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<sails...@verizon.net> wrote:

Between $3.12 on the Indian Reservations to $3.59 at local Mobile
stations in the Buffalo, NY area.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

David Paste

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Feb 25, 2011, 5:32:07 PM2/25/11
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USD 7.63 / US gallon here in England...

I'm going to dig out my bicycle and walking shoes!

Han

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Feb 25, 2011, 5:33:09 PM2/25/11
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"Joe AutoDrill" <auto...@yunx.com> wrote in news:GZT9p.16375$Y63.5222
@newsfe02.iad:

> Just to rub it in... $2.89 here in NJ if I travel to it.
>
> http://www.newjerseygasprices.com/
>

Not in 07410 - ~$3.15.

I could also find gasprices in Mass by entering a zipcode, and they are
pretty correct too - ~$3.20 around Somerville

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Han
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Doug Miller

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Feb 25, 2011, 5:53:08 PM2/25/11
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Oddly enough, that's exactly what many people in the Midwest think of LA. :-)

Matt

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Feb 25, 2011, 5:55:55 PM2/25/11
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3.25.9 500 miles to the east, in Phoenix.

Morgans

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"David Paste" <paste...@gmail.com> wrote

>
> I'm going to dig out my bicycle and walking shoes!

I vowed to drive 55 today, to get better mileage on my full sized van.

We will see if it lasts, cause "I can't drive 55!"
--
Jim in NC


Lew Hodgett

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Feb 25, 2011, 7:27:45 PM2/25/11
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"Han" wrote:

>> http://www.newjerseygasprices.com/
>>
> Not in 07410 - ~$3.15.
>
> I could also find gasprices in Mass by entering a zipcode, and they
> are
> pretty correct too - ~$3.20 around Somerville

----------------------------
gasbuddy.com does a pretty good job.

Lew


Lew Hodgett

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Feb 25, 2011, 7:32:11 PM2/25/11
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"Robatoy" wrote:

> Who knows how many are dying in the streets in Tripoli. And Obama is
> "
going to talk to some UN people on Monday."
I wish he'd grow a pair.

---------------------------
I suspect that is for public consumption.

There are still a lot of foreigners trying to get out, including a
ferry boat full of US citizens.

Once out, new ball in play.

Lew


Lew Hodgett

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Feb 25, 2011, 7:34:51 PM2/25/11
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"FrozenNorth" wrote:
> No it is speculators and stupid panic over what is going on in the
> middle east and north Africa that is causing this. Once Gadhaffi
> gets run out of Libya it will settle back down.
----------------
Until the next time, meanwhile we allow our demand for oil to bleed
our piggy bank dry.

Lew


Thos

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Feb 25, 2011, 7:47:50 PM2/25/11
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$3.19 here in Dallas. I filled my Silverado this evening.
$74.+

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Robatoy

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Feb 25, 2011, 8:05:01 PM2/25/11
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On Feb 25, 7:32 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <sails.m...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote:
> > Who knows how many are dying in the streets in Tripoli. And Obama is
> > "
>
> going to talk to some UN people on Monday."
> I wish he'd grow a pair.
> ---------------------------
> I suspect that is for public consumption.

Well, shit... Lybia has over 1000 miles of coastline which would be
hard to defend. Get some boys out there and clean up those
mercenaries.


>
> There are still a lot of foreigners trying to get out, including a
> ferry boat full of US citizens.
>
> Once out, new ball in play.

There are a LOT of nationalities trying to get out. Hang onto your new
ball at least long enough for them to get out too.
>
> Lew

tiredofspam

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Feb 25, 2011, 8:08:49 PM2/25/11
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Nor here in western NJ at 3.15

Markem

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Feb 25, 2011, 9:35:47 PM2/25/11
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:05:01 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<counte...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 25, 7:32 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <sails.m...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>> > Who knows how many are dying in the streets in Tripoli. And Obama is
>> > "
>>
>> going to talk to some UN people on Monday."
>> I wish he'd grow a pair.
>> ---------------------------
>> I suspect that is for public consumption.
>
>Well, shit... Lybia has over 1000 miles of coastline which would be
>hard to defend. Get some boys out there and clean up those
>mercenaries.

We seem to be spread thin.

>>
>> There are still a lot of foreigners trying to get out, including a
>> ferry boat full of US citizens.
>>
>> Once out, new ball in play.
>
>There are a LOT of nationalities trying to get out. Hang onto your new
>ball at least long enough for them to get out too.

Perhaps the Italy will do something after all it is just a short hop.

Mark

WW

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Feb 25, 2011, 10:18:28 PM2/25/11
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"Lew Hodgett" <sails...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.
>
> Look out $5/gal, headed your way.
>
> Lew
>
>$3.05 yesterday in Caon City, Co..

My Ford van has a 35 gallon tank It is parked. Driving a different vehicle
WW


Larry Jaques

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:04:04 -0500, Chuck <chbac...@attt.net> wrote:

>On 2/25/2011 1:48 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.
>>
>> Look out $5/gal, headed your way.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>

>Still $3.19 here in S. Fl.

I just paid that the day before yesterday at Fred Meyer in Oregon. It
was $3.29 but I get a ten cent discount for shopping at Freddy.
GasBuddy has it at $3.39 today! Up a nickel a day?

--
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--Jack London

Larry Jaques

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Feb 26, 2011, 1:23:50 AM2/26/11
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<blink, blink> I read the headline about rioters, rushing from their
Islamic mosques, being fired upon today. Perhaps I don't know the
whole story, but is it wrong to stop rioting in your country? I was
kinda proud of old Daffy, the hateful old effer. I'd rather it wasn't
radical fundamentalist muslims who ousted him, if you don't mind.

Larry Jaques

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Feb 26, 2011, 1:27:20 AM2/26/11
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Hehehe. Nor can I. Besides, I get better gas mileage at 80.
Then again, I've put only 22k miles on the new truck in 3.25 years, so
I'm not a big gas user. If someone gave me an electric car for my
grocery shoppoing, I'd use it exclusively when possible. But I can't
get 500 pounds of tools + a ton of wood/concrete/steel in one like I
can with the Tundra.

Dave In Texas

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Feb 26, 2011, 7:35:16 AM2/26/11
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From this morning's NYTimes.
Attack Shuts Iraq's Largest Refinery:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/02/25/world/middleeast/AP-ML-Iraq.html?hp

Dave in Houston

Swingman

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Feb 26, 2011, 7:47:24 AM2/26/11
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Not a big surprise, or much newsworthy, about Iraq's oil production
being way below capacity.

What is newsworthy is that for once the NYT didn't report oil doom
figures in their usual gallons.

--
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Last update: 4/15/2010
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Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 26, 2011, 8:12:27 AM2/26/11
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...

> On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:27:10 -0500, "Morgans"
> <jsmo...@charterJUNK.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"David Paste" <paste...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>> I'm going to dig out my bicycle and walking shoes!
>>
>>I vowed to drive 55 today, to get better mileage on my full sized van.
>>
>>We will see if it lasts, cause "I can't drive 55!"

One of my cars gives an instant readout for the MPG. I picked a flat
stretch of highway on my daily commute and every day drove at a different
speed to see what the effect would be. I could to 75, 70, 65, 60, but at
55, it was a danger to be on the road. I never did get a comparative
reading. Best MPG was 60.

David Paste

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On Feb 26, 12:27 am, "Morgans" <jsmor...@charterJUNK.net> wrote:
> "David Paste" <pasteda...@gmail.com> wrote

I have similar ludicrous fantasies! Motorways are there for a reason,
as are gas pedals!

Leon

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Feb 26, 2011, 9:12:08 PM2/26/11
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"Lew Hodgett" <sails...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.
>
> Look out $5/gal, headed your way.
>
> Lew
>
>

You California people will buy anything. ;~)


willshak

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Feb 27, 2011, 8:53:37 AM2/27/11
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Lew Hodgett wrote the following:

> Cleared $4/gal in SoCal today.
>
> Look out $5/gal, headed your way.
>
> Lew

$3.499 yesterday here in sig below.

--

Bill
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In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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charlie b

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Mar 1, 2011, 1:40:39 AM3/1/11
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$3.80 in South San Francisco (Santa Clara County).

Lew Hodgett

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"charlie b" wrote:

> $3.80 in South San Francisco (Santa Clara County).

Premium is running $3.84-$4.35 for South San Francisco (Santa Clara
County).

Can $5 be far behind?

Lew

Larry Jaques

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Mar 1, 2011, 9:43:26 AM3/1/11
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Just be patient, Lew. You'll get your sordid price soon.

--
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you've understood all your life, but in a new way.
-- Doris Lessing

Lew Hodgett

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Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon
(02/26/11).

Today, 3 days later (03/01/11), it is $3.65/gal.

Add $0.20/gal for premium.

And the crick keeps on ris'n per the late Johnny Cash.

Lew


David Paste

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Has just topped $8/US gal over here, fwiw.

Larry W

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Mar 1, 2011, 8:19:42 PM3/1/11
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In article <4d6d8b69$0$28727$c3e8da3$c8b7...@news.astraweb.com>,

Don't the gas stations post the price on big signs where you live? I get
a daily update of gasoline prices every day on my drive to work, without
having to check usenet.


--
There are no stupid questions, but there are lots of stupid answers.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

Lew Hodgett

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"Larry W" wrote:

> Don't the gas stations post the price on big signs where you live? I
> get
> a daily update of gasoline prices every day on my drive to work,
> without
> having to check usenet.

---------------------------------
You are assuming that I leave my home/office every day.

The days of my pounding the pavement are long gone.

Lew


Doug Miller

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Mar 1, 2011, 10:14:04 PM3/1/11
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In article <4d6da30a$0$15220$c3e8da3$4605...@news.astraweb.com>, "Lew Hodgett" <sails...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Larry W" wrote:
>
>> Don't the gas stations post the price on big signs where you live? I
>> get
>> a daily update of gasoline prices every day on my drive to work,
>> without
>> having to check usenet.
>---------------------------------
>You are assuming that I leave my home/office every day.
>
Did that one ruffle your hair any as it flew over your head?

Bill

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On 3/1/2011 7:12 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash& carry Arco on Friday afternoon

> (02/26/11).
>
> Today, 3 days later (03/01/11), it is $3.65/gal.
>
> Add $0.20/gal for premium.
>
> And the crick keeps on ris'n per the late Johnny Cash.
>
> Lew
>
>

From $2.93 two weeks ago to $3.65 here in Indianapolis (Big-Gulp--pun
intended). Up 24.5%

Bill

Lew Hodgett

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Mar 4, 2011, 3:32:15 PM3/4/11
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

> Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon
> (02/26/11).

Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/04/11).

Gas is $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon
> (03/04/11).

And the crick still keeps on ris'n per the late Johnny Cash.

Lew


cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 4, 2011, 3:54:55 PM3/4/11
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Up here in Waterloo Ontario it's $4.65 for the equivalent Yankee
short gallon today, for regular, and $5.02 for premium.

Larry Jaques

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Mar 4, 2011, 5:46:40 PM3/4/11
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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:32:15 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<sails...@verizon.net> wrote:

Tell us something we -didn't- know, Lew.

--
The art of life lies in a constant readjustment to our surroundings.
-- Okakura Kakuzo

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:32:15 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" <sails...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>


>"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>
>> Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon
>> (02/26/11).
>
>Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/04/11).
>
>Gas is $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon
>> (03/04/11).

Tuesday/Wednesday sometime between 6:00PM and 6:30AM gas went up $.15/gal here
($3.25 to $3.40). It was about $2.75 just a couple of weeks ago.

>And the crick still keeps on ris'n per the late Johnny Cash.

It isn't done yet, and Obama is smiling.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 4, 2011, 8:08:05 PM3/4/11
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You think OBAMA is smiling???

What aboutBush and all his Texas Oilman cronies??????

Lew Hodgett

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Mar 4, 2011, 8:34:20 PM3/4/11
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

> Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon
> (02/26/11).

>Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/04/11).

Gas is $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon
> (03/04/11).
>
>And the crick still keeps on ris'n per the late Johnny Cash.

-------------------------------------
"Larry Jaques" wrote:

> Tell us something we -didn't- know, Lew.

-------------------------------
That is a task far beyond the time and energy assets that any mortal
including myself possesses.

BTW, it was $3.77/gal during a drive by this afternoon.

Lew


k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Mar 4, 2011, 8:52:37 PM3/4/11
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Certainly. It's well on its way to $4, and beyond.

>What aboutBush and all his Texas Oilman cronies??????

What about him? Have you forgotten that he isn't the President?

djcordes

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<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
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Here on Thursday 10 am I paid $3.47 at 8 pm it was $3.67. I'm glad I was out
in the am to gas up!

Dan


Larry Jaques

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Mar 5, 2011, 1:23:26 AM3/5/11
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Oh, do you mean to tell us that the price of gas is going up?
Imagine that!

--
Life is full of little surprises.
--Pandora

Larry W

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In article <7ml3n6l4ia1rpb9a8...@4ax.com>,

As far as the creeks, they usually start rising EVERY year around this time.

--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 19:52:37 -0600, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

Nope, but I'll bet the bugger is smiling all the way to the bank.

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Yeah, his book royalties must be pretty good.

HeyBub

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Mar 6, 2011, 7:41:58 AM3/6/11
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cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>
>> It isn't done yet, and Obama is smiling.
> You think OBAMA is smiling???

Uh, yeah.

He's the nation's number one cheerleader for mass transit. 'Course growing
up in Chicago (with the "El") and now living in D.C. (with the Metro),
that's all he knows. He has no concept of how far it is from the farm to the
nearest big city (i.e., Tupelo, Miss).

>
> What aboutBush and all his Texas Oilman cronies??????

With regard to gas prices, don't you wish Bush was still president?


cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 6, 2011, 3:24:54 PM3/6/11
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:41:58 -0600, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
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You REALLY think Bushy being president would give you lower gas
prices???
You still have lower gas prices than better than 90% of the world -
and if Bushy was still president you'd likely be fighting more wars,
disrupting more oil production, making the prices even higher, not
only for you but the rest of the world.


$4.73 US per US gallon for regular this morning, and not in
Obama-land.

HeyBub

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Mar 6, 2011, 3:58:08 PM3/6/11
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cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What aboutBush and all his Texas Oilman cronies??????
>>
>> With regard to gas prices, don't you wish Bush was still president?
>>
> You REALLY think Bushy being president would give you lower gas
> prices???

## Sure. Doesn't everyone?

> You still have lower gas prices than better than 90% of the world -
> and if Bushy was still president you'd likely be fighting more wars,
> disrupting more oil production, making the prices even higher, not
> only for you but the rest of the world.

## And I care what the rest of the world pays because?

True, we might be fighting more wars and killing more Mohammadens, but we'd
have drilling in the Gulf, ANWAR, and downtown San Francisco (the purpose of
the latter is to drive liberals nuts, not necessarily to find oil).

>
>
> $4.73 US per US gallon for regular this morning, and not in
> Obama-land.

Wherever that is. In my part of "not-Obama-land" (Texas, it's about $3.15).


cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 6, 2011, 5:21:40 PM3/6/11
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:58:08 -0600, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
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Typical Yank stupidity - you don't give a crap about the rest of the
world and you wonder why they hate your guts enough to send suicide
bombers after you.

$4.73 per US gallon in Central Ontario, Canada - about80 miles from
Buffalo.

Swingman

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On 3/6/2011 4:21 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:

> Typical Yank stupidity - you don't give a crap about the rest of the
> world and you wonder why they hate your guts enough to send suicide
> bombers after you.

And "they" love you because you're not stupid, eh?

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Terror+Canada+Primer/3455087/story.html

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/808237--spy-agency-csis-warns-of-homegrown-terror-in-canada

http://www.mackenzieinstitute.com/2002/terror070202.htm

Yeah, right ...

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Josepi

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Mar 6, 2011, 6:21:19 PM3/6/11
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Maybe the USanians could all be allowed to bear arms and protect themselves.

Perhaps then they could catch terrorists the way Canadians have in the
reports.

...and then their Muslim president...

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Mike Marlow

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Mar 6, 2011, 8:28:16 PM3/6/11
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cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:

>>
> Typical Yank stupidity - you don't give a crap about the rest of the
> world and you wonder why they hate your guts enough to send suicide
> bombers after you.
>
> $4.73 per US gallon in Central Ontario, Canada - about80 miles from
> Buffalo.

Come on Clare - "the rest of the world" pays more for gas because of all of
the taxes they load on a gallon of gas, to fund their social programs. Why
should folks in the US care what people in Great Brittain or anywhere else
pay - we don't benefit from those programs. The US is not responsible for
the price of gas in other parts of the world.

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Upscale

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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlo...@windstream.net> wrote in message

> pay - we don't benefit from those programs. The US is not responsible for
> the price of gas in other parts of the world.

Maybe the US is responsible at least partly, but not for the reasons you're
discussing. The US consumes the largest amount of oil in the world by almost
3x the amount of the second largest user which is China. I wonder
hypothetically if the US stopped using oil altogether, would the glut of oil
on the world market cause a price reduction by the other oil producing
countries.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_con-energy-oil-consumption


Markem

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Mar 6, 2011, 8:47:39 PM3/6/11
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:43:28 -0500, "Upscale" <ups...@teksavvy.com>
wrote:

We also drew heavily upon our oil stocks to feed the Allied war
machine.

But we are a bit piggy when it come to using oil.

Mark

Mike Marlow

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Mar 6, 2011, 9:13:16 PM3/6/11
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Upscale wrote:
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlo...@windstream.net> wrote in message
>> pay - we don't benefit from those programs. The US is not
>> responsible for the price of gas in other parts of the world.
>
> Maybe the US is responsible at least partly, but not for the reasons
> you're discussing. The US consumes the largest amount of oil in the
> world by almost 3x the amount of the second largest user which is
> China. I wonder hypothetically if the US stopped using oil
> altogether, would the glut of oil on the world market cause a price
> reduction by the other oil producing countries.
>

I imagine it would. Supply, demand and all that. Of course there is a
solution to that problem for other countries - start drving more...

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Upscale

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Mar 6, 2011, 9:44:55 PM3/6/11
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlo...@windstream.net> wrote in message
> I imagine it would. Supply, demand and all that. Of course there is a
> solution to that problem for other countries - start drving more...

Everytime I see comments about gas prices, I flashback to early sixties in
Montreal when I was a kid. Gas prices were $0.30 a gallon, bus tickets were
7.1/2 cents and chocolate bars were 10 cents. Too bad we can't travel back,
buy our gas and then flash forward. Of course it would be leaded gas, but
that would be fine for the Shelby Cobra I'd have stowed away somewhere. :)


Mike Marlow

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Mar 6, 2011, 10:08:46 PM3/6/11
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It's a sign of our advancing years. We've got Lew talking about $0.25 packs
of cigarettes, some of us remembering $0.25 gallons of gasoline, etc. The
problem is that we... remember them...

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k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Mar 6, 2011, 10:11:38 PM3/6/11
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Look at the bright side; at least we still can.

Nova

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Mar 6, 2011, 10:16:33 PM3/6/11
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:43:28 -0500, "Upscale" <ups...@teksavvy.com>
wrote:

>

The figures you cited are from 2007. China is still second in oil
consumption but for the last couple of years has been catching up
fast.

http://www.icis.com/Articles/2010/11/02/9406454/china-oil-demand-to-gallop-on-strong-econ-growth-iea.html
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Doug Miller

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Mar 6, 2011, 10:32:22 PM3/6/11
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>$4.73 per US gallon in Central Ontario, Canada - about80 miles from
>Buffalo.

It's your own fault -- I mean Canadians collectively, not you personally --
that gas is so much more expensive in Canada than in the U.S.

The difference is due *entirely* to taxes.

HeyBub

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Mar 6, 2011, 11:17:57 PM3/6/11
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cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>
>> Wherever that is. In my part of "not-Obama-land" (Texas, it's about
>> $3.15).
>>
> Typical Yank stupidity - you don't give a crap about the rest of the
> world and you wonder why they hate your guts enough to send suicide
> bombers after you.
>

I couldn't have said it better: I (we) do not give a crap what others think
of us.

I cannot control what others think of me or my country, nor will I conform
my actions in hopes of approbation.

We are what we are and if others don't like it, they own the problem.

Regarding suicide "killers" (not just bombers), they CAN be dealt with. In
the decade of the 90s, we suffered about one terrorist attack per year (1st
WTC bombing, attacks on our embassies, the USS Cole, kidnapping ambassadors,
9-11, etc.).

As a result of 9-11, the strategy of the U.S. has been to prevent another
attack on the U.S. or U.S. interests abroad. This was quite successful in
that for ten years there was not a single offense against our territory or
to our interests abroad.

It didn't last.

There have been three such incidents in the current administration as the
president implemented a policy - of which you no doubt approve - of
adjusting our international words and actions to garner love.


HeyBub

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Mar 6, 2011, 11:20:27 PM3/6/11
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Gasoline is cheaper today - in inflation-adjusted dollars - than it has been
at any time since 1918 (except for a brief spike in the Carter
administration).


ChairMan

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In news:GcGdnTn-4bfqwenQ...@earthlink.com,
HeyBub <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> spewed forth:

but yet it hasn't changed how people feel about the US....imagine dat<g>
I kin feel da love......


Bob Martin

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Mar 7, 2011, 2:56:59 AM3/7/11
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I just paid 49.51 GBP for 36.7 litres - that's about $8.33 per US gallon

Robatoy

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Mar 7, 2011, 7:31:29 AM3/7/11
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Ouch! $4.71 per US gallon here in Canuckistani dollars (pretty much at
par with US$)

Han

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Robatoy <counte...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:54d39af8-b456-4b1c...@v11g2000prb.googlegroups.com:

> On Mar 7, 2:56 am, Bob Martin <bob.mar...@excite.com> wrote:
>> in 1493648 20110306 202454 cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>

<snip>


>>
>> I just paid 49.51 GBP for 36.7 litres - that's about $8.33 per US
>> gallon
>
> Ouch! $4.71 per US gallon here in Canuckistani dollars (pretty much at
> par with US$)

It's always been roughly twice in Europe than in the US. Cheapest around
07410 is US$3.27 (regular, cash only).

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Mike Marlow

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Mar 7, 2011, 9:22:46 AM3/7/11
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Han wrote:

>
> It's always been roughly twice in Europe than in the US. Cheapest
> around 07410 is US$3.27 (regular, cash only).

You still have pricing differences for cash vs credit card? I haven't seen
that around here in a long time. FWIW, I just paid $3.69 for the cheap
stuff in Central NY, yesterday.


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Robatoy

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Mar 7, 2011, 9:26:27 AM3/7/11
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> mmarlowREM...@windstream.net

That price difference should be available to whomever decided to pay
cash.
If the dealer (furniture, whatever) is willing to pay a credit card
company 3 1/2% then he should give that as a discount for cash.
Problem is... bankers don't like things to happen in cash..neither
does the IRS (Revenue Canada).

Han

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Mar 7, 2011, 9:49:03 AM3/7/11
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlo...@windstream.net> wrote in
news:e0897$4d74e9b2$adbc2fcd$28...@ALLTEL.NET:

> Han wrote:
>
>>
>> It's always been roughly twice in Europe than in the US. Cheapest
>> around 07410 is US$3.27 (regular, cash only).
>
> You still have pricing differences for cash vs credit card? I haven't
> seen that around here in a long time. FWIW, I just paid $3.69 for the
> cheap stuff in Central NY, yesterday.

I don't see many cash vs credit differences, but the cheaper ones still do
here (07410) and there (02143). NY is always more expensive than NJ. Lets
not talk about CT ...

Han

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Robatoy <counte...@gmail.com> wrote in
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I asked some merchant about that. They said that the hassles of
handling cash (bank charges for depositing cash around here!) were
almost more than the cost of credit.

Dave In Texas

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Mar 7, 2011, 10:12:42 AM3/7/11
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlo...@windstream.net> wrote in message
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> Han wrote:
>
>>
>> It's always been roughly twice in Europe than in the US. Cheapest
>> around 07410 is US$3.27 (regular, cash only).
>
> You still have pricing differences for cash vs credit card? I haven't
> seen that around here in a long time. FWIW, I just paid $3.69 for the
> cheap stuff in Central NY, yesterday.

The Loves truck stops here in Texas do, a nickel/gallon at the ones I
pass between Houston and San Antonio on I-10.
Diesel was $3.749 cash and 3.799 credit.

Dave in Houston

Robatoy

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Mar 7, 2011, 10:13:57 AM3/7/11
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On Mar 7, 9:51 am, Han <nob...@nospam.not> wrote:

A cashless society is forced upon us by the Bankers. That makes it so
much easier to control us peasants.

Dave Balderstone

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In article
<b09335a0-6d75-40c3...@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
Robatoy <counte...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That price difference should be available to whomever decided to pay
> cash.
> If the dealer (furniture, whatever) is willing to pay a credit card
> company 3 1/2% then he should give that as a discount for cash.
> Problem is... bankers don't like things to happen in cash..neither
> does the IRS (Revenue Canada).

The credit card companies make that impossible for the merchant. Give a
cash discount, you can't accept our card.

Some, like Canadian Tire, get around it by using coupons, etc (ie:
CanTire Money) to non-credit card customers.

Lew Hodgett

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Mar 7, 2011, 6:01:49 PM3/7/11
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"Mike Marlow" wrote:

> You still have pricing differences for cash vs credit card? I
> haven't seen that around here in a long time.

------------------------------
Arco, a unit of BP, operates the only cash and carry game in town.

They basically sell 87 octane at about $0.20/gal less than the
competition.

Want to use a credit card, fine, just add about $0.50 surcharge.

Lew


cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 7, 2011, 9:31:22 PM3/7/11
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It's not all texes, buster.
In 1973 I was paying $1.65 a liter for gas that was, at best, 85
octane. Shipping cost was about half the cost - and then tax on top of
that. (landlocked central african country with no refineries)
ANd no social programs paid for by the taxes either.
Just one lane of blacktop most of the way across a country just a
touch larger than texas (290585 sq miles)

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 7, 2011, 9:35:51 PM3/7/11
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 03:32:22 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

Which need to be paid to keep up the roads that connect 1/10 the
population of the USA over an area slightly larger than the size of
the USA.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 7, 2011, 9:38:46 PM3/7/11
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Up here it is pretty much a wash if you are going to bank the cash.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 7, 2011, 9:39:49 PM3/7/11
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and giving 2 cents per liter discount when you DO use THEIR card.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 7, 2011, 10:42:54 PM3/7/11
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"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote

>
> The credit card companies make that impossible for the merchant. Give a
> cash discount, you can't accept our card.
>
> Some, like Canadian Tire, get around it by using coupons, etc (ie:
> CanTire Money) to non-credit card customers.

Here (US) you cannot charge more for a CC but you can discount for cash.
There are a couple of businesses I patronize to get the discount.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 7, 2011, 10:45:03 PM3/7/11
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"Han" <nob...@nospam.not> wrote

>
> I don't see many cash vs credit differences, but the cheaper ones still do
> here (07410) and there (02143). NY is always more expensive than NJ.
> Lets
> not talk about CT ...
>
Today in my town, regular is 3.679, diesel is $4.199 New governor wants to
add 3¢ more too. I work is MA so it is not so much of a problem.

Doug Miller

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Mar 7, 2011, 11:01:09 PM3/7/11
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1/9 the population, actually (34M vs. 313M), but who's counting? And although
you have a larger land area, we have a *lot* more road than you do (6.5M km vs
1M km).

Source:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ca.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html

Anyway, how come you're not using high speed rail? I thought that was supposed
to be the salvation of the universe.

Mike Marlow

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Mar 7, 2011, 11:30:48 PM3/7/11
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I wonder if it's a legal thing. Somewhere in the dark recesses of my feeble
mind, I think I might recall that NY outlawed that kind of pricing decades
ago... but I'm not really sure. All I know is that you don't see a lot of
it - or any of it in NY anymore.

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Mike Marlow

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Mar 7, 2011, 11:32:34 PM3/7/11
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Ok - you got me. Gee - it's not *all* taxes. Still not any example of the
US causing those prices.
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