PING: Bill - How's the workbench coming along?

[Joe >]

Haven't seen a progress report since you were
curing the A/C problem.
I'd hoped to finish mine overe the long weekend,
but a mishap involving about 8" of particle board,
some ply behind that, and my hands slowed
me down.
Not all shop accidents are with tools.
Spent all day yesterday trying to get the vise
buried and edge trimmed out. Spent far too much
time trying to get 14' of board out of 8.
Should be done today.
-J

[Leon]

Shishhhhh, don't distract him. ;~)

[Joe >]

Awww....
That's half the fun.
:)

[Bill]

Thanks for your interest Joe. It sounds like your project is going
great. I hope you are planning to post pics! I conciously told myself I
would try to work on my project, rather than post about it--but thank
you for asking. : )

I have the legs and top cut, but decided I will recut the ends of the
top again after final assembly.

I also have glued and screwed an arbor to the pair of legs on the left
and and the pair of legs on the right. I got lots of (hours of) use out
of my combination square, including it's level, and clamps. It's not
rocket science, but there are a lot of things to measure, and I think
one of the vectors even points towards the moon! : )

Here's an amusing sub-story: In experimenting I was able to drive a
3 1/2" #10 deck screw almost 3" into a piece of 4by4, so I figured all
was well. So I had everything meticulously measured and clamped so that
the vector pointed toward the moon, and everything, and predrilled. I
used 1/8" drill bit which a gaggle of 3 at Menards agreed was a suitable
choice. Then I applied my glue, but the darn screws only went about
half way in! At that point what we might call, in technical terms, a
"mess". I got out the sponge, stripped screw heads, ended up trashing
the apron, etc.

Using my micrometer, the shanks on my screws are close to .15" (I
measured .148"). 1/8" is course, .125". The shanks of the screws
didn't want to pass through the 2by4 aprons!

So I bought a 3/16" drill bit, cut a new apron, measured and clamped
until the moon was in view again, re-predrilled, glued and screwed the
aprons on. Hand tightened. Those square holes on the ends of the deck
screws are supposed to rest parallel with the ground, aren't they? : )

I am surprised how much the legs can still be manipulated. I plan to
next put on the long stretchers at the top, and then manipulate (maybe
using some rope), until I am satisfied, and then measure and cut and
install the other strechers.

The weather is interfering now, so I am going to try my hand at fixing a
leaky faucet next.

Bill

[Joe >]

>Those square holes on the ends of the deck
screws are supposed to rest parallel with the ground, aren't they? : )

Yes. Tests show up to 10% loss in holding power if oriented differently
in horizontal installations.
It has to do with magnetic equilibrium, and if not parallel, they can
actually unscrew themselves trying to equalize. Statiscally, an
equal number should try to screw themselves in tighter, but why
take the chance?
If you look carefully, some brands have some curvature approaching
the socket. This is to counteract variations in flux from the Earth's
curvature. In a vertical installation, the shank taper takes care of it.
Seems to have little effect, but the argument rages on.

>I am surprised how much the legs can still be manipulated. I plan to
next put on the long stretchers at the top, and then manipulate (maybe
using some rope), until I am satisfied, and then measure and cut and
install the other strechers.

Mine was also wobbly on the dry fit, but rock solid when I tightened
everything up.

I'd be happy to post some jpgs after I finish the trim glue-up tomorrow
as long as you promise not to whine about yEnc. They would be in
the binaries group.

--J

[Bill]

Bill wrote:

> The weather is interfering now, so I am going to try my hand at fixing a
> leaky faucet next.
>
> Bill

Replacing the little spring and its rubber cover residing under the
cylinder on the one side of my bathroom faucet, as well as an O-ring
on the cylinder for good measure, fixed my dripping problem. It only
took two trips to Lowes. Fortunately they they had person that was
knowledgeable on the subject on my second visit. +1 for Lowes.

Unfortunately, I stripped the hex set-screw (1/16") for the handle as I
was snugging it up. So, I've replaced my problem with one having a
lower priority.

EZ-out to help with that, huh? I've heard of them.

[Mike Marlow]

>
> I'd be happy to post some jpgs after I finish the trim glue-up
> tomorrow as long as you promise not to whine about yEnc. They would
> be in
> the binaries group.
>

Well hell Joe - just don't encode it - problem solved.

--

-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net

[Steve Turner]

On 5/31/2012 10:07 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>> I'd be happy to post some jpgs after I finish the trim glue-up
>> tomorrow as long as you promise not to whine about yEnc. They would
>> be in
>> the binaries group.
>>
>
> Well hell Joe - just don't encode it - problem solved.

He either does not know HOW to leave it unencoded, or he refuses. He already
had about twenty people tell him that they weren't going to bother looking at
any yEnc encoded images, but instead of bowing to the wishes of the
overwhelming majority he just acted like a stubborn jackass. A trend which
continues I see.

--
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(From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago)
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[Bill]

Joe <Joe@Joe'sPlace.com wrote:

> I'd be happy to post some jpgs after I finish the trim glue-up tomorrow
> as long as you promise not to whine about yEnc. They would be in
> the binaries group.
>
> --J

I don't know what yEnc is, but please make a post here if you post some
pics!

Bill

[Bill]

Joe <Joe@Joe'sPlace.com wrote:
> >Those square holes on the ends of the deck
> screws are supposed to rest parallel with the ground, aren't they? : )
>
> Yes. Tests show up to 10% loss in holding power if oriented differently
> in horizontal installations.
> It has to do with magnetic equilibrium, and if not parallel, they can
> actually unscrew themselves trying to equalize. Statiscally, an
> equal number should try to screw themselves in tighter, but why
> take the chance?
> If you look carefully, some brands have some curvature approaching
> the socket. This is to counteract variations in flux from the Earth's
> curvature. In a vertical installation, the shank taper takes care of it.
> Seems to have little effect, but the argument rages on.

Is Joe a mechanical engineer or something like that?

[Larry Jaques]

Naw, he's a chef, in'e? Owner of Joe's Morgue, Bar, and Grill.
"You stab 'em, we slab 'em. You kill 'em, we grill 'em."

--
In reality, serendipity accounts for one percent of the blessings
we receive in life, work and love. The other 99 percent is due to
our efforts.
-- Peter McWilliams

[Joe >]

It's the program default to yEnc files because it conserves
bandwidth.
It is not a separate process.
I haven't yet been able to find if it even can be bypassed.
I guess I could change the extensions to txt but my guess
is that most having problems with this don't know what
extensions are or could find the dot to be able to change
them back.
It's really funny how there's such a furor over this, when
the post is explicitly directed to one person.
Oh, well.
Once upon a time, some were upset when roads were
paved because of the unknown effect on their horses
and buggies. Today we wonder how there was any
transit accomplished at all with the slowness from muddy
ruts. Change is.

For anyone that doesn't have a clue what yEnc is, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YEnc.
You can <think> of it this way-
Every character sent is represented by a number.
If you only sent capital letters and numbers in English,
you'd need 26+10=36 (A-Z,+0-9) numbers, plus a
few for punctuation and carriage return / line feed.
Add lower case - that's 26 more.
Add basic block graphics,, or fancier graphics, or color,
that's more and more numbers.
Or, you could have the code for A, plus a code for
lower case, plus a code for red, and when your
computer saw these 3 in a row, it converted them into
one character.
Is it more efficient to send one number or three, and to
have the computer convert three to one or to display
them directly?
The file sent is the same - a jpg is a jpg. The difference is
the number of character used to do it.
End of lesson. For more, go to Google.com.

I've got glue to do before it hits 100 outside.
Then I'll see what I can I do on the postings.
Cheers to all.
--J

> I'd be happy to post some jpgs after I finish the trim glue-up
> tomorrow as long as you promise not to whine about yEnc. They would
> be in
> the binaries group.
>

Well hell Joe - just don't encode it - problem solved.

--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net

[Swingman]

On 6/1/2012 6:12 AM, Joe <Joe@Joe'sPlace.com wrote:
> It's the program default to yEnc files because it conserves
> bandwidth.
> It is not a separate process.
> I haven't yet been able to find if it even can be bypassed.
> I guess I could change the extensions to txt but my guess
> is that most having problems with this don't know what
> extensions are or could find the dot to be able to change
> them back.
> It's really funny how there's such a furor over this, when
> the post is explicitly directed to one person.
> Oh, well.
> Once upon a time, some were upset when roads were
> paved because of the unknown effect on their horses
> and buggies. Today we wonder how there was any
> transit accomplished at all with the slowness from muddy
> ruts. Change is.

You could not be more misguided on the issue. yEnc, and UseNet itself,
is instead equivalent to your "horse and buggy" in the 21st century.

Years ago yEnc was cobbled together for those who were into "file
sharing" when a binary UseNet newsgroup was one of the few ways to do
so. Those who do most of file sharing in this day and age have moved on
to "bit torrent", and most of those have never heard of UseNet, or yEnc.

IOW, it is an little used scheme in today's networked world of email and
bit torrent clients, AAMOF it is even non-standard technology in that it
does NOT even comply with the RFC 977/3977 for NNTP, and is, and always
has been IME, error prone to boot.

If you're going to use it, expect most not to see your yEnc encoded
content, not because you're somehow on the cutting edge, as you imply,
but because you insist on using what is arguably a horse and buggy
technology in the 21st century.

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[Dave]

On 01 Jun 2012 11:12:57 GMT, Joe <Joe@Joe'sPlace.com <invalid>> wrote:
>It's the program default to yEnc files because it conserves
>bandwidth. It is not a separate process.

Yes, it damn well is.

>I haven't yet been able to find if it even can be bypassed.

Most programs can change the default including the Agent version that
I use.

>It's really funny how there's such a furor over this, when
>the post is explicitly directed to one person. Oh, well.

Then email that person privately. This is a group of people, all of
them with different needs and wants. It's only common sense to make
information available to the widest audience.

[tiredofspam]

Probably not, probably someone who just decided to DO IT
instead of talk about it.