Uniform stain for Pine wood

[carol dufour]

I'm presently working on a laminated Pine table top that I would like to
stain but cannot get the stain to be even colored. The wood sealer and wood
conditionner did not give good results. The wood was properly sanded and
prepared but still end up with dark and light laminated boards that do not
match. Is there anyhing I can use before the stain in order to unify the
color of the stain?
Thanks,

[Al]

You need to use a wood conditioner with pine to get a even finish.

Al

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[CW]

Didn't read the post, did you?

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[Al]

Well yeah I did, I found you had to use one for pine. Maybe its the type
of pine or the type of conditioner that he is having troubles with I don't
know.

Al

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On Wed, 10 May 2006 21:26:44 -0400, "carol dufour" <

>. Is there anyhing I can use before the stain in order to unify the
>color of the stain?
>Thanks,
>
>

I've been using clear Minwax oil first on spruce/pine - let "dry" for
a day or so. This seems to even out the different absorbtion rates
in the wood. Then the colored oil or gel stain. Several coats if I
want a darker look.

Or if the piece looks good with the clear oil, that's all it gets.

Pete

[JGS]

Hi Carol,
Conditioner at it's best will reduce or prevent blotching ( uneven staining on
a given area of a given board). It will not make two adjacent boards take
stain the same way. If you want to do that you have to "tone" ( a form of
painting) the pieces. Generally this is done by first putting on a clear coat
and then applying the stain over the clear coat. Spraying is the normal way of
applying the stain. Cheers, JG

[RayV]

Newbie suggestion/question:

Would a water based stain give better results?

[Pat Barber]

You are stuck with a few choices:

(1) Finish with a spray can of "toner" to even things up.
(2) Gel stain will do a similar but not as good a job as
option 1.
(3) Burn the table top and start again.

Toner acts like a "painted" finish and will cover the
entire project with a very fine mist of color if done
correctly.

You can buy toners here: http://www.woodfinishsupply.com/BehlenAerosol2.html

and many other places that sell finishing materials.

You can also learn to mix your own and spray it
yourself.

[Pat Barber]

No... and it will raise the grain.

She needs to use a "toner"....

[gadgetman]

Gel stains work fine on most. The problem with pine is uneven
absorption. So, sanding can be important. Sand to 220. Shellac is a
wonderful conditioner, glue size works as well. It cases the
absorption of stain to be even. Always test over and over before doing
the whole thing. I never found the water based conditioners very good.
You should raise the grain with water if using water based finish
otherwise try sealing with 1/2# cut shellac. You can use orange
shellac dilluted if you want the orange color otherwise blond or other
nearly clear shellac. Shellac flakes last the best. Then stain, then
finish. You can dry brush as well which is taking a nearly dry brush
and brushing over a blotchy area trying to blend with a non blotchy
area, and even out color. Sometimes works great.
MB R

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"carol dufour" <carol...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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What color are you trying to stain it?

Dave

[carol dufour]

Hi,
Thank you for your responses.
The color of the gel stain is Cherry. After many attempts, I finally found a
way with the conditionner which gave more acceptable results.
Thank you all,

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