What is it? Set 416

[Rob H.]

This week's set is ready, I haven't changed anything here since the
newsgroup service provider said they would look into the problem of dropped
posts, hopefully they have it figured out by now.

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

[David B]

"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote in message
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That's the first original post I've seen by yourself in months, so looks
like ES have sorted it.

D

[Alexander Thesoso]

2407 I'll guess an air-compressor. Belt driven from the flywheel. The
cooling fins are what make me think it is a compressor, rather than an
air motor.

[Snag]

I believe #2412 is a blowtorch for use with a lead pot . Plumbers useta
use them for making joints in cast iron drain pipes .
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Learning keeps
you young !

[Snag]

[Rob H.]

"David B" <askfo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Glad to hear that they fixed the problem!

[Stormin Mormon]

I see you..... which is good.

2407. I'm guessing a model of a steam engine.
2408. I'd just be guessing. Ether a garden implement, or
something for sorting or carding wool?
2409. No clue.
2410. The coiled handle is often used for iron working and
hot areas, the handle cools down faster. Beyond that.... no
clue.
2411. Something for wool carding?
2412. some kind of pressurized liquid fuel torch. Beyond
that.....


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"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote in message
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[DanG]

I did not do well on any of this puzzle's mysteries other than the blow
torch
I agree with Snag about the plumber's lead pot. Here is an overly
simple picture:
http://www.tpub.com/content/construction/14265/css/14265_81.htm

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Dan G

[Willem]

Rob H. wrote:
)
) "David B" <askfo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
) news:jal5i6$gkp$1...@dont-email.me...
)> "Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote in message
)> news:<jal45...@news3.newsguy.com>...
)>> This week's set is ready, I haven't changed anything here since the
)>> newsgroup service provider said they would look into the problem of
)>> dropped posts, hopefully they have it figured out by now.
)>>
)>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
)>>
)>>
)>> Rob
)>
)> That's the first original post I've seen by yourself in months, so looks
)> like ES have sorted it.
)>
)> D
)
)
) Glad to hear that they fixed the problem!

Except that in this post you wrote something different (the comment about
not having changed anything), so it wouldn't trigger the 'almost exact same
post' filter. By stating that you didn't do anything different, you did
something different. Heisenbug, indeed!


SaSW, Willem
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[Phil Kangas]

"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote in message

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2410: A welders chipping hammer. It is missing the
brush on
the back. No question about it. The chisel end has
been
ground to a point, it is usually a straight chisel
edge new.

[DanG]

I wonder if the #2411 is some type of carpet stretcher


Yep, found one on Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-Carpet-Stretcher-PATD-1889-CM-Mallory-Albion-NY-/360394470684

[willshak]

Rob H. wrote the following:

2410 appears to be a slag remover for a welder.

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[Rob H.]

>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2410: A welders chipping hammer. It is missing the
> brush on
> the back. No question about it. The chisel end has
> been
> ground to a point, it is usually a straight chisel
> edge new.

This is correct, some people also call it a welders slag hammer.

[Rob H.]

> 2408. I'd just be guessing. Ether a garden implement, or
> something for sorting or carding wool?

I'm also thinking it's a garden tool but I don't know the purpose of the
part attached to the springs, unless it's to level the soil but that's just
a guess.

[Walter Kraft]

2412 is a blowtorch for use to preheat an old traktor engine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5vukm13lis

[Rob H.]

>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> I believe #2412 is a blowtorch for use with a lead pot . Plumbers
>> useta
>> use them for making joints in cast iron drain pipes .
>
> I did not do well on any of this puzzle's mysteries other than the blow
> torch
> I agree with Snag about the plumber's lead pot. Here is an overly simple
> picture:
> http://www.tpub.com/content/construction/14265/css/14265_81.htm

I'm sure it could also be used by a plumber but according to the owner it
was used for a different purpose other than soldering or melting lead.

[e]

2407: stirling cycle engine

[Robin Halligan]

Well i can see it Rob so it looks like it worked wooo hoo

[Rob H.]

"Walter Kraft" <aurelia...@web.de> wrote in message
news:4ece738e$0$6625$9b4e...@newsspool2.arcor-online.net...

> 2412 is a blowtorch for use to preheat an old traktor engine:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5vukm13lis

Yes, the owner said it was for preheating the early Hit/miss oil field
gasoline engines. Thanks for the link, I couldn't find another one of these
torches on the web.

[Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable)]

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 04:53:17 -0500, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com>
wrote:

2407 - Stirling engine
2408 - Looks like the bar is to knock down whatever you are collecting
with the tines. Hand collecting grain?
2409 - Best guess, a crimper for decorative metal foil ribbon.
2410 - Yup, Welder's Slag Hammer with a reground tip and no brush.
2411 - Wool carding hand tool
2412 - Vertical gasoline blowtorch - for a lead melting pot or other
stationary uses.

[Alexander Thesoso]

2407 A couple of people have stated that this is a Stirling engine. I
was led to discount that possibility because of 2 factors:
Both cylinders seem to have cooling fins, while one cylinder of a
Stirling engine is heated.
The pistons, unless there is an interesting gear arrangement in the
middle, seem to be 180 degrees out of phase, rather than 90 degrees for
a Stirling engine.
If this is a Stirling engine, can someone explain how it works?

[Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable)]

I'd need to see it up closer, because that sure looks like an alcohol
burner in the middle at first glance... but two cylinder Stirling
with the hot sections common in the middle.

--<< Bruce >>--

[dpb]

On 11/24/2011 3:53 AM, Rob H. wrote:
First is an Essex air engine...sold as toys in old Monkey-Ward cagalog
and larger versions used for light power applications--arcade games
amongst them.

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[dpb]

Here's a page of interest re:

<http://www.stirlingengines.org.uk/manufact/manf/usa/ess.html>

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[Rob H.]

"dpb" <no...@non.net> wrote in message news:jamgd7$m38$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

Yes, it's a hot air engine, 1/40th hp for running a fan or other light duty
devices.

[DoN. Nichols]

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2407) Looks like a Stirling heat engine. Not sure what it is
intended to power but the groove on the flywheel looks like a
match for the belt on the old foot treadle powered sewing
machines, which would be a reasonable load for this kind of
engine.

2408) Perhaps for digging up potatos.

2409) Looks like something to feed and (perhaps split) some ribbon
form of workpiece. It feeds through the pair of gears with
grooves. Whether it feeds out the U-shaped guide shown on the
near side or feeds in through that is not yet clear. If the
width of the guide matches the width of the workpiece, then the
gears will punch two rows of holes near the edges of the
workpiece -- leaving it looking something like movie film.

2410) Perhaps a grate shaker for an old wood stove, or a coal fueled
furnace.

2411) No clue -- other than nasty to have sliding against your skin.
Perhaps part of a wool carding setup?

2412) Gasoline or kerosene fired heater -- looks like a modification
of the old plumber's blowtorch.

Now to post this and then go see what others have suggested.
(It does not help that the punkin' chunkin' TV special is on while I'm
typing. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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[Lobby Dosser]

"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote in message
news:jal45...@news3.newsguy.com...

> This week's set is ready, I haven't changed anything here since the
> newsgroup service provider said they would look into the problem of
> dropped posts, hopefully they have it figured out by now.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>

> Rob


They do! Thanks for putting up with this furor.

--
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When you can't find your way 'ome"

[Lobby Dosser]

"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jalkfv$962$1...@dont-email.me...

>I see you..... which is good.
>
> 2407. I'm guessing a model of a steam engine.
> 2408. I'd just be guessing. Ether a garden implement, or
> something for sorting or carding wool?
> 2409. No clue.
> 2410. The coiled handle is often used for iron working and

Coiled handle also use on fireplace pokers.

[J Burns]

On 11/24/11 4:53 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set is ready, I haven't changed anything here since the
> newsgroup service provider said they would look into the problem of
> dropped posts, hopefully they have it figured out by now.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

2408 looks good for controlling weeds that spread by stolons, such as
Bermuda (devil's) grass and English ivy. The blade would serve as a
depth gage so you won't damage desirable roots. The curved tines would
pull stolons above ground level so you can yank them out.

[Alexander Thesoso]

Thanks for the info.
The patent:
http://ip.com/patent/US723660
is particularly good, in that it is short and clearly explains how it
works. Tricky, using a loosely fitting displacer piston.

[phorbin]

In article <jal45...@news3.newsguy.com>, rhv...@gmailnospam.com
says...

> This week's set is ready, I haven't changed anything here since the
> newsgroup service provider said they would look into the problem of dropped
> posts, hopefully they have it figured out by now.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>

2408 Hand Harrow


2411 Ice Shaver with pick in the handle

[Rob H.]

>>On 11/24/2011 6:15 AM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>>> 2407 I'll guess an air-compressor. Belt driven from the flywheel. The
>>> cooling fins are what make me think it is a compressor, rather than an
>>> air motor.
>>>
>>> On 11/24/2011 4:53 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>> This week's set is ready, I haven't changed anything here since the
>>>> newsgroup service provider said they would look into the problem of
>>>> dropped posts, hopefully they have it figured out by now.
>>>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>
>
> I'd need to see it up closer, because that sure looks like an alcohol
> burner in the middle at first glance... but two cylinder Stirling
> with the hot sections common in the middle.

You're right about it being an alcohol burner in the middle, my answer for
this is that it's a hot air engine, I don't know if it's considered some
type of Stirling engine or not, I'll let someone else answer that question.

Still not sure about two of the items this week but the rest of the answers
can be seen here:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/11/set-416.html#answers


Rob

[dpb]

On 11/25/2011 4:13 PM, Rob H. wrote:
...

> You're right about it being an alcohol burner in the middle, my answer
> for this is that it's a hot air engine, I don't know if it's considered
> some type of Stirling engine or not, I'll let someone else answer that
> question.

...

Strictly speaking and by current convention, no.

'Stirling engine' should refer exclusively to a closed-cycle
regenerative heat engine with a permanently gaseous working fluid.

These aren't.

--

[Theodore Edward Stosterone]

>'Stirling engine' should refer exclusively to a closed-cycle
>regenerative heat engine with a permanently gaseous working fluid.

Hey, I resemble that remark.

-T.E.Stosterone

[DoN. Nichols]

On 2011-11-25, Rob H. <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:

>> I'd need to see it up closer, because that sure looks like an alcohol
>> burner in the middle at first glance... but two cylinder Stirling
>> with the hot sections common in the middle.
>
> You're right about it being an alcohol burner in the middle, my answer for
> this is that it's a hot air engine, I don't know if it's considered some
> type of Stirling engine or not, I'll let someone else answer that question.
>
> Still not sure about two of the items this week but the rest of the answers
> can be seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/11/set-416.html#answers

How about that! It actually says that running sewing machines
is one of its uses - and that was what I had suggested based on the
pulley groove being similar to the old foot-treadle operated sewing
machine which my grandmother had and which I played with as a kid.

[Nahmie]

On Nov 24, 3:53 am, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:
> This week's set is ready, I haven't changed anything here since the
> newsgroup service provider said they would look into the problem of dropped
> posts, hopefully they have it figured out by now.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

Rob,
Just a thought on 2408. May be a garden tool, but also makes me think
of something grab loose straw or hay with, as the tines look a little
light for digging in dirt.The sping loaded piece looks like something
to keep the tines from stabbing into unwanted areas, or to help push
stuff off of te tines.
nORM

[Carl G.]

"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote in message
news:jal45...@news3.newsguy.com...

> This week's set is ready, I haven't changed anything here since the
> newsgroup service provider said they would look into the problem of
> dropped posts, hopefully they have it figured out by now.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

My guess for 2409:

2409 looks a lot like a machine for bending rods or tubing. The crank would
feed the rod/tubing between the toothed wheels. The handle would control
the bend radius.

I also use Eternal September, and for the first time in months I saw Rob's
initial post.

Rob: Keep up the good work. Over 2000 objects, and you are still finding
interesting and puzzling objects. Thank you!

Carl G.

[Rob H.]

> 2409 looks a lot like a machine for bending rods or tubing. The crank
> would feed the rod/tubing between the toothed wheels. The handle would
> control the bend radius.

Sounds like a good use for it, I'll mention this to the owner and see what
he has to say.