We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place. The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2 frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the mirror is masticed to it.
What would you recomend for a backer board?
I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from sheet rock to no backer.
On Monday, November 12, 2012 1:55:08 PM UTC-8, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place. The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with the trim that was applied for the TV hole. The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2 frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole. Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from. I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the mirror is masticed to it. What would you recomend for a backer board? I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from sheet rock to no backer.
> On Monday, November 12, 2012 1:55:08 PM UTC-8, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place. The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with the trim that was applied for the TV hole. The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2 frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole. Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from. I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the mirror is masticed to it. What would you recomend for a backer board? I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from sheet rock to no backer.
<Keith_Nut...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place. >The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with >header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with >the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
>The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for >the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2 >frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
>Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
>I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the >mirror is masticed to it.
It shouldn't warp in the dry inside air, and it shouldn't get hot if
you use your fireplace correctly (flue open). DAMHIKT
>What would you recomend for a backer board?
>I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from >sheet rock to no backer.
MDF, aka Termite Barf. It's more stable. DO seal all faces and edges,
though. Are you going to make a hidden compartment, too?
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> MDF, aka Termite Barf. It's more stable. DO seal all faces and edges,
> though.
Why?
I mean, I know why, but it's overkill.
I've had mdf scraps sitting in my garage and shed for years and they look like the day I bought it, minus the mouse turns and spider webs.
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> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
> The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
> header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with
> the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
> The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
> the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
> frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
> Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
> I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
> mirror is masticed to it.
> What would you recomend for a backer board?
> I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from
> sheet rock to no backer.
Keith Nuttle wrote:
> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
> The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
> header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing
> with the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
> The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
> the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
> frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
> Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
> I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
> mirror is masticed to it.
> What would you recomend for a backer board?
> I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from
> sheet rock to no backer.
As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at least. If you just gotta have something behind it, sheetrock, MDF, particle board, OSB, plywood would all work. My preference would be sheetrock.
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> As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
> backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at
> least. If you just gotta have something behind it, sheetrock, MDF,
> particle board, OSB, plywood would all work. My preference would be
> sheetrock.
Even 1/4" plywood would be sufficient. The mirror does not need anything for rigidty, backings just protect against objects hitting the glass from behind - which is not a problem in this application. Keith - go look at the backings found on dressers and like objects with large mirrors. Look at those cheap mirrors that you hang on bedroom doors - cardboard backing - and...those are really thin, cheap mirrors.
> On 11/12/2012 3:55 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
>> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
>> The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
>> header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with
>> the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
>> The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
>> the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
>> frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
>> Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
>> I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
>> mirror is masticed to it.
>> What would you recomend for a backer board?
>> I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from
>> sheet rock to no backer.
> You should be talking to glass and mirror shop.
Thank you all for your responses. Since hopefully I will have the mirror installed tomorrow, this should be my last post with questions.
I have been working on this project for some time. Yes I have talked with the man at the place that is cutting the mirror for me. But you know how it is, you are doing something you want nice that you have never done before. You get it all straight on what you are going to do and then something comes up that makes you question what you decided.
Last item was the warped 1/2 plywood. I am going to go with MDF or similar composite wood. I had thought about sheet rock but because there will only be the 1X2 around the edges of the hole, I thought that over time the sheet rock edges would deteriorate and the mirror would become loose.
Yes I know there is stuff cut for this purpose but I have a lot of 1X2 scrap
>Keith Nuttle wrote:
>> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
>> The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
>> header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing
>> with the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
>> The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
>> the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
>> frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
>> Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
>> I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
>> mirror is masticed to it.
>> What would you recomend for a backer board?
>> I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from
>> sheet rock to no backer.
>As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a >backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at least.
Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
were no backing.
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> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:47:13 -0500, "dadiOH"<dad...@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
...
>> As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
>> backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at least.
> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
> were no backing.
...
Trip and fall _OVER_ the fireplace up into the TV niche above it????
> On 11/13/2012 9:59 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:47:13 -0500, "dadiOH"<dad...@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>>> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
> ...
>>> As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
>>> backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at
>>> least.
>> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
>> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
>> were no backing.
> ...
> Trip and fall _OVER_ the fireplace up into the TV niche above it????
dpb wrote:
> On 11/13/2012 9:59 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:47:13 -0500, "dadiOH"<dad...@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>>> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire
>>>> place. ...
>>> As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother
>>> with a backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial
>>> ones at least.
>> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
>> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if
>> there were no backing.
> ...
> Trip and fall _OVER_ the fireplace up into the TV niche above it????
> That's some "trip"... :)
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>> As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
>> backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at least.
> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
> were no backing.
You have a knack for exaggeration. :-p
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:34:24 -0600, -MIKE- <m...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
>> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
>> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
>> were no backing.
>You have a knack for exaggeration. :-p
Well, after a nice long shower, the bathroom is filled with steam and
people can't see where they're going. So naturally, he should protect
against anyone reaching out and putting their hand through the mirror.
Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:34:24 -0600, -MIKE- <m...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
>>> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
>>> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if
>>> there were no backing.
>> You have a knack for exaggeration. :-p
> Well, after a nice long shower, the bathroom is filled with steam and
> people can't see where they're going. So naturally, he should protect
> against anyone reaching out and putting their hand through the mirror.
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:34:24 -0600, -MIKE- <m...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
>>> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
>>> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
>>> were no backing.
>> You have a knack for exaggeration. :-p
> Well, after a nice long shower, the bathroom is filled with steam and
> people can't see where they're going. So naturally, he should protect
> against anyone reaching out and putting their hand through the mirror.
> :)
If you followed another recent thread on this very subject you'd see
that I advocated a mirror backing for that very reason. Moot point in
this matter, however.
The exaggeration I thought was obvious to anyone reading, was the part
about hacking ones hand off.
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> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:34:24 -0600, -MIKE- <m...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
>>> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
>>> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
>>> were no backing.
>> You have a knack for exaggeration. :-p
> Well, after a nice long shower, the bathroom is filled with steam and
> people can't see where they're going. So naturally, he should protect
> against anyone reaching out and putting their hand through the mirror.
> :)
OP: Will the backer board protect me from someone behind the mirror reaching through and pulling me into their dimension??
This should be the last on this particular project. I am great full that I have all of you to assist with these projects, as it allows me to do thing I have never done before.
To night I have all of the things necessary to install the mirror. However, I have a real bad head cold, the type that effect your equilibrium. Since this project is ladder work with a large mirror, I decided it would be best to wait until my equilibrium returns
> On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 4:21:11 PM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> If you followed another recent thread on this very subject ....
> Same thread, same poster, as on Oct 22nd. Maybe next month we'll get it again.
> That job should have been completed, already.
> Sonny
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> OP: Will the backer board protect me from someone behind the mirror
> reaching through and pulling me into their dimension??
No - however it has apparently already been determined that when they reach through, the mirror will shatter, and the shards will dismember them, making perhaps a bloody mess in the living room, but leaving you otherwise unscathed.
> To night I have all of the things necessary to install the mirror.
> However, I have a real bad head cold, the type that effect your
> equilibrium. Since this project is ladder work with a large mirror, I
> decided it would be best to wait until my equilibrium returns
There is no such thing as equilibrium on a ladder...
> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
> The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
> header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with
> the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
> The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
> the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
> frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
> Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
> I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
> mirror is masticed to it.
> What would you recomend for a backer board?
> I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from
> sheet rock to no backer.
