What is it? Set 409

[Rob H.]

Back to the usual schedule this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

[Markem]

On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 05:13:38 -0400, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com>
wrote:

>Back to the usual schedule this week:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob

1365 is a sonic remote control for a TV

[Lloyd E. Sponenburgh]

"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> fired this volley in
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2365 is a television remote (probably Zenith) that used tuning forks for
the transmitting elements.

2369 is what they call in these parts "A SAHREEN" It's fer lettin' y'know
the FAR INJUN is comin'. It runs offn' one-a the TARS.

Lloyd

[Stormin Mormon]

2365 looks like the TV remote I saw, at some friends house
in the late 1970s.
2366, no clue. Might be something to heat up, and seal wax
envelopes?
2377, free weight from a body buildng shop.
2378, totally no clue.
2379, totally no clue
2380, again, totally no clue.

You've got some very fine mind benders, there.

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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

[RicodJour]

2365 Early TV remote control
2366 The mass of steel at the end would suggest it was meant to
retain heat. I'm guessing it was used to flatten out a strip of
something - leather or fabric. So it's a hand-held belt iron.
2367 Train wheel
2368 The cap on the ball chain is throwing me. Not sure why there'd
be a need to cover a three jaw chuck.
2369 How big is it?
2370 Hedge clipper


R

[Mark F]

On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 05:13:38 -0400, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com>
wrote:

> Back to the usual schedule this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Set 409
2365: remote control for TV. 1950s or 1960s. Sonic
(in other words, not light or radio)


>
>
> Rob

[Steve W.]

2365 - Got the TV that goes with it ??? (it's an antique sonic remote
control AKA clicker)

2366 - Looks similar to a pleating iron.

2367 - Foundry cart wheel?

2368 -

2369 - Old mechanical siren?

2370 - Expandable serving tray?

[Scott Lurndal]

"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> writes:
>Back to the usual schedule this week:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>

2365 An old "Clicker" television remote.
2367 Looks like a rail car wheel.
2368 For pop rivets?

[Rob H.]

> 2369 is what they call in these parts "A SAHREEN" It's fer lettin' y'know
> the FAR INJUN is comin'. It runs offn' one-a the TARS.

You're right about it being a siren, though I'm not sure if it's belt driven
or runs off of a tire as you say.

[Rob H.]

> 2367 Train wheel

Correct

> 2369 How big is it?

I forgot to add that to the post, it's 6" diameter

> 2370 Hedge clipper

Nailed it

[Rob H.]

> 2366: Soldering iron for making some type of specific butt or lap
> joint.

No one has answered correctly on this tool yet, it would have been used in
construction or repair of a specific part of a house or other building, or
used on something commonly seen in a house

> 2368: Some type of crimping tool...possibly for shell casings and
> bullets.

Yes, it's a crimper but not for shell casings and bullets

[Larry]

"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote in
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Before I look at the other guesses I actually have an idea about
a few of these...

2365-TV remote with volume up/down and channel up/down

2366-looks like something used for heating the glue stip when
bonding carpet edges together

2367-wheel from a railroad car

2368-rivet gun

2369-looks like it could be from some type of braking mechanism

2370-no idea

[DoN. Nichols]

On 2011-10-06, Rob H. <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:
> Back to the usual schedule this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2365) And old acoustic (ultrasonic) remote control for a TV.

Instead of the pulses of IR LEDs of modern ones. Each button
generates a different tone, which is recognized by the TV
receiver.

It probably drove small dogs and bats nuts. :-)

2366) One end appears to be for smoothing some substance -- perhaps
printer's ink, perhaps something else.

The other end is a screwdriver -- probably for maintaining
whatever it is used with (again. likely a printing press).

2367) Looks like a flanged wheel for either a railroad train or a
rail-based streetcar. At 34", I suspect that it could be
either.

It does not look like the normal mounting to the axle, however.
Perhaps something to make it serve as a decorative table.

2368) Looks like a tool for installing pop-rivets -- but missing the
cap which the head presses against while the jaws grip and pull
the pop shank.

2369) Various possibilities come to mind.

a) A siren -- with air flowing in through the holes around
the rubber pulley shown in the first shot, and exiting
through the radial holes chopped on and off as a rotor
turns inside the housing.

b) Perhaps some kind of centrifugal pump.

The spring loaded arm looks intended to absorb lots of
torque -- which could occur when starting the siren, or
when pumping liquid against a head.

2370) Now -- if there were pointers at the ends, or holes through the
rivets in the side opposite the handles, I would think that it
was something like a rivet layout fan for equally spacing rivets
in aircraft skin work.

But since it does not match those features, and from the wear
marks on the blades, it looks more like something to trim grass
to a fixed height by opening and closing it over the grass.

Now to post this and see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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[willshak]

Mark F wrote the following:

My ex-FIL had one of these for a Zenith back in the early 70s. You had
to aim the remote precisely at the receiver on the TV for it to work.
I don't know how it worked, but in the late afternoon, the Sun streamed
through the window onto the front of the TV. When that happened, the
remote did not work.

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[Lloyd E. Sponenburgh]

willshak <will...@00hvc.rr.com> fired this volley in
news:S8WdnSJYWZ71ZRPT...@supernews.com:

> My ex-FIL had one of these for a Zenith back in the early 70s. You had
> to aim the remote precisely at the receiver on the TV for it to work.
> I don't know how it worked, but in the late afternoon, the Sun streamed
> through the window onto the front of the TV. When that happened, the
> remote did not work.
>

That's odd! The "clicker" version of "Space Command" controls comprised
a set of spring-loaded hammers striking tuned metal rods (like tuning
forks).

The TV had a set of LC tuned circuits to discriminate the different
frequencies, and move the "clunker" motor or the volume control, or the
on/off switch. That Zenith set was the first one I remember that, like
modern electronics, was never really "off"; they just turned off the non-
essential supplies, but kept the tuning fork "listener" on all the time.

Of course, without PLL circuitry for the vertical and horizontal sweep
circuits, you still had to get up and down a lot to "tune", unless you
had strong, clean signals without multipath interference.

Early "bang-bang" RC model airplane radios used essentially the same
method, but generated the tones electronically, rather than banging on
metal rods <G>.


LLoyd


LLoyd

[Dave__67]

2367- I have no idea why a Griffin chilled wheel manufactured 3 years
after the companies founding is significant...

http://www.amstedrail.com/About/History.aspx

Perhaps the date is significant and it is a commemorative wheel? Oct
27 1880 is the day Teddy Roosevelt got married...

Dave

[Dave__67]

Oh and 2368, not sure all the possible descriptions match with the
fact it releases when squeezed.


Dave

[Rob H.]

>2367- I have no idea why a Griffin chilled wheel manufactured 3 years
>after the companies founding is significant...

>http://www.amstedrail.com/About/History.aspx

>Perhaps the date is significant and it is a commemorative wheel? Oct
>27 1880 is the day Teddy Roosevelt got married...

This train wheel wasn't significant but was on display as an example of
early Chicago industry.

Just posted the answers for this set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/10/set-409.html#answers


Rob

[Rob H.]

>Oh and 2368, not sure all the possible descriptions match with the
>fact it releases when squeezed.

Hard to tell from the pictures but compressing the handles makes the end
close for crimping.

[Rich Grise]

While checking out the answers, I looked at last week's and hey, I
got one!

Set 408, #2364 - I guessed either "power handcuffs" or "instant handcuffs;"
(don't remember exactly - I'd have to check the archive, but I'm too lazy)
but I feel kinda vindicated. ;-D

Cheers!
Rich

[DoN. Nichols]

On 2011-10-07, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> willshak <will...@00hvc.rr.com> fired this volley in
> news:S8WdnSJYWZ71ZRPT...@supernews.com:
>
>> My ex-FIL had one of these for a Zenith back in the early 70s. You had
>> to aim the remote precisely at the receiver on the TV for it to work.
>> I don't know how it worked, but in the late afternoon, the Sun streamed
>> through the window onto the front of the TV. When that happened, the
>> remote did not work.
>>
>
> That's odd! The "clicker" version of "Space Command" controls comprised
> a set of spring-loaded hammers striking tuned metal rods (like tuning
> forks).

I agree. Unless there was an IR version back then -- or even a
visible red LED version. Visible red ones apparently started in 1962,
so it is possible -- and they might have used the same case for both
styles of clickers.

And the IR ones in 1961 -- all according to Wikipedia.

Or -- it is possible that the afternoon sun heated the circuits
up enough to switch the frequencies which they responded to, so they
could not "hear" the tones.

> The TV had a set of LC tuned circuits to discriminate the different
> frequencies, and move the "clunker" motor or the volume control, or the
> on/off switch. That Zenith set was the first one I remember that, like
> modern electronics, was never really "off"; they just turned off the non-
> essential supplies, but kept the tuning fork "listener" on all the time.

Hmm ... and Zenith was the actual TV which Heathkit provided in
kit form IIRC.

> Of course, without PLL circuitry for the vertical and horizontal sweep
> circuits, you still had to get up and down a lot to "tune", unless you
> had strong, clean signals without multipath interference.
>
> Early "bang-bang" RC model airplane radios used essentially the same
> method, but generated the tones electronically, rather than banging on
> metal rods <G>.

Since the RC airplane was typically too far away for an acoustic
remote to work anyway. :-)

[DoN. Nichols]

On 2011-10-07, Rob H. <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:

[ ... ]

> Just posted the answers for this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/10/set-409.html#answers

Hmm ... for (2368) -- if it was to crimp onto cloth insulated
wires (and likely copper foil wound around a cloth center core as well
for flexibility) that makes it a rather old one. I remember them on
headphones at least in the 1950s.

[Gerald Miller]

On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:02:36 -0400, willshak <will...@00hvc.rr.com>
wrote:

>Mark F wrote the following:
>> On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 05:13:38 -0400, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Back to the usual schedule this week:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>> Set 409
>> 2365: remote control for TV. 1950s or 1960s. Sonic
>> (in other words, not light or radio)
>>
>
>
>My ex-FIL had one of these for a Zenith back in the early 70s. You had
>to aim the remote precisely at the receiver on the TV for it to work.
>I don't know how it worked, but in the late afternoon, the Sun streamed
>through the window onto the front of the TV. When that happened, the
>remote did not work.

My favorite trick at that time was to walk into the room shaking my
ring of keys.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

Or drop change on a bar while the football game was on. ...but don't expect
to be served after.

[Stormin Mormon]

One email friend programmed his PDA to put out infared,
cloning TV remotes. He had a lot of fun walking into TV
stores, and changing thier channels.

A clandenstine PDA in a bar during football might get one
pounded, or pitched out.

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[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:33:32 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:

>One email friend programmed his PDA to put out infared,
>cloning TV remotes. He had a lot of fun walking into TV
>stores, and changing thier channels.
>
>A clandenstine PDA in a bar during football might get one
>pounded, or pitched out.

Particularly in this part of the country.