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Rob H.

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:18:42 AM11/19/09
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Since next Thursday is Thanksgiving holiday, I'm planning to post on
Wednesday instead, here is this week's set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

LDosser

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Nov 19, 2009, 5:09:41 AM11/19/09
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1782 looks like an adjustable tubing cutter with the pointy end for reaming
the ID.

Steve R.

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Nov 19, 2009, 5:11:06 AM11/19/09
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1780 : I think this held a lighted cigarette. With the lid closed, smoke
came out of the mouth. could be wrong, but I saw one used like that when I
was a kid in the 1940s.


Steve R.


LDosser

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Cigar with the lit end in the body?

Leon

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:15:23 AM11/19/09
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1777. Early prototype Ouiji Board pointer.

1778. Adjustable HD bench dog.

1779. Incense Burner

1780. Alligator

1781. Long universal joint.

1782. Tubing cutter with reamer.


RicodJour

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:35:31 AM11/19/09
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1777. Probably used over a heat source for cooking. The supporting
arm was adjustable to allow proper balancing for support of whatever
was being rotisserie'd.
1778. A bearing with replaceable parts.
1779. A really cool cigar cutter for a smoking club.
1780. There was one in the house, as decoration, when I was a kid. No
idea as to it's utility.
1781. Something to do with stopping/opening up a pipe.

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sawdust

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:51:55 AM11/19/09
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1777: Used to support a cooking pot over an open fire
or fireplace.

1778: Looks like a big bench dog.

1779: A trap. Something small can get in, but not out.

1780: Ashtray of some sort. I recall that my parents
once had one like this.

1781: An old plumber's snake.

1782: Tubing cutter

John

Ted Schuerzinger

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:50:15 AM11/19/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:18:42 -0500, Rob H. wrote:

> Subject: What is it? Set 311

Not having looked at any other answers, the only one I can hazard a
guess on is

1779: Ye Olde Better Mousetrap

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beecrofter

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:15:17 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 4:18 am, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmail.com> wrote:

When I was a kid the cast iron alligator had kitchen matches in it.

Alexander Thesoso

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:48:37 AM11/19/09
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1780 For all the people saying match-holder, probably right. For all the
people saying alligator, I'd argue: Salamander.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamander_%28legendary_creature%29
There are a variety of (largely fireproof) things that go by the title
"salamander". I know, just a quibble.

1781 At first I thought it might be something like a plumber's snake, or
some type of pipe cleaner/reamer, but... All the joints seem to be aligned
so that it only is flexible in one dimension. This confused me. What is
the use for a snake that is constrained to be planar?

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Steve W.

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:13:06 PM11/19/09
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1777 - Well it looks a lot like the lead pot holder I use a
reenactments. Not sure if that was it's original use but it works good.
Pot goes on the rack and a long handled ladle goes on the stand.

1778 - Journal box bearing?

1779 - Push action trimmer?

1780 - Incense burner?

1781 - Burner tube scraper?

1782 - Home built tubing cutter. At least I don't ever remember seeing
one that style on sale.


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Robin Halligan

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:49:56 PM11/19/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:48:37 -0500, Alexander Thesoso wrote:

> 1780 For all the people saying match-holder, probably right. For all the
> people saying alligator, I'd argue: Salamander.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamander_%28legendary_creature%29
> There are a variety of (largely fireproof) things that go by the title
> "salamander". I know, just a quibble.
>
> 1781 At first I thought it might be something like a plumber's snake, or
> some type of pipe cleaner/reamer, but... All the joints seem to be aligned
> so that it only is flexible in one dimension. This confused me. What is
> the use for a snake that is constrained to be planar?

I'm thinking more a children's toy with a cloth tube over the body and a
head of some sort stuck on the flat end, kids wouldn't worry that it only
"wriggled" 1 way.



> "Rob H." <rhv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Since next Thursday is Thanksgiving holiday, I'm planning to post on
>> Wednesday instead, here is this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob

Robin

Jim Stewart

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:50:20 PM11/19/09
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1777 I'm gonna guess branding iron holder

1778 Some kind of linear bearing, maybe for a roundhouse turntable

1781 Cannon or field piece swab rod

Rob H.

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:24:01 PM11/19/09
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> 1779. A really cool cigar cutter for a smoking club.


Correct, this is a cigar cutter that was patented in 1877.


Rob

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:03:59 PM11/19/09
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I believe 1777 would be a holder for a bedwarmer used to keep the warm
end off the floor

Andrew Erickson

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:46:28 PM11/19/09
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In article <he32c...@news1.newsguy.com>, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Since next Thursday is Thanksgiving holiday, I'm planning to post on
> Wednesday instead, here is this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Let's see now...

1777 - I know I've seen this from somewhere...but beyond that, my memory
fails for now. Possibly this is a glassblowing apparatus, with the
forked stand to support the blowpipe (or whatever it's called)?

1778 - No real idea; the best thing that comes to mind is a (counter)
weight for some piece of machinery, presumably adjustable by attaching
it to different locations on a lever arm. Possibly, this was used on a
steam locomotive safety blow-off valve?

1779 - Shear for cutting off cordage?

1780 - An alligator bin for...pens, perhaps?

1781 - Cleaner for piping, maybe for gutter downspouts or similar?

1782 - Looks to be a tubing cutter, not unlike what is commonly used in
plumbing. The triangular attachment at the tip is presumably to remove
the burr created by the cutting wheel while cutting the tubing. Most
I've seen have a couple of small (non-sharpened) rollers instead of the
V grooved projection, which I presume would make most I've seen a bit
smoother operating than this one.

Now to see other suggestions...

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DoN. Nichols

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:16:17 PM11/19/09
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Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

1777) It looks to me like a stand for heating a branding iron
either over a fire under the grate there, or in a pot
of coals supported on the frame where the circle is.

1778) At a guess, it is designed for aligning holes in two
pieces of metal, with the bronze part being for driving
it in.

Note the nice rounded bevel on the small end to make it easier
to start.

It could also be a high-current contact point, if the "brass or
bronze" were actually pure copper.

1779) If the flap in the center is steel, I think that it is designed
for cutting something placed in whichever hole is a good fit.

If it were leather instead, I would think that it was a part of
a foot operated air pump, but that would not explain the
beveling of the holes to produce a sharp edge, and the fact that
each hole is a reasonable percentage larger (or smaller
depending on your direction) than the previous one.

Exactly *what* it is to cut is not clear, but I suspect that it
is operated by stepping on the top. Or, given the size, perhaps
by squeezing it in a vise.

1780) I suspect that this is an incense burner. It would be burned
in the lower jaw, and extra incense would be stored in the body,
perhaps along with matches to light the next stick.

1781) This looks to me like a folding flue cleaner -- perhaps for
the flues in a locomotive boiler or the like. it is unfolded,
and threaded through the flue small end first, and then pulled
so the large end scrapes of carbon deposits and the like as it
is drawn through.

1782) A tubing or pipe cutter. The tubing is placed in the 'V', and
the hex handle adjusted to tighten the sharp cutter wheel
against the side, after which it is rotated around the tube
once, the handle tightened, and rotated again until the tubing
parts.

The "arrowhead" is then used to debur the inside edges of the
two halves.

Usually, the tubing is supported by a pair of rollers instead of
the 'V' of brass or bronze.

And the fact that the handle is hex suggests that it can be
tightened by a wrench, so it can be used on tougher materials
than the smaller ones can -- perhaps steel pipe up to 1-1/2"
diameter or so.

Now to see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Larry

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1778 looks like some kind of bushing driver that would be used
in a press. Perhaps used for piston pins.

1780 Incense burner

1782 Unusual looking pipe cutter w/burr remover

DanG

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:26:32 AM11/20/09
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As usual, I feel woefully ignorant each Thursday morning - thank
you very much Rob.

1777. Looks like it would sure help with a fireplace model of a
pop corn popper.
1782. I don't think it is for copper pipe, but I do wonder if it
was used for glass tube or steel brake line.

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Rob H.

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:22:51 PM11/20/09
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>When I was a kid the cast iron alligator had kitchen matches in it.


Yes, that's exactly what it's for.

Five of the six have been answered correctly this week although I'm still
not sure about the second item, the answers can be seen here:

http://answers311n.blogspot.com/


Rob

charlie b

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:03:53 AM11/22/09
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1782 - copper/aluminum pipe cutter with reamer on the end
1781 - early Roto-Rooter?
1779 - cigar cutter?
1778 - Drop forge stamping punch with changeable diameter
screw on heads?
1777 - possible for melting lead for plumbing - with holder for
the ladle?
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