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Cordless Drill Torque Ratings?

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A. Shore

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:32:32 PM11/19/09
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Folks, I'm thinking of using subject drill in an unusual application,
turning a sailboat winch to hoist about 40 lbs; occasional use, not a
steady workload - and a right-angle drill.

I've read where the 28-V Milwaukee will do this, but that's an
investment I ain't prepared to make, and I'm looking at Ryobi 18V and
Craftsman 19.2V My concern is torque capacity.

The Ryobi spec says 130 inch-lb minimum, but I haven't seen anything
on the Craftsman. Anyone here have a manual, or spec, or some
experience with this admittedly oddball usage? Thanks, all.

Lew Hodgett

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Nov 19, 2009, 2:53:04 PM11/19/09
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"A. Shore" wrote:

Save your pennies.

When your piggy bank is full, get the Milwaukee right angle drill.

BTW, you will also need a S/S square stock adapter to fit the winch.

Lew

A. Shore

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:11:53 PM11/19/09
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Re " ... S/S square stock adapter... ": yep, the Cranker is on
order.

I assume no info re subject question?

AS

Lew Hodgett

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:21:04 PM11/19/09
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"A. Shore" wrote:

> I assume no info re subject question?

I learned stay from Ryobi and Craftsman.

Screw me once, shame on you.

Screw me twice, shame on me.

Lew

Chris Friesen

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Nov 20, 2009, 1:16:09 AM11/20/09
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How much torque do you actually need? The Milwaukee is rated for 1081
in-lb, or about 8x as much as the Ryobi. That's a significant
difference. Most of the other name-brand tools (Makita, etc.) max out
at around 600 in-lb or so.

Chris

Lew Hodgett

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Nov 20, 2009, 1:37:50 AM11/20/09
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"Chris Friesen" wrote:

> How much torque do you actually need?

Enough to trim a #1 Genoa sheet in 30 knots of wind when you are up to
your ass in alligators and 4-6 footers are running on 200 ft centers.

This is a classic sailor problem.

The wind is free and sailors expect everything else should be to.

BTDT, don't need the t-shirt.

Lew

J. Clarke

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:36:24 AM11/20/09
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I'm curious--if you are strong enough to resist the torque of the drill, why
can't you just use a winch handle and do it the old fashioned way? And the
winch handle doesn't get upset about being doused with salt spray.


Leon

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:50:59 AM11/20/09
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"J. Clarke" <jclarke...@cox.net> wrote in message
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I imagine it would get tiring after a while, especiallly if you are
constantly adjusting.


J. Clarke

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:24:41 AM11/20/09
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So get a longer handle.

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Leon

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Nov 20, 2009, 9:45:34 AM11/20/09
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"J. Clarke" <jclarke...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> So get a longer handle.

Longer handle would decrease needed force but increase range of motion.


A. Shore

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Nov 20, 2009, 10:16:02 AM11/20/09
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Guys, tnx for the interest. Some A's fr yr Q's:

This is for a possible assist in raising the main. I'd gotten a new
one, and it's a fair bit heavier as a result of heavier cloth, full
battens, metal slides, etc.

WRT how much torque I need for this, I wish I had a solid number. The
sail itself is maybe 60-70 lbs before applying the winch gearing. My
guess is that it's maybe 20 pounds (friction included) on a 12"
handle, so 240 in-lbs? (Sail is off the boat at the moment, so it's
guesswork right now.) I'll try it with a corded drill as a test when
the cranker adapter arrives.

The winch is cabin-top under a dodger, so handle swing is somewhat
restricted. I can relocate that a few inches, but wd prefer not to.

News (to me anyway): I stumbled across Sears Craftsman Pro series,
and I see a new(ish?) 20V drill with about a 500 in-lbs torque spec.
At $80 for the drill and $40 for the battery/charger, this looks like
good news for me. It reviews (YMMV) as a good bit superior to the
19.2V one it seems to replace, which has gone on sale.

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AS

J. Clarke

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Nov 20, 2009, 10:12:18 AM11/20/09
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If you're just _adjusting_ the sheets there shouldn't be that much motion
needed.

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Larry Jaques

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Nov 20, 2009, 10:47:29 AM11/20/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:21:04 -0800, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
<sails...@verizon.net> scrawled the following:

I was reading some tales of battery woes and Milwaukee came near the
top. Caveat emptor.

--
When we are planning for posterity,
we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.
-- Thomas Paine

Larry Jaques

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Nov 20, 2009, 10:54:17 AM11/20/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:37:50 -0800, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
<sails...@verizon.net> scrawled the following:

>"Chris Friesen" wrote:


>
>> How much torque do you actually need?
>
>Enough to trim a #1 Genoa sheet in 30 knots of wind when you are up to
>your ass in alligators and 4-6 footers are running on 200 ft centers.

How well will a salt- or fresh-water-soaked tool run under those
conditions, Lew? Isn't a fold-away crank handle the safest bet?


>This is a classic sailor problem.
>
>The wind is free and sailors expect everything else should be to.
>
>BTDT, don't need the t-shirt.

Yeah, it'd just get drenched.

A. Shore

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Nov 20, 2009, 11:06:38 AM11/20/09
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It sometimes is mistakenly called the Black Watch, but it's a 1970
Tartan 37, design by Ted Hood. Not the S&S T37 - it looks like a
larger T34.

~~~~_/)~~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~~~_/)~~~~ AS
>
> What boat?

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Larry Jaques

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:05:24 PM11/20/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:50:59 -0600, the infamous "Leon"
<lcb1...@swbell.dotnet> scrawled the following:

But that's part of sailing, and keeping sails in trim manually keeps
sailors in trim.

Truth, Justice, and the Neanderthal Way!

Lew Hodgett

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:08:03 PM11/20/09
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote:

> That boat has a masthead rig with a relatively small mainsail. I
> think
> your real problem is friction, not weight. Personally, I would
> forget
> the electric winch and install a Tides Marine Strong Track system. I
> put one on my boat and it now feels as if the sail is not actually
> attached to the mast. On your boat, the strong track would mean you
> would raise the sail almost completely without using a winch at all.
> We aren't exactly young, but my 110 pound wife can fully hoist our
> main by hand. The winch is used just for the final tensioning. The
> other nice thing about the Strong Track is that when you want to
> lower
> the sail, it drops like a rock.
>
> It's about $25 a foot installed. Worth every penny.

Sounds like a winner.

Had planned to use Tides on my project.

Glad to see I was on the right track.

Lew

A. Shore

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Nov 20, 2009, 9:02:46 PM11/20/09
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Yep, I have the Strong system installed. (It replaced the world's
oldest Hood Mainfurl.) But 60 lbs is 60lbs.

Awwwww, believe me that I need the winch. Yep, it drops right now;
that's not the problem. But thanks. ~ AS

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