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clayf...@gmail.com

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Jun 18, 2008, 3:58:45 PM6/18/08
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from: Clay Feeter, Standup surf & sail Journal


Re: The 4 a.m. thoughts about our June issue now hitting subscribers,
shops and major North American bookstores.

Subject: our direction, and how your input helps, huge!


Hi and thanks to all on Rec. and to those who have emailed me
directly
with comments and critique; all of which is helping drive year #16 of
"Wind Tracks" in its new form: Standup surf & sail Journal.


After John Severson, Drew Kampion was my editor when I worked for
Wind
Surf mag in the early 80s, and then he was my editor after I started
Wind Tracks.
-the first thing Drew said when he saw our first issue of
Standup Journal was, "why 'volume 16'?" Drew felt this March issue --
after I'd been outta the publishing scene for 7 years -- should be
volume #1.


But this first issue -- and all the rest! -- is truly the extension
of
Wind Tracks... and we left off with Wind Tracks at vol. 15 #4, so
vol.
16 made sense to me.


IT'S A NEW DAY, A NEW ERA FOR WINDSURFING
I have taken my core "old crew" Wind Tracks bros' and your's and
everybody's ideas about the Journal's direction to heart. Though most
have told me the mix of windsurfing and standup paddling works for
them, I know there are a few of you who want to see JUST windsurfing.


If I were not personally so jacked on standup paddling and how well
it
blends with windsurfing (and also how perfectly it mixes with sailing
sups and long boards!) then I guess my focus would be more on just
windsurfing.


But it's a new era.


That brings me to the headline of this thread: "Next issue update:"


We call the June issue the Photo Annual, but I have to tell you that
EVERY issue is a "photo annual."


My strong feeling is that in this day and age (the internet) there
is still ONE thing the websites/blogs/forums cannot deliver:
-high quality images; a "gallery treatment" of works from
top photographers... and the truth is that the hardworking windsurf
and watersports photographers today are pressed almost out of
business
because of the internet.


So, this -- Standup surf & sail Journal -- is THEIR canvas: The
Photographers; 90% of my editorial budget per issue is dedicated to
the imagemakers.


That said, this issue (June) addresses some of your concerns about
including standup paddling into the mix.
-I just did a quick count of images in next issue. There are
something like 120 photos; 54 are windsurfing, 44 are standup
paddling.


-I promised Dana Miller -- one of our kitchen cabinet
members
and deep thinker on our journal's direction -- that I would follow
his
admonition: "They (other windsurf mags) don't exist."


In other words, "When you pick a photo or a story, don't do it based
on the other mags," and you are right Dana! Photo and story selection
has to come from the heart, from the artistic integrity of an image
from the behind-the-booms feel of what that story or shot does for
you; how it effects you.


So, in following Dana's advice I will only refer to another mag to
bring to light what we offer to THE WINDSURFER:
I counted, in a recent windsurf mag, 12 editorial photos
of actual windsurfing I would consider "pretty good," and a couple/
three of those are redhot! This is in a mag that has more than 100
pages.


So, at that pace let's say that mag has 50 or so pretty good windsurf
shots in a year and maybe 12 redhot windsurf photos.


I just did a rough count so please do not hold me to the exact number
but our June issue has 54 pretty incredible windsurfing images.. in
just one edition! I will let you decide just how hot these images
are.
-I whittled them down from 850 semi final images from
the
top shooters in the biz.


See ya on the water,
-Clay


Clay Feeter
Publisher, Standup surf & sail Journal
PO Box 360 (UPS/FedEx: 16 Ridge Rd.)
Center Barnstead, NH, USA 03225
(603) 209-4343; ClayFee...@aol.com
mag side info: www.StandupJournal.com

Cris

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Jun 23, 2008, 5:06:57 PM6/23/08
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Clay,

The 2nd issue of the mag was good. I'd prefer to lessen the amount of
SUP stuff, but that may just be me. Also, in this issue, it seemed
the SUP stuff and windsurfing stuff were very segragated. Thinking
about it now, I think the first issue was slightly more successful
because windsurfing and SUP seemed integrated a little bit better.

Overall the pictures were great.

FYI, I think rec.windsurfing is pretty dead. I think if you want more
of a response, I would head over to iwindsurf.com and post on those
forums - there's more activity and less OT spam (but plenty of
flaming).

Alan White

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Jun 24, 2008, 7:51:56 AM6/24/08
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"Cris" <cpav...@cal.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
news:22ae1387-956c-4932...@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> Clay,

> FYI, I think rec.windsurfing is pretty dead. I think if you want more
> of a response, I would head over to iwindsurf.com and post on those
> forums - there's more activity and less OT spam (but plenty of
> flaming).
>

It has died off some, but I think there are a lot of lurkers out there. So
many of our topics have been exhausted and a search through archives finds a
lot of information on just about any question. Anyway, it's a pretty place
to stay in touch.

FWIW, I subscribe to Windsurfing Magazine, New England J, Windsports, and
Clay's magazine. There's no fear of competing with each other regarding my
subscription. Clay, you don't even need to count the images between each
magazine. You kind of contradicted yourself when you agreed with Dana that
what other mags do is irrelevant to what you do, and then you count the
windsurfing images. Just do your thing. Josh is a good guy too.:-)

Alan


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Alan White

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Jun 24, 2008, 7:58:57 AM6/24/08
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I meant 'pretty GOOD place to stay in touch' <g>

jmcv...@yahoo.com

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Jun 24, 2008, 10:54:43 AM6/24/08
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Yeah maybe not so pretty.
Jeff

On Jun 24, 4:58 am, "Alan White" <alannc44~nosp...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:


> I meant 'pretty GOOD place to stay in touch' <g>
>
> Alan
>

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Cliff Frost

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Jun 24, 2008, 1:15:15 PM6/24/08
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foo, it's gorgeous. ;-)
Cliff

jmcv...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Yeah maybe not so pretty.
> Jeff

> On Jun 24, 4:58?am, "Alan White" <alannc44~nosp...@ix.netcom.com>

jmcv...@yahoo.com

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Jun 24, 2008, 2:35:47 PM6/24/08
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>> Cliff wrote:
> foo, it's gorgeous.  ;-)
> Cliff

I was referring to Alan saying rec. was a pretty place to stay in
touch. Not the magazine.
Stand up Journal is beautiful.
I'm sure a lot of the SUP only guys are disappointed in the amount of
windsurf content but I like it. I do both.
J

Andy

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Jun 24, 2008, 6:13:51 PM6/24/08
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Just got my copy- stoked! Personally, I love seeing all the different
sports blended together. Makes it more of a waterman's journal, which
I truly appreciate. There's already plenty of sport specific
publications. But to blend them turns it into an all encompassing
waterman's lifestyle publication, rather than another sports
magazine. Some of the happiest, most content people I know... well...
they do it all. They surf, they SUP, they sail, they kite, they fish,
they hike, they ski, etc etc. This is their, and my, mag. Finally.
Please don't change a thing, unless you're planning on expanding your
editorial content even broader.

I know you're getting a lot of pressure to go all stand up. Going
sport specific only fuels an invisible fire, adding to the "my way or
the highway" mentality that drags the stoke down. It happened in ski/
board, sail/kite, and SUP/surf already... Let's bring 'em all
together and show the potential joy of the all encompassing lifestyle,
rather than distinguishing one from another.

One last note- the opening piece concerning backcountry skiing/ocean
charging and their risks hit home like no other, as I've got roots in
the mountains that reach way deeper than I can duck dive...

wee...@aol.com

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Jun 25, 2008, 10:09:24 PM6/25/08
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Here's a very informative SUP site for anyone interested:
http://www.standupzone.com/

Mac

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Jun 26, 2008, 7:01:42 AM6/26/08
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Well said Andy. I was initially against the change from Windsurf
Journal to Standup Surf & Sail Journal....I felt like I got the bait &
switch....but since I now do both windsurfing & SUP'ing and just
enjoying being around the water...at the lake or ocean, I've been
happy with the mag....I say keep the combo too. It is a lifestyle. The
pics are awesome and I would also enjoy a little more editorial stuff.

And I also agree with Alan....I think each mag has something for
everyone and I enjoy them all. Josh is doing a great job with
Windsurfing Mag and I'm enjoying his cross country Road Trip blog.

Stoked, Mac

On Jun 24, 6:13 pm, Andy <hodad.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

John I

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Jul 1, 2008, 8:39:00 AM7/1/08
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I sail for my own kicks, Aerotech and Exocet, and US WSMag. There is
a ton of inertia in developing and marketing the surf oriented
mindset. Not much in exploring the best blended stuff. Exocet, Bic,
and RRD have blended boards for the 2 or more sports you want to
cover, Clay. Two have duck tails, Bic has so much tail rocker and
release as to remind of my Konas. The versatility of these 3 brands'
offerings seems to be downplayed. Any chance you could help educate
the benefits of more well rounded designs? The duck tail long boards
are good at doing the slog thing, but excel at that middle planing
wind range as well. I've got quite the clutter of toys and other stuff
already, so do a lot of other folks. Having a multi-purpose board do
well in both your sports may be good to acknowledge.

Glad to have SUP become more mainstream. It will be good to see more
folks willing to strap their toys to their car tops again. The height
of windsurfing numbers happened during the 80's and 90's with long
boards. Let's hope we can move some of the more open minded surfers
to try windsurfing.

Chuck

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Jul 2, 2008, 5:42:26 AM7/2/08
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Clay,

A windsurfing friend from Brussels recently loaned me his copy of
the Stand Up Surf and Sail Journal. I was really impressed with the
outstanding photography and particulary liked the representation of
both windsurfing and stand up paddle boarding as complimentary sports
to each other. Just couldn't quit looking at the photos and dreaming
of being out on the water.
I hope you keep the journal as a balanced tribute to both great
sports and dedicated to enhancing enthusisam and cross over
participation in both. Also, would like to see more on efforts to
market the windsurfing capabilities of the SUP to entice more of the
non- windsurfing SUP riders to experience the fun and versatility of
sailing their SUP boards as well.

Can hardly wait to see the next issue.

Chuck

Belgium

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